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If this starts after Werewolves then /in
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ill /in anyway because werewolves is looking pretty small as it is and this isn't filling up fast if it does start in the middle i'm not busy for the next couple weeks i think i can keep up.
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swedish mafia was over faster than i thought /in
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Right now DB is looking the scummiest imo and after what palmar did in Swedish house mafia I am inclined to trust him. That said if there is a good case against anyone else i would be willing to give DropBear another lookskie
## vote DropBear
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On August 20 2011 00:30 Curu wrote:
Naw
Thanks for drawing Sevyrn out though.
So Sevyrn, because Palmar was a Townie in a completely different game, you decide to trust him and sheep his vote blindly?
His play was basicly them same in that game so I'm inclined to belive him do you have a better target?
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I must be psychic because I saw that responce coming
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On August 20 2011 02:46 DropBear wrote:OK wtf Palmar? I actually don't understand. What is your problem with me exactly? Nearly all of your posts are one liners that are some variation of "Kill DropBear". Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 22:35 Palmar wrote:you guys are fucking lazy and boring. Why not just bandwagon everything I say? that's a good plan. Go read DB's first post in PTP2 where he was town. He's like 1000 trillion times more careful and vague in these opening posts than last time. Here's his PTP2 opening post for comparison: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10466682He's careful to just give advice that cannot possibly rub anyone the wrong way. SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM The "not safe" post you link included a joke about Harry Potter, a complete throwaway vote on kitaman27 and a joke about sandroba's plans. My first post in this thread advocated forcing people to change their vote, how is that so incredibly safe compared PTP2? I don't actually understand your case, I will talk to you more if you actually come up with something.
Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 18:14 supersoft wrote:On August 19 2011 18:00 Palmar wrote:
how about putting your vote on dropbear?
##Vote DropBear i just filtered him, and he just posted one policypost and no thoughts about other people. Why not pressuring him a bit. Can't be bad. ##Vote DropBearand before anyone jumps on me like: "wtf he bandwagoned blablabla" - like Curu did in AA; I am NOT one of the players, that bandwagons on anyone random with a bad explanation only to show up the next day like "hey guise sorry what happened, oh you lynched scum - yea well I had stuff to do." I will be there at the end of the day and put my vote on scum. My posts are 2 pages after the game started. 2 pages. Half the players hadn't even posted yet and most of the ones who did posted nothing other than "/confirm". How do you expect me to have reads on people before they have even posted, through divination? Time travel? What's with the random defence of your actions at the end? It's like you know it's a stupid idea, but you're doing it anyway.
Alright since I don't see anything scummy about dropbear at this point I'm going to take my pressure vote off of him. In swedish palmer asked me to put a pressure vote on someone who turned out to be scum. Because pressure votes don't work near as well if you say its a pressure vote I made up a bullshit reason to vote in that gmae like I did this game.
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On August 20 2011 03:15 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2011 03:06 Sevryn wrote:On August 20 2011 02:46 DropBear wrote:OK wtf Palmar? I actually don't understand. What is your problem with me exactly? Nearly all of your posts are one liners that are some variation of "Kill DropBear". On August 19 2011 22:35 Palmar wrote:you guys are fucking lazy and boring. Why not just bandwagon everything I say? that's a good plan. Go read DB's first post in PTP2 where he was town. He's like 1000 trillion times more careful and vague in these opening posts than last time. Here's his PTP2 opening post for comparison: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10466682He's careful to just give advice that cannot possibly rub anyone the wrong way. SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM The "not safe" post you link included a joke about Harry Potter, a complete throwaway vote on kitaman27 and a joke about sandroba's plans. My first post in this thread advocated forcing people to change their vote, how is that so incredibly safe compared PTP2? I don't actually understand your case, I will talk to you more if you actually come up with something.
On August 19 2011 18:14 supersoft wrote:On August 19 2011 18:00 Palmar wrote:
how about putting your vote on dropbear?
