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Drazerk
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HI MIG! :D | ||
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Drazerk
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On August 02 2011 05:52 heist wrote: Loving the TF2 theme. I'd just like to say that it's highly recommended to post somewhat actively in the thread and not just disappear into solely IRC or PMs. We don't want an atmosphere where RED Team can just sit back, consort amongst themselves, and generally be inactive in the thread. While a good thread presence is needed I still think you can do most of the legwork in IRC / PM. My only issue will be if people just vote for no reason and say - IRC discussion. If your going to vote / spout accusations you make all your posts clear in thread and don't use PMs as an easy method to bandwagon. Anyone who is scared of PMing / joining in IRC discussion should be put under the spot light it is actually one of our greatest tools as town and avoiding them gives scum a huge advantage. Also I agree with Sand's plan. The sooner we have confirmed town players the better. | ||
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Drazerk
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Opposing sand's plan with no real reasons while defending himself like a mad man in IRC when he has no real reason to defend himself yet. | ||
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On August 02 2011 08:41 Drazerk wrote: ##Vote RedFF Opposing sand's plan with no real reasons while defending himself like a mad man in IRC when he has no real reason to defend himself yet. + Show Spoiler + [00:01] <alanismorisette> love is like a roll of tape [00:01] <alanismorisette> real good for makin 2 things one [00:02] <mig__> red making bad jokes at the start of games is a scum tell [00:03] <alanismorisette> ... [00:03] <alanismorisette> I DO THAT EVERY GAME [00:03] <alanismorisette> WHY DO PPL THINK THAT MAKES ME SCUM [00:03] <mig__> maybe you just always seem scummy [00:05] <alanismorisette> ... [00:11] <Lucidity> as a former scum buddy of red's [00:11] <Lucidity> I can confirm that he is scum this game [00:12] <mig__> what do you think of sandroba's plan lucid? [00:14] <Lucidity> i was going to suggest the same thing [00:15] <Lucidity> but we need to discuss it a bit more to ascertain whether the reward outweighs the risks [00:15] <Lucidity> if the day vig knows what he's doing I think it could be quite effective [00:15] <mig__> yea [00:16] <mig__> I think the positives far out weight the negatives [00:17] <Lucidity> we'll have to assume that some mafia will fake claim [00:18] <Lucidity> not doing so would be detrimental to them [00:18] <mig__> yes I think that is the best part [00:18] <mig__> is the possibility of them fucking up the fake claims [00:18] <Lucidity> But which fake claims have the potential to be hurtful to town? [00:18] <Drazerk> not sure how they can fake claim [00:18] <mig__> if an abnormal amount of roles are claimed it should be obvious to the day vig something is up [00:18] <Lucidity> only medic as far as i can see [00:19] <Lucidity> fake everything else only helps town in the long run [00:19] <mig__> well the mafias plan will likely be fake claim today then shoot day vig tonight [00:19] <mig__> just want to fake long enough that the day vig doesnt have them killed in the night [00:19] <Drazerk> which is why the day vig will need medic protection [00:23] <Lucidity> does dochelvetica ever use punctuation? [00:23] <Lucidity> I find myself out of breath reading his posts [00:32] <alanismorisette> ... [00:32] <alanismorisette> lol [00:34] <Curu> redFF made no jokes at the start of PTP [00:34] <Curu> and he was Town [00:35] <Curu> COINCIDENCE? [00:36] <alanismorisette> ... [00:36] <alanismorisette> didnt i make jokes? [00:36] <alanismorisette> i did [00:36] <alanismorisette> give me the wand imo [00:36] <alanismorisette> that was one [00:36] <alanismorisette> and i kept tlpdizing everything [00:37] <alanismorisette> thats why lanaia [00:37] <mig__> great jokes [00:37] <mig__> red are you actually trying to defend yourself on whether you made jokes or not? The fact that he is defending him so hard for such a simple joke is retarded. He is now fully on board with the Sand plan after he realizes how scummy it makes him look for opposing the idea and now is defending himself even more because of my pressure vote. + Show Spoiler + [00:48] <alanismorisette> hey draz [00:48] <alanismorisette> reasonless votes not good [00:48] <alanismorisette> post