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Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 05 2012 20:05 GMT
#106
/in if there is room
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 07 2012 21:28 GMT
#218
On January 08 2012 01:05 d3_crescentia wrote:
also no girls allowed


Too late there, bud.


Hopefully this fills up soon. I'm looking forward to this.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 13 2012 06:42 GMT
#466
/confirm

Sorry guys, had a terribly busy day and am actually just heading to bed now. I'll definitely be here tomorrow.

<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 13 2012 21:22 GMT
#740
I definitely agree with Sandroba in regards to mason claims. Today however... That's the part I'm having trouble with as I don't really condone massclaims in large games this early. (Nor do most others).

I read some people saying to ignore PMs not from host. Is this really a good idea? Sort of defeats the purpose imho.

Also why did the mason mason the mason?

Right now, I'm wanting to vote one of kita, bum and BC or mayor. Of those running, I have the strongest townreads on those three or they are people I would be more willing to trust. Do we want BC superprotected or not? Like, BC, do you still really want to be mayor?

BBIAB, have to nap before work. <3
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 14 2012 00:27 GMT
#808
Alright, so I've made my mind up.

I really do think BC is a good candidate for us and thus far, I believe he's town. Which is a quality I appreciate in a mayor.

<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 14 2012 13:08 GMT
#1011
Sorry guys, had school and then had to work til 4am.

At this moment, I'm considering switching my vote for mayor to kita.
I fear WBG may be correct in regards to Palmar and that comes as unexpected to me. Not that he'd be correct, but that I'd be thinking Palmar is a good lynch d1 after the last game I was in and the realizations I came to.

(what happens if no one reaches majority for the mayoral lynch?)

It's now 5 am, I'm exhausted, I will see you tomorrow.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 14 2012 21:54 GMT
#1267
I had a big post all ready to talk to mattchew at. However, he had to go and get himself killed.

I really liked L up until he asked about the vig shot. However, he's redeemed himself since in my eyes. I like his posting style.

On January 15 2012 05:21 Foolishness wrote:
I'm also a bit pissed off at the amount of times I'm seeing "WIFOM" in peoples' posts when making an argument. Seriously guys the player list in this game is great, if people are still making one liner posts with "everything you say is WIFOM" then we should just treat this like a newbie game. If I was an acronym vigi I'd be shooting all of you tonight. The amount of lazy arguments is just honestly amazing.


What exactly is an acronym vig? I've never heard of that.

On January 15 2012 05:35 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 05:28 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 15 2012 05:25 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 15 2012 05:21 L wrote:
On January 15 2012 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm done for now. I've embarrassed myself enough for one day.

/facepalm

No, no.

Answer my question. Are you shooting CC tonight?


don't, under any circumstances talk about this or answer what L is asking you. Let them wifom about if you really are a vig and be happy with that.


do you think L is being stupid or scum?


I don't know yet and yeah I'm considering that myself. The more important question is why VE is lying, which I believe to be the case.


May I ask why you believe him to be lying?


If three people hadn't just switched to WBG all at once, I would have voted him. It just feels kinda weird. I mean, I know it's not the end of the cycle and it won't push him into the win (iirc), but...

I don't want to elect VE because I think he should have to deal with his claiming without full knowledge of his role (or what it seems) without the protective powers of being mayor.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 15 2012 01:05 GMT
#1352
On January 15 2012 07:06 Kurumi wrote:
fml
Kenpachi has been marked for death!


WTF is this. Is this real? I haven't seen anything saying otherwise yet, but...

On January 15 2012 07:20 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 06:54 Lanaia wrote:
I really liked L up until he asked about the vig shot. However, he's redeemed himself since in my eyes. I like his posting style.

I really like me too, but this line is very strange. How exactly did I 'redeem' myself and why would asking someone who just tried to shoot someone if they're going to shoot that person when their shot is available be a tell either way?


I guess I just thought it was weird. You redeemed yourself by explaining. I was writing my post as I was reading the thread so I didn't think to take out stuff that was stupid/no longer super-relevant.


WBG, I agree with the lynching Palmar thing, but I'm wary of voting you.


I feel like I should be moving my vote only out of paranoia, but at this moment, there are only two people I'd vote and neither of them would win the election this close to deadline anyways. I still think BC is town, but there's so much fuckery going on in the thread I doubt we're going to get much out of it until tomorrow at the earliest.
I know I haven't posted much, but RL is sometimes hard. Maybe that's why we still haven't heard from some people at all.
I'll be back before nightfall.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 15 2012 02:35 GMT
#1399
On January 15 2012 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lanaia, if you agree with lynching Palmar can you explain why you don't want me elected?