##Vote DropBear i just filtered him, and he just posted one policypost and no thoughts about other people. Why not pressuring him a bit. Can't be bad. [b]##Vote DropBe and before anyone jumps on me like: "wtf he bandwagoned blablabla" - like Curu did in AA; I am NOT one of the players, that bandwagons on anyone random with a bad explanation only to show up the next day like "hey guise sorry what happened, oh you lynched scum - yea well I had stuff to do." I will be there at the end of the day and put my vote on scum. My posts are 2 pages after the game started. 2 pages. Half the players hadn't even posted yet and most of the ones who did posted nothing other than "/confirm". How do you expect me to have reads on people before they have even posted, through divination? Time travel? What's with the random defence of your actions at the end? It's like you know it's a stupid idea, but you're doing it anyway. Did you or Alright since I don't see anything scummy about dropbear at this point I'm going to take my pressure vote off of him. In swedish palmer asked me to put a pressure vote on someone who turned out to be scum. Because pressure votes don't work near as well if you say its a pressure vote I made up a bullshit reason to vote in that gmae like I did this game. I might have missed something but what exactly makes you believe everything Palmar says in this new game?
Did you or varp read my post I said it was a pressure vote I don't need to believe palmar to pressure vote to try and find out if he is right...
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On August 20 2011 03:37 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2011 03:30 Sevryn wrote:On August 20 2011 03:15 Erandorr wrote:On August 20 2011 03:06 Sevryn wrote:On August 20 2011 02:46 DropBear wrote:OK wtf Palmar? I actually don't understand. What is your problem with me exactly? Nearly all of your posts are one liners that are some variation of "Kill DropBear". On August 19 2011 22:35 Palmar wrote:you guys are fucking lazy and boring. Why not just bandwagon everything I say? that's a good plan. Go read DB's first post in PTP2 where he was town. He's like 1000 trillion times more careful and vague in these opening posts than last time. Here's his PTP2 opening post for comparison: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10466682He's careful to just give advice that cannot possibly rub anyone the wrong way. SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM The "not safe" post you link included a joke about Harry Potter, a complete throwaway vote on kitaman27 and a joke about sandroba's plans. My first post in this thread advocated forcing people to change their vote, how is that so incredibly safe compared PTP2? I don't actually understand your case, I will talk to you more if you actually come up with something.
On August 19 2011 18:14 supersoft wrote:On August 19 2011 18:00 Palmar wrote:
how about putting your vote on dropbear?
##Vote DropBear i just filtered him, and he just posted one policypost and no thoughts about other people. Why not pressuring him a bit. Can't be bad. [b]##Vote DropBe and before anyone jumps on me like: "wtf he bandwagoned blablabla" - like Curu did in AA; I am NOT one of the players, that bandwagons on anyone random with a bad explanation only to show up the next day like "hey guise sorry what happened, oh you lynched scum - yea well I had stuff to do." I will be there at the end of the day and put my vote on scum. My posts are 2 pages after the game started. 2 pages. Half the players hadn't even posted yet and most of the ones who did posted nothing other than "/confirm". How do you expect me to have reads on people before they have even posted, through divination? Time travel? What's with the random defence of your actions at the end? It's like you know it's a stupid idea, but you're doing it anyway. Did you or Alright since I don't see anything scummy about dropbear at this point I'm going to take my pressure vote off of him. In swedish palmer asked me to put a pressure vote on someone who turned out to be scum. Because pressure votes don't work near as well if you say its a pressure vote I made up a bullshit reason to vote in that gmae like I did this game. I might have missed something but what exactly makes you believe everything Palmar says in this new game? Did you or varp read my post I said it was a pressure vote I don't need to believe palmar to pressure vote to try and find out if he is right... Pressure vote means acting like you're going to actually lynch someone to see how they react, not say "IM PRESSURE VOTING X OLOLOLOL"
That was my whole point I didn't say it was a pressure vote untill after he responded and I took my vote off because palmar has a shitty case and I didn't want people to lynch me because they thought I was just bandwagoning
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I have already stated why I made the posts that I did and my reasons for voting this will be my last defense post as I will be trying to do some analysis to help out you guys once i am lynched. so im going to go read the like 6-7 pages i missed and then i shall make another post with my vote.
