On June 25 2011 11:57 aprudds wrote: What will happen if a vigilante or scum kills the lynch target close to the lynch?
Also
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edited to fix color fail.
NO EDITING MOTHERFUCKER jk<3 The second highest voted person would be lynched. I wouldn't modkill no voters for that. The incentive to kill someone about to get lynched is not really there though, they are going to die anyway. The only reason is if you think the second highest guy on the list is medic protected or a veteran and you want him dead anyway. In this case I might limit kills to before the last 6 hours of voting. I will have to think about it.
I don't know I think that killing the lynch target to try to get the second highest voted person adds an interesting dynamic.
The detective rules say that the detective checks two lurkers but then that he gets one lurker check per three days, is that one check of two lurkers per three days?
Hi people, soooo the voting on sinani seems really silly, first off it was declared "let's bandwagon this" which as I understand it is not the town's goal, also this whole thing was started with the apparently 'scummy' opinion that strong leaders are bad, which I totally agree with. If one leader gets too much power/influence and they're either scum or just wrong one too many times then the entire town is screwed by it, town should work as smaller groups and not let 1 person direct the entire agenda. Frankly the attacks on sinani are pretty scummy they put words into his mouth talking about how he wanted to kill leaders and lurkers which 1. they say is contradictory though it isn't (we want people to be between those two, extremes are bad) and 2. He never says that he wants to kill leaders or even that everyone should watch them just that he has personal suspicions of them.
I just caught up and agree with Cthsazsa's analysis but I particularly think that this is weird
On June 29 2011 08:56 Drazerk wrote: Well looks like I am dead, At least when I am dead ill flip green Proving GM is innocent. Was bound to happen as I am always day 1 lynch suspect.
When I die you will be at a disadvantage but at least you will have a Guaranteed Townie. ( Medics better defend him don't let my death be in vain )
I'm off to bed
He suddenly not only doesn't think that GM is scum, but somehow came to the conclusion that he is a confirmed innocent, then lays it on pretty heavy
Proving GM is innocent
you will have a Guaranteed Townie
Medics better defend him don't let my death be in vain
And I actually think that this is him trying to pretend that he's all close with GM so if/when he flips red we attack GM deciding that they were together, the conclusion of this being: GM is probably town if Drazerk flips red.
On June 28 2011 11:59 Eiii wrote: he's just taking advantage of the lurker-killing mechanic to softclaim a KP role, I wouldn't worry about it too much.
Don't worry about him at all!
Everyone who has been accusing others of making contentless posts, I give you Fluff 101 by it's Honorary Professor, Eiii!
On June 28 2011 13:46 youngminii wrote: Varpulis, you're a GMarshal clone, your post is exactly like his opening post.
Which is pretty ironic if you put it that way.
Anyway, I find myself really not understanding these early days. A few players like to make big posts about how town should play, what down should watch out for, pro-town environment etc but they pretty much all say the same thing. They all seem to have more purpose than content-- that is, they're supposed to establish the posters as big names for people to pay attention to or follow throughout the game. And to be honest, the showiness puts me off a bit. If you're just going to say what everyone's heard before, why do it so loudly?
I promised myself I'd post my thoughts more, so there they are :B
Lists are whatever, they just let blues who don't know what's going on fall into the hands of a) mafia or b) some nice green dude.
He brings up "pro-town play", lists and flashy posters yet fails to give any opinion on whether he likes or dislikes them other than "puts me off a bit". You don't seem to want to tell us what you think Eiii! Your thoughts you promise are simply a list of all possible outcomes!
On June 28 2011 17:04 GMarshal wrote: Hint mafia *isn't* spamming, they are making simple posts that aren't quite lurking, but that serve no purpose, fluffy posts to be clear.
Isn't this exactly what he's accusing hiro of doing? The guy has ~7 posts in the thread, and as TAA points out most aren't stellar contributions.
On June 29 2011 08:06 Eiii wrote: A agree with sandroba on this one-- though syll hasn't been super active or anything, none of his posts make me feel like he's trying hard to stay off the radar. After reading people's thoughts on drazerk and looking through his posts though, I can't say I get the same vibe from him. It even feels like people are trying to divert attention away from him at the moment, so that's where I'll hang my votehat for now.
##Vote: Drazerk
I covered this in my analysis of the voting on Drazerk. His reason for voting Drazerk is completely contradictory to what is actually happening!
CONCLUSION
Eiii is hiding like crazy! He says nothing at all! He is trying to keep people off his scumbuddy GMarshal! He is bandwagoning with very poor reasoning! Now that sinani and Marshal aren't under any pressure anymore he disappears without a trace!
I'd just like to say that I really don't like a case on one person (GM) based on the actions of another (Eiii) I think it makes way too big assumptions and opens us up to scum purposely pretending to be tight with townies, like I think that Drazerk was doing. This especially because, while I don't know the meta here that well, it seems to me that GM would be the best or one of the best people on the scum team and so would tell everyone else to stay away from him because they would be much more likely to slip than he would.
On June 30 2011 00:40 Sinani201 wrote: Drazerk has posts that give off scumtells. For Viscera, it's a lack of posts.
I don't understand why the bandwagon against Drazerk is a bad thing. A lot of people are voting for him. That just means Cthsasa's analysis against him was good. It's not OMGUS, it's just agreement.
Also I want this to be emphasized about Drazerk. I actually when I was catching up and saw the bandwagon forming went back to look at his posts and the analysises on him with the strong mindset that he was not guilty, 1. because I think bandwagons this early aren't great and 2. Because I consciously didn't want to look like some lurker who was just jumping on the easy bandwagon, but after reading Cthsazsa's analysis and even more so Drazerk's response, he looks really scummy. The analysis has great points but I think that he really shows scumminess in his follow-up, he martyrs and, as I pointed out before, switches from GM is scummy, to GM isn't, to HE'S A CONFIRMED INNOCENT, which I really think there was no warrant for as a townie and makes little to no sense.
On June 30 2011 01:31 Navillus wrote: I'd just like to say that I really don't like a case on one person (GM) based on the actions of another (Eiii) I think it makes way too big assumptions and opens us up to scum purposely pretending to be tight with townies, like I think that Drazerk was doing. This especially because, while I don't know the meta here that well, it seems to me that GM would be the best or one of the best people on the scum team and so would tell everyone else to stay away from him because they would be much more likely to slip than he would.
Hi Navillus.
You have three posts in the thread, none of them containing much useful stuff. You parroted something someone else said about Drazerk, but that's it.
I want your opinion on who might be scum, not on how mafia might play. If you take note you'll see that I left you out of my big post on the town. This means you haven't contributed anything of value, which makes you i turn impossible to analyse, and thus it's anti-town.
Please, take interest in the game.
At present you're probably skirting the lurker list. If you end on it you deserve to be shot.
First, I'm pretty sure my point about Drazerk was not me parroting, I don't think anyone else pointed out that he might've been trying to frame GM, and if someone did I didn't see it, but to contributing I'll go back through the thread and see who I'm suspicious of, hopefully soon. (I'm really busy IRL right now sorry)
Oh wow I almost missed myself getting shot >< My first game and I don't even last a day Town win it for meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee (also I'm not lurking so much that I didn't come back to the thread til now, I just forgot to post this earlier)
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