Who are you looking at voting for?

I don't particularly care for getting elected. All I care about is scum dying. So far I don't think macpo is scum and none of the other candidates have come up with anything promising. So, that means the only option to get Palmar lynched is to elect me in to office.

(this is suboptimal, for reasons I won't explicitly explain)


The amount of people who voted you so quickly within such a short period of time bothered me. I know it wasn't enough to swing the vote, but it really rubbed me the wrong way.

Dammit, I wish I'd not waffled so much in regards to switching my vote. Now, it's kinda too late. I really can't tell if this is my being paranoid or not.

<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 15 2012 02:42 GMT
#1403
Is protac in the lead, do we know?
ugh, there's no way WBG is going to win at this point. :/

In order to get someone into mayorship who I'm not going to be all paranoid about, I'd have to vote Bill Murray. I'm not 100% sure that is the best for us, though. Then again, I really don't know much about him.
I'm actually fighting so hard with myself here.

WBG, who do you think would be our best bet right now? I'm not seeing your vote in the vote thread for some reason (unless you haven't voted which would make sense).
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 15 2012 02:50 GMT
#1409
Okay, I think I've made my final decision. As I trust WBG right now, for reasons I'm not 100% sure of, and because I have to go to work soon, I'm going to keep my vote.
I'll be back probably on my break if I have time, otherwise 4 am my time. I need a little nap before work.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 15 2012 22:46 GMT
#1625
Sorry guys, I really meant to post before I went to bed last night, but I was absolutely exhausted.

On January 15 2012 21:52 Bill Murray wrote:
Lynch, Lynch, Lynch!:
Protactinium (Mystlord/Incognito)
sandroba
risk.nuke
Munk-E
scumatlarge
Lanaia
Macpo
Mafia

Hello BM.

Care to explain why you want to lynch all of these people? I'm curious. I agree with some, but not with others.

Right now I have to drive to school (in another town) because it's supposed to snow like a foot tonight and well, that's not the best for driving. I'll be back later.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 16 2012 03:03 GMT
#1675
I do have scumreads, they're just not as strong as the townreads I have :/ (which really doesn't help me any).
Unfortunately, there are a bunch of neutrals as well.
I'm currently writing up a post detailing such. However, it clearly won't be posted til after the night ends as I'm late here.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 16 2012 03:35 GMT
#1699
I noticed something. BM never posted who he was incarcerating.
If he were mafia, how do we think that power would be used? I'm just curious here.

However, this shortens the post I'm going to be making soon.

On January 16 2012 12:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
4 KP and right after deadline, Protac says "sandro is innocent because Ciryandor flipped scum"

Sup scum gambit?

Possible, but kita's claim...

Is it typical for people to claim what happened to them?
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 16 2012 04:24 GMT
#1718
On January 16 2012 13:11 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 12:35 Lanaia wrote:
I noticed something. BM never posted who he was incarcerating.
If he were mafia, how do we think that power would be used? I'm just curious here.

However, this shortens the post I'm going to be making soon.

On January 16 2012 12:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
4 KP and right after deadline, Protac says "sandro is innocent because Ciryandor flipped scum"

Sup scum gambit?

Possible, but kita's claim...

Is it typical for people to claim what happened to them?

Why would he? I'd be pissed if he did.


He said he would.
On January 15 2012 18:59 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 18:30 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 15 2012 07:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On January 15 2012 07:00 Kurumi wrote:
Because Mafia elects roles on Night 1 (that's correct?) they have no special powers prior to Night 2?


Incorrect.


ahh
well, that's not what I thought, either
whatever, we can work with it, even if we don't have a confirmable PR yet

Our masons are truly expendable. Sheriff is a protective role. The person I lock up can't die at night. I can limit mafia KP that way, or I can tactically use it to lower their KP in another way, but where it would be hard to know whether or not they doublestacked, I'm not sure if I want to go that route, even if it was my original plan.

I am going to go ahead and post who I'm going to arrest before the night ends


I was simply wondering if he'd changed his mind about it.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 16 2012 05:16 GMT
#1729
Bill, if that were the case, would I have been notified of being killed?
But yeah, I can confirm he did target me.
However, I have no idea why. May I ask why?
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 16 2012 07:11 GMT
#1734
Currently, this is the list of people I think are scum or I can't tell at the moment. Names we haven't actually really seen this game are likely going to be neutral.

