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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 19 2011 17:34 GMT
#44
/in waaaaaay early. I have to be.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
January 04 2012 06:54 GMT
#91
SO MUCH /IN
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
January 12 2012 07:57 GMT
#363
On January 12 2012 11:39 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@Bumatlarge I'm lunar charged dragon, shall we merge and end the game on turn one? Keep in mind I could be lieing about it and you could be lieing about yours, but I trust you. ##MergeBeginningOfTheEnd


He lies, I'm the real lunar charged dragon. He's just trying to get you to waste your power so we can't win!
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
January 14 2012 18:09 GMT
#1079
Good lord these things grow fast.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
January 15 2012 04:48 GMT
#1493
My apologies for missing the vote, I thought I had an extra 24 hours, and was watching football

I'll take whatever punishment I'm given.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
January 15 2012 19:03 GMT
#1598
On January 16 2012 03:58 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 03:41 L wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:54 Jayjay54 wrote:
Why is my quoting not working? it showed up properly in ther preview.

On January 16 2012 02:33 L wrote:
On January 16 2012 02:11 Jayjay54 wrote:
I am not a hugh fan of the "please think about it and you'll see why" solution. Please enlighten me. It looks stupid to me and to others as well.

In what way am I tunneling you? I even state that it might be a stupid mistake. If you have a reasonable explanation, even better.

I know you might not be a huge fan of having to think, but you'll have to make due with that until day rolls around, mon ami.

Why would you you need that information during the night cycle anyways, hmm? I could play dumb and pretend there's no possible reason a townie would want that kind of information and then extrapolate into calling you scum. Who would that remind you of?


Man, don't attack me on a personal level. Keep it on game level.

I thought about it and it makes no sense, you don't want to provide information, alright. But then don't complain, if this seems odd.

And the last paragraph: Yeah I agree, we should only do scumhunting in the day cycle. That way we have way more time...wait what?

Man,

Enter the clueless/hurt card at this point. You've put zero analysis other than "I CANT FIGURE IT OUT" into your claim, and you've been tunneled on the issue for around 30% of your posting history. I dont' even have an argument to refute other than your claim that "you don't like the post".

Dude, sick scumhunting. Especially the part wherein you attempt to pressure me into giving information about someone who claimed jack during the game phase wherein he might die.

I think I'm done even bothering to reply to this thread-clutter until you make an argument or day rolls around.

Ciao until morning!


I'm neither clueless nor hurt, but I think insulting players for game purposes is bullshit and thus I called it.

If you ask a vig who is going to shoot and he answers truthfully, you prevented a nightshot. So there is no real perspective townwise. It was a bad town play. That is my arguement and you don't really bother to try to explain that move with anything else than "if you would be smart enough, you'd know what I did that for". bravo.

I didn't pressure you. I just ask for an explanation. You may feel pressured. But in fact, I just tried to sort out why you played like you did. And I didn't ask about VE. I asked about you.

Finally, I didn't refer to my scumhunting, but scumhunting in general. If we are accused to be a scum, just because we ask for information at night, it's going to prevent any scumhunting.


It's just Mafia, man. It's a pretty emotional game, small insults get thrown around all the time. You learn to ignore it pretty quickly.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
January 17 2012 01:21 GMT
#1953
On January 17 2012 09:58 Protactinium wrote:


Everyone is talking too much about bussing when it doesn't really make any sense at this point.



Someone give this man (these men?) a medal. We need to refocus.

First, my apologies for disappearing on town the first day. I was watching football most of the weekend with my girlfriend (she's a patriots fan, I'm a 49ers fan, so we're both pretty happy with how that turned out ), and I thought that I had 24 extra hours, so I was planning to jump on late and post... and, well, I jumped on to my name up for potential modkill The way I think it's gonna work is that I will play out this game, and take my ban like a man at it's conclusion.

I have been following the thread to a certain extent, although I still havent sifted through the massive clusterfuck of the first day (and probably never will be able to fully understand it, to be honest). I'm a little curious about Kenpachi, to start off. Hit filter on his posts to see what I'm talking about... I understand this is highly hypocritical coming from a guy with 2 posts ingame to date, but his posts don't really seem to be saying all that much. He seems pretty apathetic and intent on causing chaos, to be honest. At most, 3 lines in any given post. When you look at the Kenpachi of games past, he's known for occasionally being random and spammy, but that's the thing: Spammy. This is a pretty big deviation from when I last played with him. Now granted, that was a long time ago, but still, it gives me pause.

Kenpachi (RAMASAMA), feel free to explain your lack of commitment to this game. Are you 2busy playing dota2 as well? Or is it something more?
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
January 17 2012 01:23 GMT
#1954
Not to mention Kenpachi immediately switches his vote to Sandroba right after Toadesstern posts a huge rant about why Sandroba must die (page 97). I feel like he's avoiding attention for some reason, and I want to know why.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
January 17 2012 17:02 GMT
#2174

On January 17 2012 12:35 Bill Murray wrote:
Ok, guys, I've passed on the names of the BGs to the 2 masons that masoned me
the other guy townslipped in PMs with me


Can we have your reasoning behind why you did this? It seems pretty reckless.

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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
January 18 2012 08:09 GMT
#2357
pew pew die scum

I'm still not convinced about Kenpachi, will try to find more reasons besides gut feeling and what was already posted tomorrow. Sleeeeep.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
January 18 2012 19:39 GMT
#2419
On January 19 2012 03:21 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Hmm, the way I see it, BM or BC is scum.
Scum don't usually like to take risks. If they already had a strong candidate on the line, why risk another?

If it came down to denying one scum role.
The mayor chooses a lynch and gets three votes, it's easy enough to make sure the mayor mislynches, and mason the mayor and attempt to sway him on later days. The sheriff's power however, could block KP and save townies.
Sheriff seems like the obvious choice.


