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On September 06 2011 11:34 bumatlarge wrote:
I'll /in then!
Like Ace is gonna let you play, you scrub!
Is this a no-flip game btw?
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On September 07 2011 09:12 Curu wrote:
Hi where is everyone?
##Vote Palmar
Very suspicious vote. Keep an eye on this guy.
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On September 07 2011 09:33 chaos13 wrote:
How about you scummy bastards calm down and wait for day to start.
FOS for discouraging discussion
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On September 07 2011 10:00 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 09:58 GGQ wrote:On September 07 2011 09:33 chaos13 wrote:
How about you scummy bastards calm down and wait for day to start. FOS for discouraging discussion herro fellow AoE player
hihi, you read my profile? Dutch 4lyf
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On September 07 2011 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 10:05 GGQ wrote:On September 07 2011 10:00 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 07 2011 09:58 GGQ wrote:On September 07 2011 09:33 chaos13 wrote:
How about you scummy bastards calm down and wait for day to start. FOS for discouraging discussion herro fellow AoE player hihi, you read my profile? Dutch 4lyf DUDE I love Dutch. I played Dutch a lot. Although for my first 4-6 months in vanilla I was really good at Russians (back when Germans+Spanish dominated everything)
For serious AoE3 hipster cred, you have to remember the days that French were unstoppable (20% more effective workers lololol)
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On September 07 2011 11:29 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 11:12 GGQ wrote:On September 07 2011 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 07 2011 10:05 GGQ wrote:On September 07 2011 10:00 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 07 2011 09:58 GGQ wrote:On September 07 2011 09:33 chaos13 wrote:
How about you scummy bastards calm down and wait for day to start. FOS for discouraging discussion herro fellow AoE player hihi, you read my profile? Dutch 4lyf DUDE I love Dutch. I played Dutch a lot. Although for my first 4-6 months in vanilla I was really good at Russians (back when Germans+Spanish dominated everything) For serious AoE3 hipster cred, you have to remember the days that French were unstoppable (20% more effective workers lololol) wat I started AoE3 5 months after it was released and I don't remember this
Yeah it was the first couple months after release, a ludicrous imbalance that really shouldn't have made it to release.
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On September 07 2011 11:40 bumatlarge wrote:
Let's talk about irrelevant things in ace's game! This set-up is weird is completely closed so I'm gonna throw it out there that I think everyone has some sort of ability.
Given that we have 4/16 mafia, I imagine that you're probably right.
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On September 07 2011 13:15 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2011 13:04 GGQ wrote:On September 07 2011 11:40 bumatlarge wrote:
Let's talk about irrelevant things in ace's game! This set-up is weird is completely closed so I'm gonna throw it out there that I think everyone has some sort of ability. Given that we have 4/16 mafia, I imagine that you're probably right. Oh boy let's rolefish some more. ##vote:ggq
Hm, if you think that's rolefishing, why vote for me and not bum, who brought it up first?
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On September 08 2011 01:21 xtfftc wrote:
Because JeeJee is covering for his mafia teammate Bum, just like Sinani. The last one is Curu.. His willingness to jump on the bandwagon of people voting for people who have voted for someone else revealed him.
If you are being serious, please explain your reasoning more in-depth. What makes you think bum is mafia? If JeeJee and bum are mafia, why would JeeJee draw attention to bum like that? Why would Curu bandwagon so blatantly?
If you are not being serious, please start.
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On September 08 2011 02:23 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 01:12 GGQ wrote:On September 07 2011 13:15 JeeJee wrote:On September 07 2011 13:04 GGQ wrote:On September 07 2011 11:40 bumatlarge wrote:
Let's talk about irrelevant things in ace's game! This set-up is weird is completely closed so I'm gonna throw it out there that I think everyone has some sort of ability. Given that we have 4/16 mafia, I imagine that you're probably right. Oh boy let's rolefish some more. ##vote:ggq Hm, if you think that's rolefishing, why vote for me and not bum, who brought it up first? why not?
