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This game starts 02:00 am my time, I won't contribute anything till I wake up in the morning (around 6-8 hours after game starts). | ||
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If you're a Veteran you should claim now. The mafia doesn't have anything to frame or set up our cop, so all we have to do is to check you on night1 and we have a confirmed veteran townie, along with a lot of useful information. The mafia would have to use two nights if they wanted to get rid of him, and it doesn't even provide a target for the roleblocker to stop. If we only have one claim for a veteran we don't even need to waste a cop night action on the guy. If he looks scummy we can always just lynch him later on. Main thing is that we get a ton of information from a veteran claim. | ||
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Also, Mataza is scum. | ||
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On June 05 2011 06:13 youngminii wrote: You bring up a plan to create discussion while knowing it was completely bullshit, then you tell everyone to ignore the idea (making the discussion null and void anyway)? That's completely retarded, big FoS, if all the inactives come back before the end of the day my vote goes to you. I'm putting a bigger FoS on you, because I feel like it. look at it, it's so big. | ||
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##Unvote: Mataza ##Vote: youngminii He has a funny hat. And he FoS'd me. | ||
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Let's do this, we do not have much discussion, but at least we have something and almost everyone has by this point contributed a post or two that can be analysed. Youngminii is giving me town vibes. Even if he agreed with a plan that's bad, he seemed to be doing it for the right reasons, not the wrong ones. He's active, although I would've liked him to just actually cast a vote against me instead of doing the whole "FoS" thing. I like aggressive town behavior, cause I feel it puts people on the ropes faster. I think we ought to not lynch him tonight. Hesmyrr is another guy I feel I need to talk about. He seems pro-town, but with his replacement, he becomes infinitely harder to read. This is a good target for a cop check, I think. Again, not a good lynch target. Mataza is weird this game. This observation is purely based on meta, but normally Mataza is both aggressive and borderline crazy. He suggest crazy plans, draws weird logic conclusions and attacks people left and right. This game he has been playing very carefully, to the point where he's using meta to defend himself, see here: On June 04 2011 23:40 Mataza wrote: Yes, it´s quite sensible really. With my normal start I was widely perceived as random and scummy, which is not good for my play whatsoever. I could of course say it´s only good for my town play, but that would be deceiving you. As Scum, lynching me is obviously what I don´t want. As Town, lynching me would be a mislynch and that´s also bad for town. Also Prplhz get a grip on yourself. Since this setup has no PMs, claims are just a bad play. I only advocated claims in SNM2 because we could deduce the exact setup. Here, we have to do it by plain old scumhunting. For example tomorrow we know the kill of night 1. Now for example if I would drop dead, it would make Palmar a suspect. Then again you can go by the fact that Palmar wouldn´t be that straightforward and look for someone who furthered an argument between us 2 without getting himself involved. Just like Giygas Vanilla vs Vanilla as working assumption, all in favor? I think Mataza might be a good lynch target tonight, but there's one other I'd rather lynch I mean, it is only his third game, so one could argue that this is just him trying to step up his game, but this is also mine, stefftastiq's and prplhz's third game. Which brings me to stefftastiq and prplhz. I feel really uneasy about both of them. Stefftastiq is once again, very careful, something I know he does as town, but I would assume that at some point he would step up his game. prplhz seems less useful than I'd expect of him, but maybe he was doing the same thing as me and waiting to post some analysis today, now that we've got information. Also, he suspects my prime suspect, so that helps him  Second post coming in. | ||
