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InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
Last Edited: 2002-10-07 19:00:54
October 07 2002 18:58 GMT
#1
I seen This topic posted on other forums and see people write about it. I was woundering what you guys had to say about it. So Will we see ProGameing Grow to the LvL it has in korea anywhere in world? I personal I Love watching it and hope it dose . I can see it happening just cuss there money to be made in it. Companys target teens to young adults the most dont they? Well that 90% of the what, 1 million Bw players? Its fun to watch So if it gets on T.V then i think Boxer will be whereing Nikes as They show him clicking away But im a newb who cant spell what do i know .
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
halpmeh
Profile Joined October 2002
United States333 Posts
October 07 2002 19:01 GMT
#2
i hope to help something like this happen in USA once i get some money =]

-angel
halp meh halp yuo
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
October 07 2002 19:17 GMT
#3
I think pro-gaming here will be just as big as it's in Korea, eventually. By that time pro-gaming in Korea will as big as football (the european/real version) is now.

the only real question is how long this will take.
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InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
October 08 2002 07:53 GMT
#4
Just wanted to put my two post at the top cuss i like them
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
NoName
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1558 Posts
October 08 2002 08:05 GMT
#5
I hope in my lifetime. Pro-gaming is getting bigger, but it is going very slowly. I remember N64 tourneys, and USA national video gaming team, from 10 years ago. You could win a few hundred $. I don't think much progress has been made from those days, at least in the USA.

It will take TV coverage, or some uber-game like BW in Korea, that most kids play, for it to move out of niche, eccentric, hobby status.
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Lynis
Profile Joined October 2002
United States2 Posts
October 08 2002 17:14 GMT
#6
I imagine pro gaming will take off in Europe, but as for the USA, it's highly unlikely. Gaming in general is looked upon pretty poorly in the states... you can turn on the TV and watch some talk show host lambasting video games; saying they turn children into violent criminals. If any group decides to broadcast games, even midly violent ones parent groups would total freak out and put pressure on the sponsors, driving them away, causing the league to shut down (no sponsors = no funds = no league).

As for most gamers in the states, they're nearly all casual gamers, they're not terribly in tune with "hardcore" gamers let alone anyone who would be a "Pro" gamer. So even if this league does get off its feet I don't really see too many people making any sort of connection with the players in the league.

Pro gaming just doesn't (and wont) fit into American culture, so my advice would be to save your $$$ for something else, angel .
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
October 08 2002 17:31 GMT
#7



(Sorry, Lynis. Your points are well made really. You just hit a nerve, that's all...)
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
October 08 2002 17:33 GMT
#8
haha
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Lynis
Profile Joined October 2002
United States2 Posts
October 08 2002 17:39 GMT
#9
hey take it easy guys... I'm on your side! I'd LOVE pro gaming to take off in the US, but realistically I just don't see it happening .

Anyone is welcome to prove me wrong . Who knows, maybe in a few years attitudes here will change?
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
October 08 2002 17:41 GMT
#10
he's just kdding with you

I think you're right about America not having the attitude for pro-gaming as it is now, but I think that will change slowly (slower than Europe). I believe it's really just a matter of time.
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halpmeh
Profile Joined October 2002
United States333 Posts
October 08 2002 17:51 GMT
#11
oh i'm going to be filthy rich =]

money won't be an issue, trust meh ;o

-angel
halp meh halp yuo
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
October 08 2002 18:09 GMT
#12
wanna be friends?
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TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
October 08 2002 18:40 GMT
#13
america is to caught up in football(fake version), and how it defines competition. sports skillz and competition are easier to see and get involved in then in gaming. sports is also woven into the economy and education in america. big sports teams bring in millions for networks/cities. there is money in gamin, but not millions upon millions. the money from sports also supports many big ten schools. the only reason i think this is important, is becuase i think a gaming industry would cut into the prophets(not just monetary) of the sports industry. most people would want to stop this, the only people that would not are hard core gamers, and we just dont got the numbers;[
People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
necromancer001
Profile Joined September 2011
United States5 Posts
September 16 2011 07:25 GMT
#14
9 years after,
Progaming indeed became bigger outside Korea, but SC2, not BW.
And as a result, BW is dying, some say is getting killed.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
September 16 2011 07:32 GMT
#15
Victor is truly a e-sports visionaire o.O
Although I think soccer is still bigger than progaming in Korea. That and baseball i think
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
September 16 2011 07:33 GMT
#16
Too many threads @_@
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
September 16 2011 07:34 GMT
#17
It would be funnier of halpmeh's name was Hoseo haha
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rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
September 16 2011 07:37 GMT
#18
On September 16 2011 16:25 necromancer001 wrote:
9 years after,
Progaming indeed became bigger outside Korea, but SC2, not BW.
And as a result, BW is dying, some say is getting killed.


^ banned for trolling mbcgame thread, ignore.
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
September 16 2011 07:45 GMT
#19
On September 16 2011 16:25 necromancer001 wrote:
9 years after,
Progaming indeed became bigger outside Korea, but SC2, not BW.
And as a result, BW is dying, some say is getting killed.


Living up to his name indeed.
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BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
September 16 2011 07:47 GMT
#20
what is with all the old threads getting bumped?
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