I think it's pretty clear that when someone does something, 'why?' is a far more relevant question than 'why not?'
"why?" has one clear, defined answer that helps to clarify your action.
"why not?" has infinite hypothetical answers that just obscure it further.
So cut the crap. Why?
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On September 08 2011 06:27 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 06:06 JeeJee wrote:On September 08 2011 02:33 GGQ wrote:On September 08 2011 02:23 JeeJee wrote:On September 08 2011 01:12 GGQ wrote:On September 07 2011 13:15 JeeJee wrote:On September 07 2011 13:04 GGQ wrote:On September 07 2011 11:40 bumatlarge wrote:
Let's talk about irrelevant things in ace's game! This set-up is weird is completely closed so I'm gonna throw it out there that I think everyone has some sort of ability. Given that we have 4/16 mafia, I imagine that you're probably right. Oh boy let's rolefish some more. ##vote:ggq Hm, if you think that's rolefishing, why vote for me and not bum, who brought it up first? why not? I think it's pretty clear that when someone does something, 'why?' is a far more relevant question than 'why not?' "why?" has one clear, defined answer that helps to clarify your action. "why not?" has infinite hypothetical answers that just obscure it further. So cut the crap. Why? Calm down broski. It's very simple. When reacting to an accusation, townies tend to point out flaws with the accusation, since they know the accusation is wrong. Scum tend to try and shift the blame elsewhere, since they know the accusation is right. if my vote didn't count since it was before Ace's post (although after 13KST), I'll re-write it here again. ##vote:ggq Here you transformed "idle speculation" into "rolefishing". Bum: I think everyone has a role GGQ: 4 mafia; I agree JeeJee: rolefishing ? But then GGQ, instead of pointing this out, points a finger at me for something he initially agreed with. Congratulations! You found an "Inconsistency"! ##vote:ggq
I'm going to go over all this again, just so it's clear to everyone in this game.
1) bumatlarge speculates before the game starts that everyone has an ability, providing no reasoning
2) I agree and provide some reasoning. I still stand by this post and don't think that it's scummy
3) JeeJee accuses me (or both me and bum? he isnt clear) of rolefishing and votes for me.
4) I did not address his accusation of rolefishing. I think it's silly, because I think it's clear that I wasn't rolefishing and I'm unconcerned by this vote.
5) I ask JeeJee why he chose to vote and accuse me instead of bum, since that seems completely arbitrary to me. I want to know his reasoning; I want him to explain himself so that the town can better judge both me and him. I want things clearly spelled out in the thread.
6) JeeJee responds with "Why not?" I've already explained why this is a terrible answer. It doesn't help with clarifying anything, and it only leads to more confusion and obfuscation, which is distinctly anti-town.
7) JeeJee tells me to "calm down". Nothing in my post indicates that I'm not calm. He is trying to make it seem like I'm getting defensive/emotional when I don't believe that my post indicates anything like that; it's just cold reasoning.
8) JeeJee then says "It's very simple. etc" as though he's responding to my question of "Why?" He then gives his explanation that townies point out flaws in accusations while scum try to shift blame. a) First of all, this explanation has some truth but it's improperly applied. I was not trying to shift blame. I was not trying to FOS or divert suspicion to bumatlarge. In fact, I was doing exactly what he says townies do; I pointed out that the accusation was flawed because it was arbitrary and poorly explained (even though I gave him an opportunity to explain it).
b) Secondly, this is not an answer to my question of "why?" His explanation is basically that my question of "why" is the answer to itself; the answer to "why did you vote for me instead of bum" is because I asked that question. Clearly this is circular reasoning. JeeJee, you still haven't answered why you voted/accused me instead of bum.
9) then bum jumps on the bandwagon against me based on the incorrect assumption that I was pointing fingers at him. Curious how bum and JeeJee are interacting here...
To sum up, JeeJee and bum have been misinterpreting and misrepresenting me. This is something that is done either by scum trying to lead a mislynch or by townies who fail at reading comprehension. Which one are you guys?
