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Jackal58
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Jackal58
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On June 04 2011 07:27 GGQ wrote: I hate to be 'that guy' who makes a goodbye post and then comes back a couple weeks later... but dammit I miss this shit. /in I would NEVER do that. | ||
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Jackal58
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On June 04 2011 08:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Signups are closed. Game will start tomorrow. Sorry I haven't been on top of this guys, I have SATs tomorrow morning and am SUPER stressed out. I stressed out over them once. In the grand scheme of things they don't mean much. Relax and realize you know what you know and stressing isn't going to do anything but stress you. Good luck with them though. | ||
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Jackal58
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On June 05 2011 22:36 Pyo wrote: As a noob, it's somewhat difficult to distinguish "talkative" from "spammy". I just threw out a vote for you since (A) I want/need to get my vote out while I can (B) voting for someone who noone else is going to vote for is tantamount to abstaining (C) as someone who definitely has played mafia before, I assumed that amongst noobs, you'd be adequately adept at defending yourself if suspicion actually turned to you (D) I made a post indicating that my vote for you was joke if anything, but since you seem offended i'll change my vote. Also, just out of curiosity, since the game wasn't filled only with noobs, how many people here actually have mafia experience? I have played 1 or 2 games with iGrok and Kurumi. Numerous games with GGQ. Kurumi's assertion that I am very good is a bit off the mark. I'm actually pretty average at best. Day 1 & 2 I pretty much suck. I'm better towards end game but I usually don't live that long. Kurumi is insane. I've never seen anybody tunnel the entire player roster at one time before.  iGrok I really don't have an opinion on yet. Seems capable. GGQ is scum. If I don't do that at least once a game he'd be disappointed.(That's a joke) The rest of you I do not know. I promised Meapak I'd be good this game.  Don't worry about "offending" somebody by voting for them. If they're that easily offended they need to go watch Barney or Teletubbies. | ||
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Jackal58
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On June 05 2011 23:08 Pyo wrote:Are people actually vindictive in mafia? Wouldn't that draw too much attention to themselves? Either way, my apologies, don't kill me off too quick Yes. Very much so. And it goes from game to game. As most of you are new I don't expect to see much of it in this game but people do carry grudges and exact revenge in their next game together. The most likely thing you will see here is some townie with a vig role shooting anther townie that just pissed him off. That happens when a noob has a gun. Just because you don't like somebody doesn't mean they are scum. If you are a vig please don't allow emotion to pull the trigger. | ||
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Jackal58
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He was lynched day one in the first game I played with him. He has outed himself as our SK in the second game I've played with him. Don't assume he's experienced. He's not. | ||
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On June 06 2011 01:27 DeMorcerf wrote:I do not understand what you mean by this, sorry. Can you clarify whether "insane" is a good thing or a bad thing in this context; and what does "tunnel the roster" mean? Insane as in crazy. Not good at all. Tunneling is when you pick one player and call him/her scum for the entire game. Kurumi has taken it to an entirely new level. | ||
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On June 06 2011 04:22 rookie44 wrote: Hey guys, This is all getting a bit out of hand, we seem to already be getting in each others faces over perceived (and real) sleights. I have only played mafia on battle.net, and this is going to be quite a different game to that. What i believe is the crucial difference is that we have large amounts of time for discussion. This also gives us the time to create a solid plan for using whatever roles we have effectively (it would seem that way). Maybe some of the more experienced players could expand on what investigative stratagies they have used; their pitfalls, and how we may evade those pitfalls. Perhaps an added benifit will be that it will be very tricky for a mafia to come up with a generalized stratagy that is grounded in reason, so maybe there will be some suspiciously quiet people. (I assume it will be difficult for a generalized stratagy becasue i can only see the mafia being able to take advantage of a specific stratagy by getting their peolpe in the right places). Day 1 in a game this size is always a cluster fuck. Things will start to sort themselves out after day is over. Fishing for blues is a scummy thing to do. So don't do it. There are a variety of things town can do that have the ability to catch scum. I am not going to share them though. If I do that scum won't fall for them. PM games are easier to set up traps but they aren't impossible in a non PM game. Scum have the advantage of information and communication. If you post the link to your scum channel it would give everybody new to the game a chance to see how you operate. | ||
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On June 06 2011 04:34 Pyo wrote:So how common is it for townies to vote for/ lynch day1 people that they just don't like or find annoying? I mean in the face no real evidence for or against anyone is it worth it to eliminate inactive or annoying players? It happens. Not a lot but it happens. Vigis shooting people they don't like also happens. I hate when it happens. Mafia is first and foremost a numbers game. When town can stay ahead of the curve town wins. When people start pushing for lynches because somebody is a pain in the ass (Guilty) it puts town in a very bad position. | ||