1. kingjames01 - neutral to me, but makes very good points and I'm leaning him as town, but not enough to consider him town yet.

2. Cwave - neutral, but the only significant post he makes is just a restatement of the thread. I know, replacing in can be hard, but...

4. Slardar - neutral, focussed solely on the election. One post in particular really bothers me.
On January 16 2012 10:48 Slardar wrote:
I'm still awaiting some analysis and opinions from BC our "dear leader" here. As for BM who posted a list, in general I can't say I advocate the "Lynch all veterans" mentality this early in the game without some definitive clues. I'd rather take a shot in the dark than coin-flip on a known experienced player.



It feels really bad to me to prefer taking a shot in the dark than trying to scumhunt, even if the person we find is a veteran. No one said "lynch all the veterans" ever so I'm not entirely sure where he got that that is a prevalent mentality in this game thus far.

5. risk.nuke - His campaign basis bothered me. "Always a townie," eh? Right now, I'm null on him. He's active and willing, which is probably good, but is he overeager? If he is overeager, that may be an issue. His post saying "Townies read this" also bothered me as it was a bit contradictory with his play.

7. Cyber_Cheese - I believe he is mafia. Very poor mayoral campaign. Why bother when your main platform initially is how bad you are as scum? Also, you want to lynch someone based on his formatting. That's kind of strange, I feel.

8. Jayjay54 - I have no idea what to say about him. I can't read him worth a damn. Neutral.

10. Munk-E - Three posts in the whole game. He is neutral, but what he's said does not lead me to believe he is town. In that case, though, it is gut.

11. EchelonTee - neutral

12. Adam4167 - neutral

17. ~OpZ~ - I'm neutral-leaning-scum, but that's not really anything more than gut right now. Stats say that probably one of the masons is scum, correct?

19. BrownBear - neutral

22. rgTheSchworz - Leaning scum because of the things he's said. This is gut.

24. Toadesstern - I really cannot read him.

26. glurio - Neutral as we haven't really seen enough to get a good read yet.

30. blahz0r - The case on him is one I really like. I agree that he is probably mafia.

31. VisceraEyes - I really have no idea at this point. He could very well do either way.

32. GGQ - He really hasn't said much at all yet.

33. sandroba - I very much want to think sandro is town, but right now, I can't say I do. I think I'm being led by other people's posts about him in that way, but reading the skype logs makes me feel a bit better about him.

35. zeks - Neutral

37. igabod - Neutral, hasn't really said anything constructive whatsoever imho.

39. hiro protagonist - Straight up null read from him because he's got one post and Erandorr wasn't really much help iirc.

42. evantrees - Neutral on him.

43. Chaosquo - Too little to really read anything.

45. Macpo - cases seem strong, leaning scum.

46. rtgICEMAN - I've felt he's scum for a while. I'm not really sure what else I can say

47. Maxella - Tried to find a filter for this person, but I couldn't even find a post or the person's profile. :/ Extremely neutral.

49. Scamp - I'm neutral-leaning-scum on this guy.
On January 16 2012 12:45 Scamp wrote:
I was expecting a rash of modkills. I'm highly disappointed. Though the death of Ciryandor is nice.

Not really sure why WBG thinks he should still be talking right now.


I don't like that he was expecting it and was highly disappointed in it. Proportionately, it was more likely to see a lot of town in there. Him saying that ciry's death was nice felt a bit... unnatural. Also, is that bitterness I see towards WBG? Care to reiterate what you mean by the last line, scamp? How is he playing that is so bad to you?

50. Nisani201 - neutral-leaning-town.


I'd be willing to lynch anyone who I've tagged as mafia in this post.

I am unsure if I'm fine with a DL at the moment.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 16 2012 07:24 GMT
#1736
I meant to delete the nisani bit.

Also, it appears I've been mixing up rtgICEMAN and rgTheSchworz. However, that's okay because they both feel the same to me anyhow.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 16 2012 20:54 GMT
#1828
On January 16 2012 17:10 blahz0r wrote:
Lanaia: Is that it? You like the case on me, cool. All you provided is a list, a list by which you think who is who. Anyone can do that. Noting you down just in case people refer back to this post if I die.

I'd rather not simply rehash everything everyone else has said in regards to you. It would be identical and I'd be called scum.