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On September 08 2011 07:18 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 07:01 Curu wrote:
I'm still wondering why 9 votes to lynch means we shouldn't be voting anyone yet.
You have a lot of "people misrepresented and twisted words, they're scum" in your posts but you're doing the exact same thing. GGQ did not point any finger at you, he was asking JeeJee why he chose to vote GGQ instead of you. I'm not going to waste energy explaining why votes in the first 2 minutes aren't helpful, you can achieve the same amount of pressure just talking about someone. GGQ could have pointed out that what he was doing was not rolefishing. Instead he gave an excuse about how he shouldn't be the focus. He had no intention of standing behind what he said if it brought focus on him, and in that JeeJee is completely justified in voting for him. And I've already stated that I disagree with JeeJee voting ggq early, because it was a vote based on nothing, an early vote with no reasoning behind it, which we shouldn't be doing. Now it's a solid vote and I will join him. Nothing was twisted in GGQ's post. He could have stood behind what he said, but now he's making it perfect obvious that there will be legitimate reasons for voting him.
At what point did you think I was backing off of what I said? Did you think that from reading my post? Or from reading JeeJee's post?
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On September 08 2011 02:59 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 00:56 sandroba wrote:On September 07 2011 13:25 iGrok wrote:Lets do this With a smurf in the game, I have nothing to base your actions off of. I want you to contribute a lot, so that I can get a good read off of you. Until then, you make me uncomfortable. ##Vote Bayonet Anderson Yo iGrok, if you are going to start a RVS why do you go out of your way to make it neat and make it seem justifiable? You ought to know that's no valid reason to vote, why make it seem so? I consider that a valid reason to vote. With no setup knowledge other than my own role, I'm a little on edge anyways.
iGrok, your second post here exhibits the same behavior that sandroba called you out for in your first post. sandroba points out that you are going out of your way to justify yourself in your first post. You are doing the same thing here again, by saying that you are "on edge" and explaining why. Why are you trying to justify yourself so much? Are you nervous?
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On September 08 2011 09:10 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 07:32 GGQ wrote:On September 08 2011 06:27 bumatlarge wrote:On September 08 2011 06:06 JeeJee wrote:On September 08 2011 02:33 GGQ wrote:On September 08 2011 02:23 JeeJee wrote:On September 08 2011 01:12 GGQ wrote:On September 07 2011 13:15 JeeJee wrote:On September 07 2011 13:04 GGQ wrote:On September 07 2011 11:40 bumatlarge wrote:
Let's talk about irrelevant things in ace's game! This set-up is weird is completely closed so I'm gonna throw it out there that I think everyone has some sort of ability. Given that we have 4/16 mafia, I imagine that you're probably right. Oh boy let's rolefish some more. ##vote:ggq Hm, if you think that's rolefishing, why vote for me and not bum, who brought it up first? why not? I think it's pretty clear that when someone does something, 'why?' is a far more relevant question than 'why not?' "why?" has one clear, defined answer that helps to clarify your action. "why not?" has infinite hypothetical answers that just obscure it further. So cut the crap. Why? Calm down broski. It's very simple. When reacting to an accusation, townies tend to point out flaws with the accusation, since they know the accusation is wrong. Scum tend to try and shift the blame elsewhere, since they know the accusation is right. if my vote didn't count since it was before Ace's post (although after 13KST), I'll re-write it here again. ##vote:ggq Here you transformed "idle speculation" into "rolefishing". Bum: I think everyone has a role GGQ: 4 mafia; I agree JeeJee: rolefishing ? But then GGQ, instead of pointing this out, points a finger at me for something he initially agreed with. Congratulations! You found an "Inconsistency"! ##vote:ggq I'm going to go over all this again, just so it's clear to everyone in this game. 1) bumatlarge speculates before the game starts that everyone has an ability, providing no reasoning 2) I agree and provide some reasoning. I still stand by this post and don't think that it's scummy 3) JeeJee accuses me (or both me and bum? he isnt clear) of rolefishing and votes for me. 4) I did not address his accusation of rolefishing. I think it's silly, because I think it's clear that I wasn't rolefishing and I'm unconcerned by this vote. 5) I ask JeeJee why he chose to vote and accuse me instead of bum, since that seems completely arbitrary to me. I want to know his reasoning; I want him to explain himself so that the town can better judge both me and him. I want things clearly spelled out in the thread. 