EPTMy first Mafia game on TL but it seems like it's not much different.
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On August 19 2011 05:08 GreYMisT wrote: Im not sure that 6 for 1 trade was good for us. sure killing the demon is good, but throwing one of our mods into the depths of hell? Even dead trolls need moderation. R.I.P. | ||
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On August 19 2011 08:06 chaos13 wrote: Yes. Does that mean we should all lurk? No. If everybody discusses in a productive way, mafia will have trouble blending in and providing the same level of constructive input, and suddenly those extremely pro-town players don't become such high profile targets, because everyone is joining in to an equal degree. I agree, of course. If the whole population takes part in the democracy process, the people become too powerful to be messed with. But it often takes just one ordinary citizen to show signs of cowardice - and suddenly we see a snowball effect affecting the whole town. | ||
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On August 19 2011 08:38 Curu wrote: We already had a mess of a first day in Personality with everyone trying to roleplay. What point are you trying to get at xtfftc? I don't have anything to add really - as long as we're all active, all is good. I'd just bear in mind that people don't want to die, even in a game. | ||
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On August 19 2011 10:46 GreYMisT wrote: EBWOP please replace the second quote in the above post with the following. On August 19 2011 10:45 GreYMisT wrote: But in the below post he contradicts himself by saying that if 1 person doesn't post, we all lose. Snowball effect = one person deciding to do something and the others following. One person is not a problem unless the others follow suit. I apologise if the way I expressed myself was a bit hard to understand but by twisting my words all you do is make me suspicious. On August 19 2011 10:56 Navillus wrote: Well then, xtfftc, same questions, what are your thoughts on lurkers, lynching them, using town KP on them, and making a list? I already explained my position on lurkers and their effect on the game. Asking me to repeat myself is generating spam - and we all know who benefits from spam. As for lynching/using town KP on them is fine as long as we don't have better leads. Making a lurkers list is good as long as we don't set some arbitrary posting criteria. However, the active players appear to be unimpressed by your overzealousness and I don't think that they will allow your views on it to influence voting too much, so I'm fine with the idea. And something unrelated - it would help the game a lot if we start every name with a capital letter; it makes reading page after page much easier. So Xtfftc instead of xtfftc, etc. I don't expect everyone to start doing it but just consider it, please. | ||
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He obviously had something in mind and there's no way he wasn't aware of how his accusations would be perceived by the rest of us. However, his strategy hasn't benefited town by now. He has until the deadline to convince me to vote DropBear or BrownBear. If nothing meaningful comes out of the discussion initiated by him, I'd rather have one less player who throws arbitrary accusations around. I'd also like to point out that it shouldn't be that difficult to convince me to switch to DropBear, considering DropBear's behaviour. | ||
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Still, I'll stick to Palmar for now. | ||
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On August 20 2011 07:53 supersoft wrote: ah, okay I understand, you vote for palmar, not because you think he's scum, but because he didn't convince you to vote for DB. This is scumlogic. Town doesn't vote people for playing bad. Town votes for scum. Compared to DP, who proposed some really useless plans like this unnecessary mayorthing, your stuff seems more scummy to me. ##unvote ##vote: xtfftc What is it that you don't understand? Palmar has a very agressive opening strategy and, by the time of my vote, there was no better target. Am I convinced that Palmar is Mafia? Nope. He was just the best candidate for a lynch. There is more to my post though. I acknowledged the fact that Palmar is not just randmoly trolling but has an actual strategy. Some people don't agree with me+ Show Spoiler + On August 20 2011 11:17 Varpulis wrote: ##vote palmar filter his posts. Now tell me if a single one is productive and helpful. He blindly tunnels DropBear based on meta (i think, it's such a terrible accusation though that it's not worth trying to figure out), then calls everybody who disagrees with him scum. On August 20 2011 11:18 Varpulis wrote: by calling dropbear scum 20 times in a row? Also, On August 20 2011 09:57 Foolishness wrote: he just played two games as mafia recently: Personality and PTP2. Both games he attempted to be normal and blend in; there wasn't any of this odd posting. I don't think he would radically change his style like this if he was mafia again. On August 20 2011 11:25 Foolishness wrote: If Palmar is mafia he's on drugs. Or he is deliberately changing his strategy because he knows how much people here rely on the meta game. Seriously, is this all you do? We are supposed to be playing mind games here; not judge solely on what people did last time. On August 20 2011 22:38 supersoft wrote: Lucidity ghrur is now Barundar Jackal58 xtfftc hiro protagonist Erandorr darkponcho Vain chaoser GreYMisT nard Sevryn Pyo Kurumi DropBear these guys haven't voted yet. Since not all of you can possibly be scum, I encourage you to vote in the next 2-3 hours, so we can see who the maintargets are. It has been said many times before in this thread: A no lynch would be very bad. Please don't do any more lists. You voted for me as a response to my vote for Palmar - and then you put me on a list of people who haven't voted. I do believe that this is a honest mistake and you didn't try to manipulate anyone with it but it is sloppy nevertheless. I will answer to QuickSilver in a separate post because this one is long enough anyway. | ||
