On May 28 2011 07:34 tnkted wrote:
I am so in broseph. /in

Somebody give me a bus driving role where I can bus myself and I'll love you forever

Someone should give you the bus driver role where you always need to bus yourself :D

Eternalmisfit

United States643 Posts

May 29 2011 14:38 GMT

#86

A couple of questions:

1. Will the complete role list be made public after all the roles have been assigned? If yes, would it be just the role title or role description also?

2. In the event of hosts making a change to any role for being imbalanced or having potential issues, would the person who originally made the role be informed about it?

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United States643 Posts

May 29 2011 20:07 GMT

#111

Sent my role as well. Not sure whether the person who gets it will like or hate it.

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United States643 Posts

May 29 2011 21:00 GMT

#120

If we only had Kavdragon to lynch on Day1.

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United States643 Posts

May 30 2011 18:45 GMT

#185

On May 31 2011 03:31 deskscaress wrote:

i'm not a kid, i'm not a smurf, i'm not a troll, and i'm not a newbie
i play a ton on epicmafia and i host a mafia forum myself
i'm just new to THIS site in particular

good to know we've got people who are ready to policy-lynch before anything has even been posted tho

Welcome to TL and mafia forum

I doubt Varp was serious about the policy-lynch per se. If you read the pre-game banter, there have been a lot of messing around going on.

As long as you are active, do not get mod-killed, and follow the game rules listed in OP, I don't think you have any problems here.

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United States643 Posts

May 30 2011 19:02 GMT

#189

Role PM received.

I am guessing it is still 2 hours from the official game start.

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United States643 Posts

May 30 2011 20:22 GMT

#226

Bumatlarge is scum since Batman is mafia.

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United States643 Posts

May 30 2011 20:32 GMT

#245

@Sandroba

I do not fully agree with the first idea. I don't think we should discuss the type of roles we gave out or who we gave out the role to as it allows scum to narrow out who gave them the role. This is bad for the town as as long as the scum do not know who gave them the role, they are not in a position to fake claim.

Once scum knows who gave them the role, they can wait till that person dies or take that person out and fake claim after that.

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United States643 Posts

May 30 2011 20:42 GMT

#271

On May 31 2011 05:41 redFF wrote:
I'm sorry but could someone explain how all of town saying who they gave their role to helps us in any way?

I don't think anyone except sandroba is alright with that plan at this point.

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United States643 Posts

May 30 2011 21:48 GMT

#393

I am assuming that the zodiac list is something akin to this idea (since I can't find anything else that is close to the zodiac list).

Zodiac list

A confirmation on this would be good so that I can think about who all should be include in it or not.

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United States643 Posts

May 30 2011 22:39 GMT

#430

As far as zodiac list in concerned: I think I would include BC, Bumatlarge, and GMarshal in the list.

I have never seen BC in a game but following the mafia forums the past couple of months are enough to show that he is strong player.
I have seen Bumatlarge and GMarshal show strong play in the last few games I have followed around here.

@GMarshal
1. At this point, I am not getting a town read on anyone per se.
2. I would say Barundar would possibly be the one.

Eternalmisfit

United States643 Posts

May 30 2011 23:26 GMT

#456

On May 31 2011 08:08 kitaman27 wrote:

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Next person that posts a list gets lynched.

Care to explain why you think that the zodiac lists are bad? I also find it interesting that you complain about spam while the entirety of your posting in this thread is fluff.

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United States643 Posts

May 30 2011 23:49 GMT

#471

On May 31 2011 08:40 redFF wrote:
Ok, I'm gonna claim.
I'm an interrogator. What is that? I can vote somebody to be lynched, and I will be allowed to exchange pm's with the person I voted for the rest of the day.
I'm going to vote Amber so I can talk to him and get to the bottom of this whole situation.
I don't see anybody else who i feel like pm'ing today to be perfectly honest.
My role is not that powerful, I am not a powerful player. Me claiming can only be good for town. Scum won't hit me(I think) because my role is far less powerful than some of the other roles currently in play. They also have far better/more experienced people to hit than me. If anyone has a problem with my claim please say so, but i feel like this is the correct decision to make at this stage.

If it is true, it is a really bad role claim. I can think of multiple situations where this role can be rather powerful. Even in the case you wanted to talk to Amber, I don't think you should have role-claimed.