6) JeeJee responds with "Why not?" I've already explained why this is a terrible answer. It doesn't help with clarifying anything, and it only leads to more confusion and obfuscation, which is distinctly anti-town. 7) JeeJee tells me to "calm down". Nothing in my post indicates that I'm not calm. He is trying to make it seem like I'm getting defensive/emotional when I don't believe that my post indicates anything like that; it's just cold reasoning. 8) JeeJee then says "It's very simple. etc" as though he's responding to my question of "Why?" He then gives his explanation that townies point out flaws in accusations while scum try to shift blame. a) First of all, this explanation has some truth but it's improperly applied. I was not trying to shift blame. I was not trying to FOS or divert suspicion to bumatlarge. In fact, I was doing exactly what he says townies do; I pointed out that the accusation was flawed because it was arbitrary and poorly explained (even though I gave him an opportunity to explain it). b) Secondly, this is not an answer to my question of "why?" His explanation is basically that my question of "why" is the answer to itself; the answer to "why did you vote for me instead of bum" is because I asked that question. Clearly this is circular reasoning. JeeJee, you still haven't answered why you voted/accused me instead of bum. 9) then bum jumps on the bandwagon against me based on the incorrect assumption that I was pointing fingers at him. Curious how bum and JeeJee are interacting here... To sum up, JeeJee and bum have been misinterpreting and misrepresenting me. This is something that is done either by scum trying to lead a mislynch or by townies who fail at reading comprehension. Which one are you guys? This is a big heaping dose of OMGUS. Your entire argument is based on the fact that JeeJee has accused you and apparently misunderstood some of your behavior. You end it with a noncommittal statement and don't even bother voting for someone you just accused of being scum. Oh wait, you accused bum as well by association. You're looking like a good first lynch right about now.
>>calls my post OMGUS
>>points out that I end noncommittal and don't vote for JeeJee
>>?!?!?!
When did I accuse him of being scum? I gave him two options, and frankly I think it's more likely that JeeJee is misguided towny than mafia atm. My post wasn't an accusation, but an outline of misunderstandings, logic fails, and suspicious behavior. You'll notice that he's not the only one I've responded to. I'll point out problematic posts when I see them, whether the poster has voted for me or not. Call it OMGUS if you want.
Also, you painted it as suspicious that I didn't vote for JeeJee after "accusing" him. And then you called me scum, even encouraged a lynch on me, then didn't vote for me. Wuddup wit dat?
If this is the kind of logic and analysis we are going to have all game, then gg we lose.
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On September 08 2011 09:04 xtfftc wrote:I'm not suspicious of Bumatlarge anymore. He knows he said nothing wrong, pointed it out and closed the case against him. And I doubt it that GGQ is crumbling under the "pressure" applied to him; it's looks much more like flexing muscles to me. He's putting himself out there quite a lot without any actual pressure on him. JeeJee though. His analysis of the 'cut the crap' bit. GGQ is so obviously trying to look like a "no screwing around" type of player and talking like this is part of his tough image. Yet JeeJee is trying to twist this into being emotional and crumbling under pressure. Fake, pompous - yes. But GGQ was acting like this before the accusation. He used the same tone to reply to me when he didn't have to defend himself because I accused JeeJee and Bumatlarge. I find it suspicious that a good player such as JeeJee doesn't notice such things, especially when there was less than one page to analyse. Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 08:04 sandroba wrote:
xfttfc whose behaviour day1 is 100% different than mafia xliv. If by that you mean that I'm not showing any signs of protecting mafia as a medic this game, then yes, my behaviour is 100% different. I am wiser now, having played one game is better than having played no games at all.  On a serious note, the problem with your argument is that I got into trouble in XLIV precisely because of the very same behaviour: accusing four players in no time. The only thing you can read in this is that I'm a bad player but this is something we all know. Anyway, it is easy to be active if you're mafia at this point, which means that being quiet becomes just as easy. The sooner the arbitrary one-line accusations transition into something better structured, the better - and if it takes a cocky quasi-trollish post that annoys some townies, well, it's worth it anyway.