the irc chat [00:48] <alanismorisette> s [00:48] <alanismorisette> so people can see ur reasoning [00:48] <alanismorisette> Drazerk: [00:49] <Drazerk> want me to copy the IRC for you then? [00:49] <Drazerk> I will do it lol [00:49] <alanismorisette> yeah [00:49] <alanismorisette> please [00:49] <alanismorisette> if you're gonna vote [00:49] <alanismorisette> show people the evidnece [00:49] <alanismorisette> also [00:49] <alanismorisette> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249971¤tpage=8#147 [00:49] <alanismorisette> that is why this plan on day 1 double lynch is terrible [00:50] <Drazerk> I am not jumping on a bandwagon [00:50] <alanismorisette> the day when we are most likely to lynch town is when we should double lynch! [00:50] <alanismorisette> yay! [00:51] <Drazerk> we have actually got a decent track record day 1 at the moment [00:51] <Drazerk> when we kill you [00:51] <Drazerk> we will have a even better one [00:51] <alanismorisette> Drazerk: pleaes tell me why im scum [00:51] <alanismorisette> please [00:51] <alanismorisette> just make one post [00:51] <alanismorisette> on the thread Oh wait never mind now he hates the plan again... such wishy washy play with no real decision making. Red Is scum | ||
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Drazerk
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On August 02 2011 09:03 redFF wrote: k drazerk left out part of the conversation. read the whole thing and decide if i'm scum+ Show Spoiler + [7:30pm] Lucidity: does dochelvetica ever use punctuation? [7:31pm] Lucidity: I find myself out of breath reading his posts [7:39pm] alanismorisette: ... [7:39pm] alanismorisette: lol [7:42pm] Curu joined the chat room. [7:42pm] Curu: redFF made no jokes at the start of PTP [7:42pm] Curu: and he was Town [7:42pm] Curu: COINCIDENCE? [7:43pm] alanismorisette: ... [7:43pm] alanismorisette: didnt i make jokes? [7:43pm] alanismorisette: i did [7:44pm] alanismorisette: give me the wand imo [7:44pm] alanismorisette: that was one [7:44pm] alanismorisette: and i kept tlpdizing everything [7:44pm] alanismorisette: thats why lanaia [7:44pm] mig__: great jokes [7:45pm] mig__: red are you actually trying to defend yourself on whether you made jokes or not? [7:45pm] Drazerk: Red is so scummy >.< [7:45pm] alanismorisette: ... [7:45pm] alanismorisette: how [7:46pm] alanismorisette: is ptp over yet? [7:46pm] Drazerk: not yet [7:46pm] mig__: its weird that you seem to be actually trying to defend yourself when people are clearly fucking around with you [7:46pm] mig__: concerning the jokes [7:46pm] Drazerk: also the fact that your opposing sand's plan [7:47pm] Lucidity: opposing with no reasons [7:47pm] Lucidity: opposing is fine tbh [7:49pm] alanismorisette: well [7:49pm] alanismorisette: im not opposing [7:49pm] alanismorisette: im just saying that vigs shooting day 1 [7:49pm] alanismorisette: is not necessarily amazing [7:49pm] alanismorisette: u gain a confirmed town [7:49pm] alanismorisette: but u may lose a town too [7:49pm] Drazerk: not if we are doing it how sand proposes [7:50pm] Drazerk: in that case it would just be the same as lynching a townie which is much worse [7:50pm] alanismorisette: yeah [7:50pm] alanismorisette: i guess [7:50pm] Curu: you also had no problem shooting on like page 1 of your other game as day vig  [7:50pm] alanismorisette: i dunno if today is the day i wanna double lynch [7:50pm] alanismorisette: but that time i shot the gf [7:50pm] alanismorisette: he was obv [7:51pm] alanismorisette: its different when there arent obvscum [7:51pm] Curu: this time we might too ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [7:51pm] Curu: didnt you shoot him cause he made some pump up town post [7:54pm] alanismorisette: well [7:54pm] alanismorisette: kita random voted [7:54pm] alanismorisette: and he was like [7:54pm] alanismorisette: you shouldn;t do it this early in the game, town has lost games recently and we need to pull ourselves together. etcetc [7:55pm] alanismorisette: then he made another post [7:55pm] alanismorisette: telling everyone to read his vigi guide [7:55pm] alanismorisette: and then he made another post attacking someone for a joke [7:55pm] alanismorisette: plus there was one guy defending him who looked scummy too(and was the rb) [7:55pm] alanismorisette: so i shot him [7:55pm] alanismorisette: hey draz [7:56pm] alanismorisette: reasonless votes not good [7:56pm] alanismorisette: post the irc chat [7:56pm] alanismorisette: s [7:56pm] alanismorisette: so people can see ur reasoning [7:56pm] alanismorisette: Drazerk: [7:56pm] Drazerk: want me to copy the IRC for you then? [7:56pm] Drazerk: I will do it lol [7:57pm] alanismorisette: yeah [7:57pm] alanismorisette: please [7:57pm] alanismorisette: if you're gonna vote [7:57pm] Rinku left the chat room. (Ping timeout) [7:57pm] alanismorisette: show people the evidnece [7:57pm] alanismorisette: also [7:57pm] alanismorisette: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=249971¤tpage=8#147 [7:57pm] alanismorisette: that is why this plan on day 1 double lynch is terrible [7:57pm] Drazerk: I am not jumping on a bandwagon [7:57pm] alanismorisette: the day when we are most likely to lynch town is when we should double lynch! [7:57pm] alanismorisette: yay! [7:58pm] Drazerk: we have actually got a decent track record day 1 at the moment [7:58pm] Drazerk: when we kill you [7:58pm] Drazerk: we will have a even better one [7:59pm] alanismorisette: Drazerk: pleaes tell me why im scum [7:59pm] alanismorisette: please [7:59pm] alanismorisette: just make one post [7:59pm] alanismorisette: on the thread [7:59pm] alanismorisette: outlining why i am scum [7:59pm] sandroba left the chat room. (Ping timeout) [7:59pm] alanismorisette: you have no reasons apart from opposing a flawed plan with perfectly reasonable reasons [8:00pm] alanismorisette: and from me pointing out that it is in my meta to joke day 1 [8:02pm] alanismorisette: Drazerk: [8:02pm] alanismorisette: why am i scum [8:03pm] Drazerk: wishy washy play - Hating a very good town plan when "Oh noes we may accidencently kill a scummy town player" and the whole fact you are defending yourself this hard over a joke and a pressure vote [8:04pm] alanismorisette: ..... [8:04pm] alanismorisette: k [8:05pm] alanismorisette: it is not a "very good town plan" [8:05pm] alanismorisette: it wasnt defending myself hard over a joke [8:05pm] Drazerk: II'd rather kill a useless towny than lynch a useless towny [8:05pm] alanismorisette: curu made a statement and i responded [8:05pm] alanismorisette: now ur saying im a useless townie? [8:06pm] alanismorisette: chill with the insults and twisting my words dude [8:06pm] Curu: what [8:06pm] Curu: i never asid you were useless townie [8:06pm] alanismorisette: no [8:06pm] alanismorisette: drazerk is [8:06pm] Curu: oh [8:06pm] Drazerk: I never said you was a useless townie - I was refering to the plan [8:06pm] Drazerk: Your a very bad scum membet [8:06pm] Drazerk: member* [8:07pm] alanismorisette: drazerk [8:07pm] alanismorisette: i've played like 10x more games then you [8:07pm] alanismorisette: stop calling me bad [8:07pm] alanismorisette: also [8:07pm] alanismorisette: the plan is bad [8:07pm] alanismorisette: because [8:08pm] alanismorisette: we will most likely lynch 2 townies and then mafia will double stack the dayvig tonight [8:08pm] alanismorisette: how is that a good plan? I included the relevant information - Now your just adding the part where you are wishy washy while adding IRC chat that hadn't been posted yet | ||
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Drazerk
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Basically I've been using myself as a scum magnet, ( Yes I discussed this with other people before I started doing it ) I made myself an easy bandwagon target once I knew town had found a decent lynch candidate that I thought was scum knowing they would need a safe scapegoat to lynch. ( Ok my attacks on RedFF wasn't exactly part of this plan but they did allow me to do it easier ) Varp was being lynched and they didn't think lucidity would of worked so they went after the next best thing - a lurker who made a bad FoS at the start of the game ( Ok sorry red ). So now we have three scum found who all have ties with Varp in defending him while pushing my lynch. JeeJee and chaos 13 are basically the same person in this game. Defend Varp while pushing for my lynch when actually a vigilante shot would of been much better for the town as it does not waste a lynch. If you want to kill a lurker the best thing to do is shoot and ask questions later these guys just wanted an easy, safe lynch that would not raise much suspicion when I flipped blue. Now here is something you may not have noticed. BC was the first person to actually propose a lynch on me but he didn't do it, rather when someone did vote me he instantly voted JeeJee. The only reason he would do this would be if he actually 100% knew I was town and thought the lynch had a chance of actually going ahead to buy him town cred by apposing the lynch. His play is very wishy washy and has been acting like scum in a variety of different ways throughout the game. So here is your scum team: Chaos13 BC JeeJee Lurking just won us the game... or it could be that the scum all sucked. | ||
