TL Mafia XLIII

On August 02 2011 07:26 Mig wrote:
No just tell the vigs who to hit, medics who to protect, dts who to check. All he has to do is make sure nobody is overlapping or shooting each other. As long as the day vig doesn't reveal anything else mafia isn't going to gain very much information from it.

On August 02 2011 08:22 Curu wrote:


1. Why is that important? And how does that have any effect on the plan?
2. Well good, they stack hits and kill less people then. There's no net loss from confirming a Townie.
3. Vig is shooting who we were going to lynch anyways, so if that person was a Doctor then they were dead either way.
4. See point 3.
5. This forces Mafia to fake their claims, and every role in the OP is easily confirmable, giving more chances to find scum slipping.

On August 02 2011 08:25 sandroba wrote:
How is that going to keep discussion focused on blues? We'll have 2 lynches to discuss and basically skip night 1. If you say it's rare to hit mafia that way day1 it's exactly the same way as a day1 lynch and we go straight into the next lynch with info from the flip/wagons.

On August 02 2011 09:01 Lucidity wrote:

How will he figure out who the other vig shots are aimed at? How will a fake medic find out who the other medics are protecting? Who said the plan is faultless?

I think I'll take your advice and vote for you!

##vote redFF

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If there isn't a great candidate for day vig I agree with heist's Day 2 proposal. We don't really want to use our vigi's and hatters on Night 1 anyway, do we? Confirmed townie might be more effective on Day 2. The only problem is the risk of losing him on Night 1...

On August 02 2011 09:20 chaos13 wrote:
DrH has the right idea here. Yes, confirmed townies are excellent. However, mafia can easily fake claim a role like medic or vig, and then we would need to waste our DT checks in order to confirm those claims. Not only that, but we have no idea who the day vig actually is. If it's in the hands of a weaker player, that could lead to complete and utter disaster. Having one player coordinate all the actions of the blues is never a good thing. There is far too much room for error in such a situation, especially since mafia are able to PM and influence the game as well. Ultimately, however, it is up to the individuals with the roles to decide what to do. Discussion about this is very good, but I would rather not waste all day with it. Just something to keep in mind if we're still arguing about it in 24 hours.



Vigis, because there are probably a lot of you in here: Do not shoot unless it is at confirmed scum. If you feel you must shoot anyway, take out lurkers and liars. This sort of common sense is all too often ignored, and results in dead town. Even take DT claims with a grain of salt. If analysis points to a player being town when a claimed check has shown red, proceed with caution. It could be a miller or a scum's fake claim in order to waste a vig shot, especially if the claimed DT player has been under suspicion.

On August 02 2011 09:29 Varpulis wrote:

Anybody who is publicly known to be controlling the blues/leading the town is going to get shot eventually, especially if they've got kp.

I'll eat my hat if we've got more than 1 medic in a 20 player game.