Calling my posting 'fake' is a pretty serious accusation, bro. What makes you think I'm being fake? Examples and explanation, please.
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On September 08 2011 07:48 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 07:32 GGQ wrote:On September 08 2011 06:27 bumatlarge wrote:On September 08 2011 06:06 JeeJee wrote:On September 08 2011 02:33 GGQ wrote:On September 08 2011 02:23 JeeJee wrote:On September 08 2011 01:12 GGQ wrote:On September 07 2011 13:15 JeeJee wrote:On September 07 2011 13:04 GGQ wrote:On September 07 2011 11:40 bumatlarge wrote:
Let's talk about irrelevant things in ace's game! This set-up is weird is completely closed so I'm gonna throw it out there that I think everyone has some sort of ability. Given that we have 4/16 mafia, I imagine that you're probably right. Oh boy let's rolefish some more. ##vote:ggq Hm, if you think that's rolefishing, why vote for me and not bum, who brought it up first? why not? I think it's pretty clear that when someone does something, 'why?' is a far more relevant question than 'why not?' "why?" has one clear, defined answer that helps to clarify your action. "why not?" has infinite hypothetical answers that just obscure it further. So cut the crap. Why? Calm down broski. It's very simple. When reacting to an accusation, townies tend to point out flaws with the accusation, since they know the accusation is wrong. Scum tend to try and shift the blame elsewhere, since they know the accusation is right. if my vote didn't count since it was before Ace's post (although after 13KST), I'll re-write it here again. ##vote:ggq Here you transformed "idle speculation" into "rolefishing". Bum: I think everyone has a role GGQ: 4 mafia; I agree JeeJee: rolefishing ? But then GGQ, instead of pointing this out, points a finger at me for something he initially agreed with. Congratulations! You found an "Inconsistency"! ##vote:ggq I'm going to go over all this again, just so it's clear to everyone in this game. 1) bumatlarge speculates before the game starts that everyone has an ability, providing no reasoning 2) I agree and provide some reasoning. I still stand by this post and don't think that it's scummy 3) JeeJee accuses me (or both me and bum? he isnt clear) of rolefishing and votes for me. 4) I did not address his accusation of rolefishing. I think it's silly, because I think it's clear that I wasn't rolefishing and I'm unconcerned by this vote. 5) I ask JeeJee why he chose to vote and accuse me instead of bum, since that seems completely arbitrary to me. I want to know his reasoning; I want him to explain himself so that the town can better judge both me and him. I want things clearly spelled out in the thread. 6) JeeJee responds with "Why not?" I've already explained why this is a terrible answer. It doesn't help with clarifying anything, and it only leads to more confusion and obfuscation, which is distinctly anti-town. 7) JeeJee tells me to "calm down". Nothing in my post indicates that I'm not calm. He is trying to make it seem like I'm getting defensive/emotional when I don't believe that my post indicates anything like that; it's just cold reasoning. 8) JeeJee then says "It's very simple. etc" as though he's responding to my question of "Why?" He then gives his explanation that townies point out flaws in accusations while scum try to shift blame. a) First of all, this explanation has some truth but it's improperly applied. I was not trying to shift blame. I was not trying to FOS or divert suspicion to bumatlarge. In fact, I was doing exactly what he says townies do; I pointed out that the accusation was flawed because it was arbitrary and poorly explained (even though I gave him an opportunity to explain it). b) Secondly, this is not an answer to my question of "why?" His explanation is basically that my question of "why" is the answer to itself; the answer to "why did you vote for me instead of bum" is because I asked that question. Clearly this is circular reasoning. JeeJee, you still haven't answered why you voted/accused me instead of bum. 9) then bum jumps on the bandwagon against me based on the incorrect assumption that I was pointing fingers at him. Curious how bum and JeeJee are interacting here... To sum up, JeeJee and bum have been misinterpreting and misrepresenting me. This is something that is done either by scum trying to lead a mislynch or by townies who fail at reading comprehension. Which one are you guys? Yeah, no. First, you're trying to shift blame yet again, except this time it's on me. Cute, but it ain't gonna fly. Second, you are getting emotional and defensive, hence the 'calm down'. I don't think calm people say 'cut the crap' -- it's people who get frustrated. And I think I know why you're frustrated. Second, no, your answer did not point out the flaw in my vote. Compare these two responses, both to the same accusation:
Hm, if you think that's rolefishing, why vote for me and not bum, who brought it up first?