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Rayzorflash im calling you out.
Most of his posts before I become the lynch target are speculation on what mafia would or would not want and i view this is as slightly scummy.
Then he ninja votes on me and when called out
On August 20 2011 01:40 RayzorFlash wrote:Your post seemed like obvious scum to me, the scummiest post so far, and I will most likely be away for the rest of the day so I put in a vote against you... I'll check back later and see if I have to change it, but I doubt if I will :p
and then this last post
On August 21 2011 04:55 RayzorFlash wrote:
Town right now loses NOTHING by lynching Sev. If he flips red, we immediately know who to go after next, i.e. the people defending him, or the people trying to get someone else lynched first. If he flips green, we can target the ones who have most aggressively tried to get him lynched. Its a win-win situation.
Yes you do lose something you lose a townie when i flip green and going after the people who most aggressively tried to get me lynched is all WIFOM.
Also MIG just from his meta he has normally caught the entire scum team by now yet hes nowhere to be found.
##vote RayzorFlash
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On August 21 2011 06:02 RayzorFlash wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 05:13 Sevryn wrote:Rayzorflash im calling you out. Most of his posts before I become the lynch target are speculation on what mafia would or would not want and i view this is as slightly scummy. Then he ninja votes on me and when called out On August 20 2011 01:40 RayzorFlash wrote:On August 20 2011 01:07 Sevryn wrote:
Nice stealth vote ray Your post seemed like obvious scum to me, the scummiest post so far, and I will most likely be away for the rest of the day so I put in a vote against you... I'll check back later and see if I have to change it, but I doubt if I will :p My stealth vote for you was what an actual pressure vote looks like. All of a sudden, the pressure on you made you get all defensive and even pull your vote off DropBear. I'd say it was quite successful in exposing scummy behavior. Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 05:13 Sevryn wrote:
Yes you do lose something you lose a townie when i flip green and going after the people who most aggressively tried to get me lynched is all WIFOM.
We lose a townie who has, for the entire first day contributed absolutely nothing towards discussion except a really scummy first accusation, and since then has just focused on defending himself? I don't think that's losing too much. (OOC: What does WIFOM mean??) Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 05:37 xtfftc wrote:
To be fair, I sort of agree with this. Kudos to Rayzor for pointing out supersoft's witchhunt but this statement was ridiculous. Mafia is unlikely to go so aggressively against a townie and by encouraging us to go after Sevryn's most vicious accusers in case he is innocent, he might secure another town lynch. Especially considering that Sevryn did get himself into a mess of his own... It's not like someone fabricated it all.
So, in case Sevryn turns out to be a townie after the lynch, Rayzor is a good lead, and if Sevryn is indeed mafia, Rayzor is probably clean.
Sure, I'll gladly take the fall if Sev proves to be green, but I don't think there was anything scummy at all about my post. I think it would be good leads to go after anyone aggressively pushing for Sev if he's green, and I know i'm included in that list :S.
Ah the age old argument of the guy who everyone is calling scum is defending himself "SUCH A SCUMMY MOVE"
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On August 21 2011 06:52 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 06:06 Sevryn wrote:On August 21 2011 06:02 RayzorFlash wrote:On August 21 2011 05:13 Sevryn wrote:Rayzorflash im calling you out. Most of his posts before I become the lynch target are speculation on what mafia would or would not want and i view this is as slightly scummy. Then he ninja votes on me and when called out On August 20 2011 01:40 RayzorFlash wrote:On August 20 2011 01:07 Sevryn wrote:
Nice stealth vote ray Your post seemed like obvious scum to me, the scummiest post so far, and I will most likely be away for the rest of the day so I put in a vote against you... I'll check back later and see if I have to change it, but I doubt if I will :p My stealth vote for you was what an actual pressure vote looks like. All of a sudden, the pressure on you made you get all defensive and even pull your vote off DropBear. I'd say it was quite successful in exposing scummy behavior. On August 21 2011 05:13 Sevryn wrote:
Yes you do lose something you lose a townie when i flip green and going after the people who most aggressively tried to get me lynched is all WIFOM.
