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Can I please get that role? | ||
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get replaced, or something. I just got added into closed casket mafia, so I want my attention there. | ||
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On June 28 2011 15:23 VisceraEyes wrote: @GM At any rate, 201 is correct, Palmar DID /out before the game started. He'll either be Mod-killed or replaced before Day 2, I totally forgot. Aside from adding LSB to the vet list, which Wiggles already suggested, I have no problems with your list. :D NOW What do we do with it? We've pretty much unanimously decided that blues will be acting on their own with VERY limited guidance from the rest of town. Should we just go down the list and start asking people their opinions on each one? Or is that just something to look at once people start dying? So, I did out, I still got sent a role, so I guess RoL decided I was in. I hate to disappoint but that means I'm more alive than you'd like. Here are my thoughts so far on the game. Anyone encouraging vigis to take care with their shots is insane. Just go nuts and shoot whoever you like. This means that some people will be really angry with you, but then we just hang those people for mafia. Also, the zodiac or vet lists are completely useless in my opinion. That's like inviting the mafia to contribute without actually contributing. If you feel like making lists you should rather be doing something like listing up the lurkers. Then you're actually useful before we hang you. I'm still catching up, you guys spammed 10 pages while I slept. | ||
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On June 28 2011 15:33 sandroba wrote: @GM Okay, now you are just being silly. Considering this setup you know mafia won't lurk, because lurkers are at an extreme dissavantage regarding everything. If new mafia players lurk, I'm all fine and dandy with it, since our DTs can quickly confirm/nail them. They are unlikely to be chosen GF AND if I read the op correctly only one GF is possible this game. Despite me saying VIGS DO NOT SHOOT LURKERS UNTIL IT BECOMES A PROBLEM I'm sure people will do it and I guarantee you they will all flip town. Do not ecourage them. You are border line pushing mafia objetives now. You're wrong. Vigis should be totally shooting people in the lurker list, because there is no reason for anyone in the game to be in the lurker list. DTs should NOT be checking into the lurker list, as that'd be completely stupid. Let me say this plain and simple. Everyone agrees that ideally, there will be no one on the lurker list, because it's anti-town to be in there, so people who are actually trying to win the game for town will not be in this list. So, that leaves people who are not trying to win the game for town.... voila, shoot them. As for DT checks, using those on the lurker list is stupid. I don't care if mr. mightbecop claims mr. lurker is innocent. The DTs should be focusing completely on scummy people instead. Hopefully, no one will be on the lurker list, so this ought to not be a problem, but if anyone remains there, then I hope a friendly vigi teaches them a good lesson with a bullet. | ||
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This couldn't be any more clear. We have a requirement to post actively and work pro-town in this game. We actually have a specific mechanic to help us identify the people that aren't actively posting. Being on the lurker list is not pro-town. Any town people on the list should really be banned for game-throwing, but aside from that, they should be shot. They should not be DT checked, reserve that for players who actually post but look scummy. And of course medics should already be thinking about their targets, but don't you dare try to direct the medics or I'll hang you. Take it those who deserve it, if you're town, and you end up on the lurker list, you're trying to lose, you're gamethrowing intentionally, you're ruining the game and I hope I never have to play with you again. Obviously, this hopefully won't be a problem, because any town trying to win the game will NOT be on the lurker list, and thus the mafia are forced to not be on it either. All I want for Christmas is an empty lurker list. Shape up people, get posting. And GM, even though I agree with you about lynching lurkers, DropBear's question about your OMGUS vote really needs answering. Why the hell should we trust someone who can't even follow his own policies? | ||
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On June 28 2011 21:35 aprudds wrote: Just woke up, read through the thread and have a bad flu so I apologize in advance if my posts are a bit less coherent. Ok GM, although your plan of shooting lurkers without discrimination has it's pros of eliminating useless townies and forcing scum to contribute more I think your being too hasty and only mention the scenario that townies and scum will be on the lurker lists. Ever consider the possibility that a blue might be lurking to try and keep their head down? If your theory of scum wanting lurkers to stay alive is true, wouldn't that be the perfect place for blues to hide? For that reason I am against your plan of not checking and blindly shooting into the lurker list. If a blue is lurking to try and keep his head down, he's just being a bad blue. What kind of logic is that? Any blue role out there would do their best to look like a green in order to direct mafia shots away from them. I seriously hope we don't have blues hoping to hide from the mafia by lurking, cause that's bad. Even if a blue role is important, his opinions, analysis and thoughts are also important. | ||
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On June 28 2011 21:35 DropBear wrote: Being on the lurker list gives you double the chance to be dt checked, plus double the chance of being vigi'd. What sort of Mafia is going to be stupid enough to be on it? They are already forced to come out into the open. Anyone who IS on the lurker list is in fact MORE likely to be town. No one should be on the lurker list. Of course the mafia isn't going to be there. But there is no reason for town to be there either. you dig? | ||