I'm not role fishing, im simply stating that I think everyone has an ability. No one needs to counter claim that, but I half my fun in mafia is speculation. Don't think anyone should be voting anyone yet, we need 9 for a lynch, so silly accusations aren't gonna cut it 5 minutes into the game.
Which one of these is shifting the blame and which one of these is pointing out the problem with the accusation?Third, if you haven't figured it out, my vote on you obviously wasn't based on anything as it was the beginning of the game. Hence the 'why not'. As per your reaction though, I'm quite happy to have it remain where it is.
Neither of those is shifting the blame. My post wasn't shifting blame because there's no blame to shift. You accused me of something I wasn't doing. Where's the blame? I asked why me instead of bum because you clearly chose for a reason and I wanted to know what your logic was. You still haven't answered that btw.
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On September 08 2011 10:55 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 10:16 GGQ wrote:On September 08 2011 09:10 chaos13 wrote:On September 08 2011 07:32 GGQ wrote:On September 08 2011 06:27 bumatlarge wrote:On September 08 2011 06:06 JeeJee wrote:On September 08 2011 02:33 GGQ wrote:On September 08 2011 02:23 JeeJee wrote:On September 08 2011 01:12 GGQ wrote:On September 07 2011 13:15 JeeJee wrote:
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Oh boy let's rolefish some more.
##vote:ggq
Hm, if you think that's rolefishing, why vote for me and not bum, who brought it up first? why not? I think it's pretty clear that when someone does something, 'why?' is a far more relevant question than 'why not?' "why?" has one clear, defined answer that helps to clarify your action. "why not?" has infinite hypothetical answers that just obscure it further. So cut the crap. Why? Calm down broski. It's very simple. When reacting to an accusation, townies tend to point out flaws with the accusation, since they know the accusation is wrong. Scum tend to try and shift the blame elsewhere, since they know the accusation is right. if my vote didn't count since it was before Ace's post (although after 13KST), I'll re-write it here again. ##vote:ggq Here you transformed "idle speculation" into "rolefishing". Bum: I think everyone has a role GGQ: 4 mafia; I agree JeeJee: rolefishing ? But then GGQ, instead of pointing this out, points a finger at me for something he initially agreed with. Congratulations! You found an "Inconsistency"! ##vote:ggq I'm going to go over all this again, just so it's clear to everyone in this game. 1) bumatlarge speculates before the game starts that everyone has an ability, providing no reasoning 2) I agree and provide some reasoning. I still stand by this post and don't think that it's scummy 3) JeeJee accuses me (or both me and bum? he isnt clear) of rolefishing and votes for me. 4) I did not address his accusation of rolefishing. I think it's silly, because I think it's clear that I wasn't rolefishing and I'm unconcerned by this vote. 5) I ask JeeJee why he chose to vote and accuse me instead of bum, since that seems completely arbitrary to me. I want to know his reasoning; I want him to explain himself so that the town can better judge both me and him. I want things clearly spelled out in the thread. 6) JeeJee responds with "Why not?" I've already explained why this is a terrible answer. It doesn't help with clarifying anything, and it only leads to more confusion and obfuscation, which is distinctly anti-town. 7) JeeJee tells me to "calm down". Nothing in my post indicates that I'm not calm. He is trying to make it seem like I'm getting defensive/emotional when I don't believe that my post indicates anything like that; it's just cold reasoning. 