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GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 21 2011 21:02 GMT
#20
I hate no-flip games, but I'd also hate to miss this. Plus the many meanings of the game name makes me chuckle.

Reluctant /in
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 23 2011 03:17 GMT
#28
On June 22 2011 06:02 GGQ wrote:
I hate no-flip games, but I'd also hate to miss this. Plus the many meanings of the game name makes me chuckle.

Reluctant /in


Guess my reluctance made you think I didn't really want to play.

Enthusiastic /in! :D
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 25 2011 02:57 GMT
#45
On June 25 2011 11:30 Radfield wrote:
I would vote for 9 or 10 EST.... but maybe that's too early for most folks.


I approve of these times!
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 25 2011 03:11 GMT
#48
On June 25 2011 12:06 GMarshal wrote:
so, I can start posting game relevant stuff now, right?


Quick, GMarshal, make yourself look like a townie before you get your role PM!
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 25 2011 04:20 GMT
#53
/confirm

Well, GMarshal, my first thought was that you waited until you knew your alignment before posting that. Did you not want to post that if you rolled mafia?
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 25 2011 05:56 GMT
#67
On June 25 2011 13:35 GMarshal wrote:
Why does no one comment on my post?

I take it from the silence that we are all ok with lynching Chez then, right? No one seems to be complaining...

And my policies are now accepted by all, right?


Sure, I have one major problem that leaps out immediately from your policies. Your policy number one is to ignore all role claims. Your policy number two is based on specifically NOT ignoring a role claim. Wuddup wit dat?

In a more general sense, I have a problem with your policy of having policies. I find policies restrictive and in my experience different situations require situational judgement. If you want to stress that role claims are very unreliable in this setup and we should be highly skeptical of them, I approve. If you want to make a "policy" that we all have to ignore them, I disapprove.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 25 2011 20:03 GMT
#103
It's been brushed over, but I just want to stress real quick that a 'no lynch' is not nearly as damaging to town when it's no flip and scum has only 1kp. Obviously we can't get in the habit of doing it, but we shouldn't be treating it as taboo.

Also, on a personal note, let's make sure we are all engaging with the game right away rather than waiting until we are at 9 players left and wondering if it's lylo.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 25 2011 20:05 GMT
#104
On June 26 2011 05:02 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 03:57 GMarshal wrote:

We lynch the DT first as a deterrent to scum plans that revolve around getting one last lynch. We don't know what wonky powers the mafia might have this game, so the last thing we want is a situation where we are at lylo without knowing it an the mafia have to force a mislynch. If we maintain the policy of lynching the DT first then we deter any such situation. This is especially important because we have no way to confirm that what a coroner is telling us is true. It would be a ballsy move, but mafia could potentially claim DT and have a second member "confirm" them with a coroner check. Its different if the coroner has the results appear in the day post, but even so it might be manipulable.

Basically with no way to verify anyone's role we need to lynch claimed DTs first to stop power plays from the mafia.

Maybe its me being paranoid, but it seems to me that Ace's games are always punctuated by scum trying to carry off incredible plays. I'm trying to safeguard against situations like that. If we lynch the DT first we guarantee that nothing odd is going on.



This doesn't really make sense to me. Scum already have a deterent to false claiming dt, in that they will be trading 1 for 1. There is only potential upside to lynching the dt second, as we may be able to verify via a coroner. Yes it's possible/likely that we won't be able to verify the dt, but it's worth trying. Obviously at LYLO things change though. I can't see any potential upside to killing the dt first.


He's suggesting that mafia in this game may have some unforeseen powers that will let them get some blitz kills in unexpectedly (a la Toy Factory Mafia also hosted by Ace). This would allow Mafia to pull some kind of power play by fake DT claiming to get the last lynch they need before pulling out their unexpected blitzing powers, with town unaware that it's actually lylo the whole time.

Personally, I think it's a misguided fear, but hopefully that clears it up.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 25 2011 20:24 GMT
#107
On June 26 2011 05:07 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 05:03 GGQ wrote:
It's been brushed over, but I just want to stress real quick that a 'no lynch' is not nearly as damaging to town when it's no flip and scum has only 1kp. Obviously we can't get in the habit of doing it, but we shouldn't be treating it as taboo.

Also, on a personal note, let's make sure we are all engaging with the game right away rather than waiting until we are at 9 players left and wondering if it's lylo.


No lynch is bad for town. Town gains NOTHING from no-lynching. Period.

We have a 0% chance of lynching mafia if we don't lynch.
We have a slightly higher % chance of lynching mafia if we do.

Lynching is a town weapon. Don't disable it or suggest disabling it. I fail to see how no lynch at any point in the game is helpful in this setup.


Mmm yeah, I didn't phrase that as well as I could have. I didn't mean to suggest that we should consider it as a valid option. It's still bad, just less bad than it is in a more standard game.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 25 2011 20:54 GMT
#109
On June 26 2011 05:41 Fishball wrote:
Why are we discussing Day 1 lynch so much for now? It's a Night 0 start, and a lot can develop over to Day 1.


If you have another thing to suggest that we talk about, suggest it!

But some talk is better than no talk.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 25 2011 22:41 GMT
#114
On June 26 2011 07:23 Kurumi wrote:
Assuming we have Coroner type role should it target lynched people or night kills so we know how many blues or townies died ? Should vigi kills have the same priority as lynches ? Id like to avoid viging anyone though ,unless we are dead sure someone's scum .


My natural assumption is that any coroners should be checking our lynches, so we get information about who pushed and defended who, etc. We get less information if we check night kills.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 25 2011 22:45 GMT
#115
On June 26 2011 06:53 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 06:15 deconduo wrote:
On June 26 2011 05:41 Fishball wrote:
Why are we discussing Day 1 lynch so much for now? It's a Night 0 start, and a lot can develop over to Day 1.


So why not suggest something else to talk about isntead of popping into the thread to shoot down the current discussion and just disappear?


First, I only asked a question regarding the logic behind this Day 1 lynch discussion on a Night 0 start. This is far from "shooting down the current discussion". For all I care, you guys can just ignore what I said and continue. Hell we only have 6 hours or so left.

Second, if you're too dumb to figure out a better topic, that's your problem. Like I said, I asked a question; I'm not here to give answers.


-1 point for questioning the value of discussion without bringing up another topic
-1 point for insulting other posters
-1 point for outright refusing to contribute. 'I'm not here to give answers' ... ??? Yeah you kind of are, unless you don't want town to win.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
June 27 2011 04:16 GMT
#162
whyyyyyy
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
July 09 2011 10:41 GMT
#1190
On July 09 2011 19:21 Scamp wrote:
I'm really confused. What the hell happened to my body and what did you maniacs do with it?

Also wondering why I was hit night 1. Not that I minded since I was VT but still curious about why.


Presumably RoL janitor'ed you.

BTW, I protted RoL on night 0 as a peace offering for getting him lynched in XLII. Then the bastard shot me luls.
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