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a) post fluff, lists and useless shit b) claim veteran c) get lynched. It's hard to analyse people who we know act super scummy as town anyway. But sure, he's the best idea so far, let's bandwagon this thing. | ||
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Find a target, and just kill him. Hey, also, why don't we just hang GM like a proper newbie town? | ||
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On June 29 2011 01:41 Navillus wrote: Hi people, soooo the voting on sinani seems really silly, first off it was declared "let's bandwagon this" which as I understand it is not the town's goal, also this whole thing was started with the apparently 'scummy' opinion that strong leaders are bad, which I totally agree with. If one leader gets too much power/influence and they're either scum or just wrong one too many times then the entire town is screwed by it, town should work as smaller groups and not let 1 person direct the entire agenda. Frankly the attacks on sinani are pretty scummy they put words into his mouth talking about how he wanted to kill leaders and lurkers which 1. they say is contradictory though it isn't (we want people to be between those two, extremes are bad) and 2. He never says that he wants to kill leaders or even that everyone should watch them just that he has personal suspicions of them. I disagree. A strong leader is good for the town, as long as people take everything he says and criticize and analyse it. No one is forcing anyone to follow the leader, so there is no reason to be suspicious of people trying to lead the town. | ||
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On June 29 2011 03:18 DropBear wrote: @MIG First on sinani, you say he has a history about fake contributing as a mafia to blend in. Where are his real contributions this game that distinguish him from this game you mentioned? Jackal has made a grand total of ONE post so far. How can you possibly make a behaviour call based on a single post? It's way too early to do that. You scare me Mr Mig! aprudds please reconsider your vote on TAA. He is being very overenthusiastic yes but there's very low chance he's mafia. He's prodding everyone he thinks is dodgy and is going out of his way to generate discussion. On the contrary DropBear, I don't find him overenthusiastic at all. I really like TAA's playstyle and I think he's doing more to help us than anyone else at the moment. So GM and TAA agree on Hiro Protagonist. What I can tell you about Hiro's meta is that he's usually quite reserved, both as scum and as town. His borderline spam post style in this game is a new thing for me, but it could both be an attempt at improving his town game, or it could be him trying to distance himself from the quiet playstyle he's displayed as mafia. All in all, I kind of like the vote on him. Sinani206 will you please make some kind of a contribution? Can you point us in the direction of a scummy player? | ||
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On June 29 2011 03:55 Kenpachi wrote: sorry im at my friend's house. I'll go read the thread once i get home. BTW, im Kenpachi and Im a Townie. Hi, will you contribute and try to help this game, or just watch the town fail and then ragequit? | ||
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On June 29 2011 04:20 GMarshal wrote: 1.) I am NOT advocating lynching Hiro, just pressuring him. Please don't misrepresent me. 2.) DON'T POST GREEN READS. It only makes them mafia targets and helps us not at all 3.) Please limit your scum list to two people in the interest of concentrating your (and our) focus 4.) 'm not derailing your sinani206 lynch, the case against him ("I don't like leaders") seems to be extremely weak, and it does *not* merit a lynch. If you had a decent case, then you could argue about me derailing your wagon, but I fail to see what distinguishes sinani206 from his clone and a bunch of other posters. Dropbear always does this shit. He was mafia in PTP and I think he posted like 4 analysis in day one. That just doesn't make sense. | ||
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On June 29 2011 04:43 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Who's your number 1 scum read right now? Who do you think needs to contribute more to town (Either in terms of activity or content)? Syllogism is scum. Kenpachi needs to contribute. | ||
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On June 29 2011 04:50 syllogism wrote: Even assuming GM is red, it's fairly unlikely he felt threatened enough to ask his scum team to intervene. There is over 30 hours until lynch and he had one or two votes on him. It's just silly to attempt to find such connections on day 1 and this early. Stop that shit. All you've done all game long is posting neutral blanket statements. | ||
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The main problem is that he isn't really doing anything other than soft-attacking and soft-defending, not commiting to anything. I'm not going to do a post by post analysis because that'd just be me quoting every post of his and saying it's obvious stuff or fluff. Just hit that all button, press ctrl+f and type syllo. Then look through the useless pile of junk he's created. He's given us one good idea though. On June 29 2011 00:12 syllogism wrote: Oh okay so the one who has actually posted something of substance is the suspicious one. The one who has given the new and different format some thought rather than post worthless lists and copy pasted "how town should play" guides. Perfect. My plan for lynch was going to be lynching someone who has posted a lot to avoid being on the lurker list without contributing anything, but unfortunately some players feel the need to post their every single thought, including the fact this is a decent idea if there are no better alternatives present. I even hinted that Dropbear should stop alluding to this plan as it relies on players not actually being aware of it, but he still made another reference. hahahahhahahahahhahahaha I agree bro ##Unvote ##Vote syllogism | ||
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You're so afraid of leading bad lynches or saying something that might be controversial that you're almost definitely scum. | ||
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