8) JeeJee then says "It's very simple. etc" as though he's responding to my question of "Why?" He then gives his explanation that townies point out flaws in accusations while scum try to shift blame. a) First of all, this explanation has some truth but it's improperly applied. I was not trying to shift blame. I was not trying to FOS or divert suspicion to bumatlarge. In fact, I was doing exactly what he says townies do; I pointed out that the accusation was flawed because it was arbitrary and poorly explained (even though I gave him an opportunity to explain it). b) Secondly, this is not an answer to my question of "why?" His explanation is basically that my question of "why" is the answer to itself; the answer to "why did you vote for me instead of bum" is because I asked that question. Clearly this is circular reasoning. JeeJee, you still haven't answered why you voted/accused me instead of bum. 9) then bum jumps on the bandwagon against me based on the incorrect assumption that I was pointing fingers at him. Curious how bum and JeeJee are interacting here... To sum up, JeeJee and bum have been misinterpreting and misrepresenting me. This is something that is done either by scum trying to lead a mislynch or by townies who fail at reading comprehension. Which one are you guys? This is a big heaping dose of OMGUS. Your entire argument is based on the fact that JeeJee has accused you and apparently misunderstood some of your behavior. You end it with a noncommittal statement and don't even bother voting for someone you just accused of being scum. Oh wait, you accused bum as well by association. You're looking like a good first lynch right about now. >>calls my post OMGUS >>points out that I end noncommittal and don't vote for JeeJee >>?!?!?! When did I accuse him of being scum? I gave him two options, and frankly I think it's more likely that JeeJee is misguided towny than mafia atm. My post wasn't an accusation, but an outline of misunderstandings, logic fails, and suspicious behavior. You'll notice that he's not the only one I've responded to. I'll point out problematic posts when I see them, whether the poster has voted for me or not. Call it OMGUS if you want. Also, you painted it as suspicious that I didn't vote for JeeJee after "accusing" him. And then you called me scum, even encouraged a lynch on me, then didn't vote for me. Wuddup wit dat? If this is the kind of logic and analysis we are going to have all game, then gg we lose. That entire post is an attack on JeeJee, and none of it looks like you're calling him a bad townie. Not an accusation, but an outline of suspicious behavior? That's exactly what an accusation is.It wouldn't have been suspicious if it felt as if you were simply looking for more information, but it had the feel of an attack to it. None of what I said is calling you scum. Calling you suspicious? Hell yeah. Did I encourage anyone else to vote for you? No. They can make that decision themselves. There's no need for me to place my vote yet until we generate some more discussion. I'm simply warning you that if your play continues this way, I will vote for you before the day is over. Good positive attitude at the end there, I like that. If you don't think that what's going on is good, encourage something better. You can whine about it all you want, but if you don't do something to fix it you're just becoming part of the problem.
Incorrect, an accusation is when you accuse someone of being scum, which I never did. I'll call out suspicious behavior from many players in a game, but I'll only accuse a few of being scum. So no, pointing out suspicious behavior from someone is not an accusation. If scum were the only ones who exhibited suspicious behavior, mafia would be a much easier game.
You said I was looking like a good lynch. Not a good "vote", a good "lynch". You can't lynch by yourself, so yeah you were encouraging others to vote for me.
And yeah, I am doing something about it by pointing out fail logic in the hopes that people will think things through a little longer.
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On September 08 2011 12:12 JeeJee wrote:
This game is off to a wonderful day.
Bada-bapaba. I'm lovin' it.
In some ways yeah, but too many people are keeping quiet. Don't let us hog the spotlight, guys!
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