I dislike the use of the argument "One of the mayor or sheriff MUST be scum because scum wouldn't let both spots go to townies" because it's just... not accurate. Sure, it's pretty logical to think Mafia would throw a candidate out there, but people place too much faith in Mafia's ability to win elections based off their super-secret voting bloc and their supposed ability to con their way into office. In the end, a mafia candidate has to win his office based off of solid reasoning and debate, not by virtue of mafia being able to sprinkle a few extra votes his way.

What if Protactinium was the mafia candidate and he just happened to lose a close race to BC and BM? What if WBG was the mafia candidate, and he just scrubbed his campaign epically? What if mafia pulled a double-fakeout and stayed completely out of the mayoral race, knowing we'd be picking the winners to pieces and spending less time trying to find them? These are all questions we should be asking.

Do I think one or both of BC or BM is probably mafia? In this case, I wouldn't be surprised. However, the argument "One of them must be mafia because they're elected officials" has no place here.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
January 20 2012 02:22 GMT
#2783
On January 20 2012 10:48 Bill Murray wrote:
I've got to vote kingjames, even if I have a townslip from him;
I KNOW I'm a mad hatter, he could be a townie
sandroba needs rope really badly
My one bomb is on Protactinium, so when I'm lynched, I guess he's coming with me
My Night 1 was jailing Lanaia, and then I was going to fake that I "derped" on the next 2 nights
Why else would I jailkeep N1? It was a bad idea in retrospect, but I thought I would either die N1 if BC was mafia, or I would have until BrownBear and Kitaman were alive.

Cwave masoned me yesterday
Jitsu masoned me yesterday
one of BC or OpZ are probably mafia
GG guys I'm dead in an hour if you all don't unvote and there goes the sheriff


Wait what. This is nonsensical and silly.

Why on earth do you have a bomb on Protact if you're MH? I thought you had a town read on him, or was I just imagining that?
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
January 23 2012 16:21 GMT
#3776
On January 24 2012 01:17 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 22:54 Bill Murray wrote:
Woe is me, a scumtell, indeed? I think not. I am sad that we couldn't reconcile our differences. Every case on me has involved some other person. Noone can have anything real on me, it's all just a fake twisting of my words. I have tried to step up, and lead, and it is really not my style this game. I don't know what to do. I'm not a "mechanics breaking" player, and I don't know if I can trust players like hiro.protaganist or Foolishness, and I know I couldn't trust trusted scumhunters BC and Inognito/Mystlore hydra because which of them did the mafia run?


You are kidding me right?

First of all, most cases involve interacting with other people. Why? Because it's the freaking game.

And no one had to twist your words. Your jail actions, you calls, you lies everything made no sense from a town point of view. All you did was nourish confusion which is something scum people do. It's ridiculous that you accuse people who made cases on you, because you played poorly.


The problem is, because its BM, these aren't scumtells. They're normal BM behavior. And if we have even the slightest lead on anyone else (Meapak, toad, kenpachi, whoever), it's more worth following than just lynching BM.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
January 23 2012 22:09 GMT
#3869
On January 24 2012 03:58 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 03:47 Cwave wrote:
Since Bill Murray went loco and "outed"the names he pm'd to me i will ask this to BloodyCobbler one last time.
Bill Murray "outs" Brownbear as a BG. This is also one of the same names Bill Murray gave to me and Jitsu.

+ Show Spoiler +

On January 24 2012 01:22 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 00:53 Nisani201 wrote:
On January 23 2012 22:54 Bill Murray wrote:
If I was mafia, I would have substituted both bodyguards, and killed BC
Is BC dead? No. Because I can't kill anyone.

Erm, what? BC is mayor. You couldn't kill him even if you wanted to.

yeah, but i could if i sent in the kills like this:
brownbear
kitaman
BC
donzo


Before, BloodyCobbler assures that Bill Murray gave false names which directs the heat away.

+ Show Spoiler +

On January 22 2012 23:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 23:40 jaj22 wrote:
Although BM lying about the bodyguard(s) also makes sense from a scum perspective, as an attempt to push suspicion away from Sandroba.



based on cwaves comment i can already tell you that bm did not release the correct bg names to them


But here you list him as lynchtarget.
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 22 2012 04:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 03:20 Toadesstern wrote:
oh also I'd like to hear some names from you BC. Just shout out who you want to lynch BC right now. preferable after the night-/day switch as well.


currently based on reading via filter.

BM, WBG, and Meapak in that order of preference.

After that insert Glurio, Evantrees, Munk-e, opz, kenpachi, brownbear.

As there are 6 mafia left, some of those are obviously at this point not correct, but they all seem intelligent choices based on the play of each one of the.


Does not compute. Is Bill Murray really a pathological liar and can i just straight out ignore him for now on and for all of eternity?
Or did you infact list one of the bodyguards on your own lynch-list?

yeah he obviously slipped there
im sure brownbear will confirm it
let me go double check


Keep me out of your circle of lies.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
January 23 2012 22:14 GMT
#3872
I should clarify. BM has outed me as a "bodyguard", and in the interest of not lying to town and hopefully cutting a little bit of the craziness out of this mess BM's created, I've decided to tell the truth - I am in fact a BG. I was hesitant at first for obvious reasons, but this is going to get talked to death over the course of the day and waste valuable time, and I just want what I can control to be cleared up, so I'm not "guilty by association" if BM happens to flip red.

That is all.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 19:50:02
January 24 2012 19:47 GMT
#4360

Lol game's over nvm.

you're still an idiot, VE.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
January 24 2012 19:54 GMT
#4363
hooooly crap GM Banling, grats

And yes, I'm done. ggz
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