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##Vote: Jackal58 OMGUS | ||
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Same reason as palmar, also town should want more time to discuss right? | ||
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On August 25 2011 07:41 TheFerryman wrote:If you are going to lynch cyber I want someone who is going to take responsibility for the lynch, rather than have a bunch of people push a green lynch and then say "he was stupid anyway, its his fault" and no-one ends up being responsible. You want him lynched Navillus? Are you willing to own up to it if he flips green? Why is the case against him more convincing than the case against wiggles? Now this is a standard scum play, let town accuse someone then set it up for the accuser to get lynched if the accused flips town this is illogical the full argument that you would need to accept to make this make sense includes it being impossible for a townie to mislynch, or to be wrong, I think we can all agree that this is not the case and this argument simply leads to what are essentially revenge lynches. That said I think there are scummier people this game, namely Cyber_Cheese, it could be argued that he isn't scum just playing badly, I happen to think both are true, he's just supported too scummy things for me to let him go. He likes random lynching, is saying he's fine taking the lynch, (if he were actually fine with it that might be a town thing but in what I've read people saying that tend to be scum) he's jumped all over the place with his voting with very little reasoning, and overall I'm getting the sense from him that he's trying really hard to stay active, but is just throwing things out there without actually thinking about anything (see his random voting, the giant listing of fractions, and his joke) and in general this attempt to stay really active gives me a really guilty feel from him SO ##Vote Cyber_Cheese | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + That said I think there are scummier people this game, namely Cyber_Cheese, it could be argued that he isn't scum just playing badly, I happen to think both are true, he's just supported too scummy things for me to let him go. He likes random lynching, is saying he's fine taking the lynch, (if he were actually fine with it that might be a town thing but in what I've read people saying that tend to be scum) he's jumped all over the place with his voting with very little reasoning, and overall I'm getting the sense from him that he's trying really hard to stay active, but is just throwing things out there without actually thinking about anything (see his random voting, the giant listing of fractions, and his joke) and in general this attempt to stay really active gives me a really guilty feel from him SO | ||
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On August 25 2011 10:33 Forumite wrote: There were some changes, I don´t think extension is something we can vote to get, instead the day is extended by 24 hours if we don´t have a majority vote, which is currently at 7 votes on the same person at the deadline. Oh thought he did that and left the vote, in that case- ##Unvote Actually I was going to do that anyway because I do not believe that Cyber_Cheese is scum, just really bad town. First off as he pointed out he has been extremely active and in the spotlight, now I attacked this in a post and it's WIFOM if we go back and forth saying "town stays active b/c they're confident" "scum tries harder to appear town" so I want to say both possibilities are left open but in general I believe it is much more of a townie thing to stay really active, and I think if he's as noobish as he seems, which I believe he is, then he would have stayed much quieter as mafia. Now the obvious question is why then did I attack him and vote for him? I did so to try to gauge reactions, I actually thought there was more time left to do so but there isn't so I'm pulling it back early. But I wanted to give people the chance to defend him and no one did, this is what makes me not want to lynch him. There are only 3 scum this game, and while their KP is not dependent on any of them surviving it still would be terrible for the scum if they lost 1/3 of their team day1. So the facts that this bandwagon formed extremely easily and no one has stepped up to defend Cyber_Cheese (the one possible exception was Ferryman trying to hold me responsible for any lynch on Cyber, but their later conversation convinced me they're not scumbuddies) make me think he's town enough that we should at least take an extension rather than lynch him right now. | ||
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##Vote tnkted I'Il explain more later but for now basically it's between him and Wiggles and I really don't see a case against wiggles I feel like it's just a lot of tunneling by ferryman where he decided that scum/EH will do X wiggles happened to do X first and now ferry's going after him until he's dead, to be clear I don't think that the X that ferryman thinks is a scum/EH tell is one. | ||
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On August 26 2011 14:17 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I'd be fine with that. The only way it screws up is if EA visits him randomly, or if mafia shoot him. He should make up his own mind about who he wants to visit, though. Ahhh this did not help you in my eyes, are you or are you not ok with it not, "I'm fine with it but he shouldn't" so for one I think mafia kills show up differently, actually [green]will a suicide be announced as a suicide, different from a murder[green] If suicides are announced differently then the only screw-up would be EH guessing right night1 There is a 1/11 chance of EH guessing correctly night1 which means if we do agree to check you and the psych dies the only way it wouldn't mean that you're EH is that 1/11 chance, and honestly I would auto-vote you on 10-1 odds, my question is would you accept this including getting lynched if the psych commits suicide, or are you really that worried about that 1/11 chance? | ||
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EBWOP will a suicide be announced as a suicide, different from a murder | ||
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##Unvote tnkted ##Vote Mr. Wiggles | ||
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