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On June 06 2011 04:36 aprudds wrote: Although I can understand most of your points, don't you think there needs to be a way of keeping track of inactives? It's a 40 person game and without some type of spreadsheet or list it will be hard to keep track of the lurkers. I think your taking it too personally. If you don't like the list he made why not contribute to it so we can all keep track of everyone instead of jumping the gun? Inactives will be mod killed. Not worth tracking. It's lurkers you want to keep a tab on. People that post just the minimum. They usually pop in to proclaim they aren't lurking right after you mention their name. Those are the ones you want to watch for. Also the ones that post excuses in advance. I'm not talking about a guy that says on day 3 "I won't be able to get online until tomorrow night" I'm talking about the ones that come in and say "I have finals this week so I'll not be very active" Dunno if you see the difference or not but if you can't play why did you sign up? | ||
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Jackal58
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Voting rules: 1. Voting is done in a separate thread, located here. Please keep votes there, and only vote there. Do not PM me your vote. 2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update vote counts whenever I get the chance. 3. No conditional voting. 4. You may not vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game. 5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first wins (or loses). 6. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain. | ||
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On June 06 2011 18:06 Pyo wrote: After reading the posts up to now, I am reasonably confident that freeloader is probably a townie and the ambiguity of early accusers and their motivations means that there's not much to be learned from lynching him, although it might be inevitable at this point. Since his post in his defense haven't really been all that constructive anyway it isn't really a big loss, so I'm not gonna fight it. The players that I find annoying are by far Haiku boy and Kurumi. So if ever I'm undecided about who to vote for it'll probably be one of them. I think it is interesting to note all the little 1v1 bickering going on, the most recent example of which is between iGrok and gtrsrs. I think it is reasonable to assume that two mafia wouldn't orchestrate a mini feud this early on, which means that either both are town or only one is town. So combining my last 2 paragraphs, I think I'm gonna have to change my vote to iGrok. See my previous post on annoying players. If you are going to approach this game as an exercise in the elimination of those that annoy you I will be more than happy to arrange for your lynching. We're not here to lynch people that annoy us. We're here to kill scum. Put your ego in a box and get your head in the game please. You'll probably find me to be much more annoying than iGrok. And I don't do haiku. | ||
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On June 06 2011 21:57 iGrok wrote: Hey Jackal, good to see you again. Mind going over my Kurumi analysis? I couldn't analyze Kurumi to save my life. We need a psychiatrist for that. He is playing identically to the other two games I have had the pleasure of being in with him. His posts do at times contain substance but it's very hard to pick out from all the background noise. I think our best bet with him is to watch his voting history. He will eventually call all of us scum before this game is over so his FoS posts are pretty much useless. | ||
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On June 06 2011 22:52 amazingxkcd wrote: As his post concerning kurumi 's behavior had helped, i am concerned with this statement. iGrok has listed a couple of seasoned players whom he reconizes for their experiences, but here he is already jumping to the conclusion that he had no reason to suspect them, especially jackal whom only made a post spectulating. It seems to be that iGrok is quite convinced that kurumi is a scum as he already asked for a dt check rather than trust the dts to make the right decisions. About jackal, i do not know much about him as he has not stated a lot yet, but iGrok is showing us that he is in league with jackal as from the podt above. As of now, i do not want to label iGrok as scum, and i'd rather wait until later to see what jackal says and how the game flows, but iGrok is still suspicious. If iGrok is convicted as scum, then that puts pressure on jackal to respond. Day one and two I don't post a lot of analysis. I'm pretty much clueless. I will ask questions. I will point out discrepancies and misinterpretations. Day 1 I like to pick one or two players and tunnel the hell out of them. I'm looking for reactions. Not just from the person I'm tunneling but from everybody else as well. Scum love when I tunnel. I love when they vote for my victim. I usually don't have a lynch worthy case on them until day 3 though. I also promised Meapak I'd behave myself this game so I'm not going to do that because my tunneling style is quite aggressive and abrasive. I've been known to make people rage. As far as connecting iGrok and myself good luck with that. You might as well connect everybody that has asked another player a question. Kurumi is an excellent DT check. He's damn near impossible to read. I would also point out that it is entirely likely that of the 3 or 4 people in this game (myself included) that do have experience playing here at least 1 of them is on the scum team. That person isn't me but don't take my word for it. If I were scum I'd lie to you in a heartbeat. Just bear that in mind if you guys feel compelled to lynch me or scum kills me at night. When I flip green look really hard at GGQ and iGrok. | ||
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On June 06 2011 23:50 Kurumi wrote: Because it's terrible lynch based on "he asked question townie would never ask" evidence. His lynch will give no info and there are more scummy people here to lynch. Who? I'm not calling Freeloader scum I'm asking you who in your opinion is scummier? | ||
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