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On August 05 2011 06:25 redFF wrote: Drazerk has been posting actively in ptp2 and has barely touched this thread, i dont like that sir, not one bit. I found the entire scum team and there is little to discuss at the moment. | ||
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On August 05 2011 06:28 redFF wrote: holy shit active lurking much lol As I said - bring up discussion ill post. Lots of discussion in PTP2 - lots of activity | ||
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On August 05 2011 06:33 chaos13 wrote: Oh fucking fuck I forgot to post it in the voting thread Sure you did. | ||
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On August 05 2011 06:34 redFF wrote: ... ... | ||
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On August 05 2011 06:38 redFF wrote: see now ew have something to discuss. Would you say without a doubt that those 3 are scum? I mean i thought you were scummy too lol am i mafia? Also I doubt both JeeJee and BC are on scumteam. Aren't they the 2 most experienced players in the game? You thought I was scummy because it was a week ass FoS. JeeJee thought I was scummy for different reasons which made him scummy. Don't rule anything out. It can happen. | ||
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Drazerk
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Reasons stated earlier in the thread. Going to bed keep posting IRC discussions. | ||
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Drazerk
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The failure of that post just about sums up my play this game... | ||
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On August 09 2011 02:50 ghrur wrote: The problem with the vets is that even if they're not vets, they aren't necessarily mafia. It might be pointless to lynch through them. I'm thinking Lucid looks very fishy, but I still support the YM lynch come day. On another note, where did Drazerk disappear to? No body knows someone should probably tell him he is still playing. | ||
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go go 10 min day! | ||
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On August 09 2011 07:28 Curu wrote: I'd also be a bit wary of Drazerk since his entire scum game in PTP was to be useless and active lurk while voting/bussing to gain Town cred. Already killed a townie. Can't be scum  | ||
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On August 09 2011 18:33 Lucidity wrote: I think we need to lynch the 2nd last scum before we go into the Vets. It's more likely that the scum without RB took the risk in fakeclaiming. If we lynch the RB, our Vets have power again, which will help in the end game when he can't night kill. There's no way we have 6 Vets, so 1 Vet is definitely scum. I was sure YM would flip scum and then we would be lynching Vets from now on, starting with me and ending with Mig -.- Filter Drazerk's posts. It doesn't even make up one page and most of it is 1 liner spam. He claimed that his lurking on Day 1 was part of a plan to trap the scum (YM / Mig confirmed this ), but he hasn't changed his behaviour since then either. He hasn't been AFK the whole time, he is literally lurking. He should be high on the list of lynch candidates. A lurky scum would complement an active fake claim Vet-scum too. Ill kill myself before lylo - After we lynch you and chaos. | ||
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On August 10 2011 02:30 Curu wrote: Ugh look people, we have 3 mislynches available until lylo. The game is in no way won. TAA, Sevyrn, Barundar, Kenpachi, chaos if you can't put forth the effort to even post something of worth every few hours please ask to be replaced out. Losing this game after half the scum team gone by night 2 would be the most embarrassing ordeal on TL, worse than the SNMMV debacle. It's been like 18 hours and I'm still the only vote that's been cast. Chaos is scum TAA is probably town Sevyrn is possibly scum Barundar is active in IRC and is probably town Kenpachi subbed in for sand he is 100% town I am probably town because scum keep trying to lynch me. | ||
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Drazerk
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bandwagon hero + inactivity rivalling mine. | ||
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