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On August 21 2011 02:31 Curu wrote: Hi xtffffffffffffc, what's your opinion on Sevyrn? If I don't answer QuickSilver, people will claim that I have nothing to say in my defense. If I don't analyse Sevyrn, I will be accused of not contributing. I will try to do both as there is enough time before the deadline but this is exactly what Mafia want us to do - discuss a number of targets instead of a single one. On August 21 2011 02:50 Foolishness wrote: You're right xtfftc, using past behavior to analyze someone says nothing about their role, and I'm merely posting that information as fluff so I can hide better as mafia. You got me bro No need to be defensive as I did not accuse you of being mafia - I merely pointed out that your arguments don't help us. | ||
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On August 21 2011 02:56 Curu wrote: wat I'm asking for your thoughts on Sevyrn. Surely you have some thoughts on Sevyrn just from reading the thread like a good diligent Townie would be doing. I don't want a carefully crafted opinion or analysis, I want to know what you think about Sevyrn right now. Mafia. The "pressure vote" thingie sounded too much like an attempt to be tough on mafia - and once he realised he screwed up he tried to disappear. On August 21 2011 02:57 supersoft wrote:xtfftc on the other hand confuses my "I-know-not-all-of-you-are-scum-so-please-vote-list" with my accuses on him. I admit, I overlooked him when I made that list. However that doesn't mean my accuse on the first place was a mistake. I didn't revenge-voted him for voting palmar. I don't care who votes palmar. I voted him for his reason to vote Palmar. I never said such a thing - I simply pointed out you were sloppy. | ||
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So I'm going to vote after Sevryn defends himself. Palmar, DropBear and BrownBear are a story that has to develop further. | ||
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On August 21 2011 03:35 wherebugsgo wrote: LOL Sevryn's running out of time. If he doesn't vote/defend himself, he gets modkilled, no? The question is whether he will get modkilled enough to allow us another lynch target. | ||
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On August 21 2011 03:37 wherebugsgo wrote: wtf? why are you afraid of voting now? Is it because others have labeled you as scum already? I expected supersoft to be superhappy about this but noone else. Sevryn is basically dead, one way or another. No mafia will be dumb enough to protect him anymore and the townies are aware that going after anyone else now would look suspicious. But in case Sevryn gets modkilled, we need to use the opportunity for two town kills. | ||
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On August 21 2011 03:54 Palmar wrote: he won't get modkilled if he's about to be lynched anyway, or well, that's the general way things are done. In this case, ##Vote: Sevryn Now, let's proceed with a discussion of what actually matters. My gut says supersoft and QuickSilver but my gut is biased and wants those who go after me dead ^^ Although Supersoft being so cautious when defending Sevryn and yet so aggressive against me and his earlier bandwagonning is something worth remembering. I want to hear more from DropBear and BlackBear. I do not find DropBear particularly suspicious but he still has to answer the questions raised. BlackBear is suspicious (going too agressively against inactive players, some random accusations) and, unlike DropBear, is a target we might get a majority for. Hiro, judging by the OP I think we have about 6 hours left. | ||
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On August 21 2011 05:13 Sevryn wrote: Yes you do lose something you lose a townie when i flip green and going after the people who most aggressively tried to get me lynched is all WIFOM. To be fair, I sort of agree with this. Kudos to Rayzor for pointing out supersoft's witchhunt but this statement was ridiculous. Mafia is unlikely to go so aggressively against a townie and by encouraging us to go after Sevryn's most vicious accusers in case he is innocent, he might secure another town lynch. Especially considering that Sevryn did get himself into a mess of his own... It's not like someone fabricated it all. So, in case Sevryn turns out to be a townie after the lynch, Rayzor is a good lead, and if Sevryn is indeed mafia, Rayzor is probably clean. Also, I am not convinced that Supersoft is mafia. In my opinion he is just too anxious to prove himself and is just all over the place. So, if Sevryn is a townie, I'd be inclined to believe in Supersoft's innocence. | ||
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