Well, what's done is done. I hope you do not get hit by lightning and no one else follows suit in pointless role-claims. :|

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United States643 Posts

May 31 2011 01:35 GMT

#538

A couple of requests/suggestions:

Firstly, can people also please vote in the main thread in addition to the PTP voting thread? If everyone does this, it allows the town to track the bandwagon and lurking voters and can call out people on obviously scummy vote switches.

Secondly, regardless of the alignment of Palmar, I would recommend people avoid 'bro-fisting' (or whatever) him. If he is town, I think between Node, GM, and tnkted; he should have enough options to use his powers wisely. If he is scum, I don't think we should provide him with additional potential kill targets (with a suicide bomb/admiral akbar type ability).

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United States643 Posts

May 31 2011 01:47 GMT

#553

On May 31 2011 10:45 Cthsazsa wrote:
I honestly believe redFF's roleclaim. Meapak, if you are FoSing him because of that, please start tunneling him or something. The only reason why I think you would FoS him is because you're the man who gave him a role.
No one has countered redFF's claim, so I think it's safe to say we drop that?

Just because it is likely that we can confirm redFF's role does not mean it also confirms his alignment.

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United States643 Posts

May 31 2011 03:41 GMT

#603

Regardless of redFF alignment, I am hesitant on lynching him on the first day. He is the only one who's role is semi-confirmed at this point (the only way his role is something else is that Amber and red are both scum).

Also, his role is pro-town in nature which can be out to good use if the town controls his role usage. As long as his role powers are controlled by the town, it is unlikely that he is a direct threat to the town (given the fact mafia KP is constant irrespective number of scum alive).

This, of course is dependent on the fact that his role is limited to PM's and does not have any additional powers. Even if it has additional powers, I doubt he can use PM and the extra power together (since that seems to break the role strength). So, as long as we have to force him to use him PM ability everyday, I don't think he can harm the town.

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United States643 Posts

May 31 2011 04:29 GMT

#620

On May 31 2011 12:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

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Seriously stop talking about roles. They serve no purpose. If he is mafia, his role is pro mafia. If he is town, its pro town. IT does not matter if town controls where he uses it. If he is mafia he can easily manipulate someone into giving him information they shouldnt. If he is town he could link to a mafia and be manipulated into giving out info.

Stop talking about roles. It is not constructive day 1, nor helpful. Roles do not win games for town, analysis and townies do.

I was talking about the role since it was the only role claimed and that event was the basis of the argument against a person. However, I can see your point of view and will not bring in the 'role' part in the discussion again (unless I think it is of specific relevance to the analysis).

In terms of today activity, between the dog speak, role claim, and zodiac lists, there hasn't been too much useful discussion in the town. I have seen only two note-worthy suspicious activities till now:

1. Sandroba's plan of people claiming whom they picked the role for - which was unanimously vetoed as a dumb idea by the town. Given Sandroba's play in previous games, it is suspicious that he is unable to see how bad this plan is. Also, he conveniently went MIA once his plan was down by the town. This, by itself, doesn't make him scum but it is something to keep in mind when analyzing his later play.

2. As for the 2nd one, I plan to keep an eye on the second person and read more of his posts before makes an analysis on him tomorrow.

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United States643 Posts

May 31 2011 14:06 GMT

#701

On May 31 2011 09:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
@Palmar
Given the nature of the game, I'm wary of giving you any kind of pounding of fists until I understand your role better, no offense....so don't ask.

@everyone making lists
Stop it. Unless it's a list about the happenings INSIDE THIS THREAD, I for one am NOT interested. I'm assuming EVERYONE is EQUALLY badass at this game...and as such, everyone would be on my list. If you want to make a list, make a list of instances x player contradicted himself in posts in this game...or a list of people that Palmar has tried to get a bro-fist from. These are more telling than lists of people who may or may not be good mafia members in theory.

On May 31 2011 15:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
I might loathe myself in the morning, but with company like GM, Node and tnkted so far...

#fistpound Palmar

On May 31 2011 15:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
ebwodp:

Consider that my way of saying gg for SNMMII

Care to explain this sudden change of heart on two accounts:

1. Fistpounding Palmar while strongly advocating against it - scum trying to fit in as town? Or scum trying to get into a potential PM circle?

2. I thought you were only interested in what was happening in this game. Why is company 'like' GM, Node, tnkted important? They haven't done anything noteworthy as of yet in this game.

Also why bring in the gg from SNMM II in this game if you think stuff from outside this game has no relevance here. Seems like you are trying too hard to be in the good books of Palmar now.