We lose a townie who has, for the entire first day contributed absolutely nothing towards discussion except a really scummy first accusation, and since then has just focused on defending himself? I don't think that's losing too much. (OOC: What does WIFOM mean??) On August 21 2011 05:37 xtfftc wrote:
To be fair, I sort of agree with this. Kudos to Rayzor for pointing out supersoft's witchhunt but this statement was ridiculous. Mafia is unlikely to go so aggressively against a townie and by encouraging us to go after Sevryn's most vicious accusers in case he is innocent, he might secure another town lynch. Especially considering that Sevryn did get himself into a mess of his own... It's not like someone fabricated it all.
So, in case Sevryn turns out to be a townie after the lynch, Rayzor is a good lead, and if Sevryn is indeed mafia, Rayzor is probably clean.
Sure, I'll gladly take the fall if Sev proves to be green, but I don't think there was anything scummy at all about my post. I think it would be good leads to go after anyone aggressively pushing for Sev if he's green, and I know i'm included in that list :S. Ah the age old argument of the guy who everyone is calling scum is defending himself "SUCH A SCUMMY MOVE" Why don't you actually contribute something, then? Your posts and your activity makes sense from a mafia standpoint; for more than 24 hours you did absolutely nothing. Why didn't you contribute? If you had already defended yourself, why didn't you read posts and provide your opinion? Why were you lurking? Trust me, there's time; if you can provide some reasonable defense for yourself and actually suggest things that will help town without appearing scummy (like you have appeared for the entirety of the day) then clearly it's in our best interest to lynch someone else. So far you haven't done a very good job of that, which paints you as red to me. My vote stays on you as long as I believe you're mafia.
I went to work at 6pm yesterday and then went to bed and woke up at 4pm today. this is all est. I can't prove that i wasn't lurking but i wasn't since i can't prove it I decided not to explain why i wasnt here in my post seems kinda irrelevant.
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On August 21 2011 07:46 xtfftc wrote:
Would you pick a non-lynch instead of lynching Sevryn?
I would
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On August 21 2011 08:02 xtfftc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 07:54 DropBear wrote:On August 21 2011 07:46 xtfftc wrote:
Would you pick a non-lynch instead of lynching Sevryn? Are these directed at me or not? I can't tell To xtfftc, I'd rather lynch someone than noone. I would much rather kill hiro or chaoser over sevryn though. It was directed at Palmar's post but it is a question everyone has to think about, even if we don't discuss it openly. Is there a possibility to lynch anyone but Sevryn tonight? It doesn't matter who would you like to lynch tonight if it's impossible. If the answer is negative, it all comes down to lynching Sevryn or lynching no one.
you seem really against not lynching me
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Okay all of chaosers play is posting about lynching lurkers and then one post with a vote on mig based purely on agreeing with foolishness without giving his own reasons i would support a chaoser lynch however I like Rayzor more atm
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I just realized its really easy for scum to swap their votes to me last second saying "I wanna make sure someone gets lynched today over a no lynch" is there a way to combat scum hammering me like that?
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On August 21 2011 09:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
Damn it Sevryn, if you're actually town you're.... The reason I don't feel bad about keeping my vote on you is because I sincerely think you're scum, but the problem is half the town right now doesn't seem to have a clear target. We have a bunch of other players who are semiscummy too. We can get them in the next couple of days, I suppose.
So, you're going to ignore my request (and a couple others' after mine) to actually put forth a decent argument, are you? I suppose that means you're dead...
What argument is there though? I told you guys my reasons for making that first post. which seems to be everybody main reason for lynching me. I've tried to contribute my opinions really the only person i have to blame for me getting lynched is myself. I should have realized how scummy that first post would look and made a better case to pressure vote or just not try and pressure vote at all.
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