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Last person I wanna talk about is sinani206. He has contributed almost absolutely nothing to this game. He created a damn list of post-counts, and he's updating us with vote-counts. This is the lamest excuse for activity I have ever seen. My previous attitude of randomly calling out people for lynching was even more useful than those damn lists. I'm not going to include his lists in this. On June 04 2011 12:48 sinani206 wrote: Yes I completely agree, but if we don't have any outstandingly scummy players there is no point in choosing the scummiest player (who might not be very scummy at all) over a player with one post and an unexplained vote. Wanting to lynch inactive players is a terrible way to play day 1. Wanting to push inactive or useless people, like has been done to me and stefftastiq is a good way to play. You never want to end up lynching the inactive, cause it's almost guaranteed that you'll end up killing a bored townie. The end vote should much rather go to someone who is actively lurking, but not contributing. Do you know who I'm talking about? On June 04 2011 13:58 sinani206 wrote: Varpulis, why did you change your mind so quickly after Hesmyrr posted? More "contributions". On June 05 2011 13:40 sinani206 wrote: He only responds to people and does not contribute to the discussion at all. He talks about some joke that obviously does not have to do with the current game, and then asks me and Mataza some silly questions. There had not been too much wrong with Mataza's play at this point in time, so I don't see why he begins metagaming with his first post. His question toward me was particularly pointless, because I specifically stated that it was a list of players who had not posted since the Day 1 post. I obviously could not name myself in the list because by posting the list I myself would be posting. Silly filler questions to help his active lurking regimen. ##Vote stefftastiq I don't really understand your motives here. You are much more of an active lurker than Stefftastiq, and you actually have a good history of being useful as town, so I'm very suspicious of you. Stefftastiq's meta suggests that he's very careful even when he's town, so while that doesn't clear him by any stretch of the imagination, it certainly pushes my suspicion rather towards you, seeing I know you're capable of very strong town play. And that's it. Sinani206 pointed out that he has a lot of posts, as that would somehow absolve him of suspicion, but it's just bullshit. He's posting a ton, pushing for lynch on people that don't post, but nothing he's posting has any content at all. I don't think he would've changed his posting habits if someone hadn't pushed him hard like I'm doing now. We will probably get a "useful" post from him in wake of this. Let's see just how useful it is. ##Unvote Youngminii ##Vote Sinani206 | ||
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Also, nice catch on unichan. I think we should definitely keep an eye on him to see if he raises the bar with his posting. | ||
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I'm glad you actually stuck a vote on me this time though, even if the thought process behind it is flawed, at least you're aggressive enough this time to at least have a hope of creating discussion. Congratulations. The reason you want to hit people is because they behave in a way that scum should behave. The thought process you should be going through is "If I were scum, would I be posting this". Only Mataza and Sinani206 fit my bill when I went through the thread. I would try to play somewhat like them if I was the scum. Now, you may not agree with my methods to the point you're willing to vote me off for them, but can you honestly go through my posts and say "this is how I'd post if I was scum". If you can, then keep doing your thing man. | ||
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On June 06 2011 01:21 youngminii wrote: ... what is this really I'm gunning for you because your reasoning/play has been scummy so far, it doesn't have anything to do with whether I agree or disagree with your 'methods'. Also, less belittlement please. Basically your post had no real content. You reaffirm your belief that lynching inactives is stupid, yet you never disagreed with anyone about it earlier. There are plenty of people other than sinani advocating the inactive lynch, including myself, yet you don't even consider this in your crusade against sinani. Then you go on and post a bunch of bullshit for the sake of content. No, you are definitely the scummiest in this town. killing the most inactive player is stupid. if you had actually bothered to read my analysis you'd see the main foundation is sinani's useless non-content posts and his active lurking. feel free to provide an alternative, but at least man up and base your accusation on something other than "you're scummy". i've stepped up my game. it's your turn | ||
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On June 06 2011 06:00 Varpulis wrote: Sinani claimed it was an error in copying from his excel spreadsheet, iirc. Palmar started on Mataza, switched to youngminii, hasn't changed his vote since. Incorrect. Following my actual analysis on sinani206, I switched my vote to him. I think youngminii is town, but I can't be sure. I still think Mataza is acting kinda scummy, but sinani feels like the right thing at the moment, we don't need a town accountant to tell us vote scores and keep a list of inactive players. | ||
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Sinani206 hadn't contributed anything, but his death seems to come too easily... I don't know. | ||
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