On January 16 2012 16:42 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 16:11 Lanaia wrote:
7. Cyber_Cheese - I believe he is mafia. Very poor mayoral campaign. Why bother when your main platform initially is how bad you are as scum? Also, you want to lynch someone based on his formatting. That's kind of strange, I feel.


The formatting looks like its copy pasted from a quicktopic, and he refuses to explain it.


I've never c/p'd anything from a QT so I had no idea what it looked like.

On January 16 2012 18:46 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lanaia: Name two people you would, without a doubt, lynch today.

blahz0r and slardar.

blahz0r: seven posts total. Very defensive. Says a post he made in the past should clear him of being scum.
On January 16 2012 17:10 blahz0r wrote:
How am I Mafia if I posted this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=68#1360 before Ciryandor the Mafia Goon was killed. Mafia would not bring up old posts of their own teammates to try to bring them back into the spotlight. It would make most sense for a town member to do it.

This is WIFOM. Overly defensive. Mafia may very well do it too. This logic is flawed. Saying things like "I guarantee I am town" feels forced and therefore scummy. I'm fine with you assuring us you are town, but guaranteeing it seems over the top.

slardar: makes a campaign, says lynch targets aren't important (they kind of are), nothing insightful, fewer reads listed than me, etc. Has done nothing whatsoever.

Also lurkers might be okay as well.

@Jay, do you think both sandro and BC could theoretically be scum? Also how is the late posting of the logs bad? I think it makes sense, as we have more complete logs than if they'd posted them 24 hours previous to that (given they haven't altered them).


On January 17 2012 02:20 Jayjay54 wrote:
b) How does BM know that he saved her? Does he get notified? And why would he want that if he thinks shes scum? And why on earth would the mafia use a pretty NK to kill a pretty neutral person who even was a lynch candidate to some? Please enlighten us BM.

=> Don’t know what to make out of it. But I don’t believe whatsoever that the mafia used a NK on her.

Unless he was notified, I am positive I wasn't killed.
Well, if scum had me pegged as an important blue, don't you think they might risk a shot?


@BM Why did you choose me to jail? Who do you wish to lynch today?

Also, is it cool if I try to make a filter list as flamewheel took his down? I know a lot of people would like one, correct?

Can we please leave names in on the quotes? Makes things a million times easier.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
January 16 2012 23:04 GMT
#1871
On January 17 2012 05:18 rgTheSchworz wrote:
And if you continue to spell my name wrong, i'll auto-vote you.Reason: Your posts are hastily maken,crap, you want to post something so attention doesn't fall onto you.

The hell...
You're going to vote someone for spelling your name wrong? With reasons that aren't really backed up?


On January 17 2012 06:18 Slardar wrote:
Lanaia you're obviously misinterpreting what I wrote. I never said let's not scumhunt, I said let's not scumhunt based off no definitive clues and one persons "hunch". Other is preference, would you like to coin-flip on a veteran player or a less known player?

But going off just that to lynch me seems farfetched.


Sorry I misinterpreted, but there was more than that. Lynching into the dark has a 1/5 chance of hitting scum. If one person has feelings towards someone being scum, dependent upon whether or not they are good scumhunters, we really should investigate further.
When you say there were no definitive clues, what exactly do you mean?
Also, considering this is your first game here, why did you opt to run for mayor? No one knows you nor do they know how well you play (given you haven't played elsewhere with them).
Your first ingame post was basically saying you'd lynch sheth as your entire platform. Why is that? The next post said "I have no idea who I'd lynch." As mayor, democratic voting system pushes blame off of you, which some construe as scummy as has already been pointed out in thread.
Had you been elected yesterday, who would you have lynched?


On January 17 2012 07:17 kingjames01 wrote:
Bill Murray:

You incarcerated Lanaia during Night 1. Why did you choose her? Also, why do you think you saved her from death? She received no such notification.

Do you believe that the mafia joined the election Day 1 and do you think that they succeeded to take at least one of the roles?

Have you taken also precautions so that in the event of BC and/or your early demise, the Bodyguards will be revealed to the thread?


Not only was I not notified, kita claimed he had been shot. Very much interested in his answer to this.

Damn Nisani. Daaaamn. That was... a very insightful analysis.


In regards to double lynch: Is it typically considered protown?

Of the three main candidates, I'd prefer GGQ or Protact over sandroba. His logs with BC make me feel he's fairly town. Of Protact and GGQ, I think I'd prefer lynching GGQ.

I won't be voting for a while yet, though.
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