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When is this due to start? My exams end on the 12th so I can /in provisionally.
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1. If someone attempts to pick a role thats already taken they end up as vanilla townie.
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Thats kinda the whole point of the journalist role, to have people make fake claims.
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Oh, and to those coming up with picking tactics, I'm noting going to be following them. I'm going to pick whatever I think is most fun, not whats most optimum.
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On May 14 2011 20:57 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2011 20:24 deconduo wrote:
Oh, and to those coming up with picking tactics, I'm noting going to be following them. I'm going to pick whatever I think is most fun, not whats most optimum. This argument has been made in past PYP games as well. I can certainly understand where it comes from, no one likes to be dictated to, and the point of mafia is to have fun. However, it's important to note that what you're basically saying is, "No matter if role-denial is a great thing for town, I'm going to do whats best for me". This is of course an anti-town and pro-mafia viewpoint, so I hope you understand that I'll probably view it as such, and may hold it against you as the game goes on. I'm not trying to be a jerk here or anything, just trying to point out how I see that particular viewpoint. However, if you disagree and think that role-denial is NOT a great thing for the town, that's a different matter, and i encourage you to elaborate(which i'm sure folks some will).
My viewpoint is that the game starts after the roles have been picked. Any optimum picking strategy or awesome pick setup (like LSB's) just goes against my style of playing. I will be playing pro-town once the picks have gone through.
Regardless, to avoid confrontation I've chosen numbers in a way that I will hopefully be in the middle/end of the draft rather than the start.
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I have to say, Traitor, VI, Journalist, Puppeteer look like awesome picks. Don't hate me.
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On May 16 2011 07:44 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2011 07:36 deconduo wrote:
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I have to say, Traitor, VI, Journalist, Puppeteer look like awesome picks. Don't hate me. I'll hate you for the Traitor  I already claimed my pick earlier: 1,1
After what happened in PYP3, I don't think I'd risk traitor. I wonder what happens if a mole picks traitor lol.
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Why are people voting for Fishball?
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On May 17 2011 08:31 kitaman27 wrote:
deconduo
-Announces he will select the "fun role" rather than following any set plan
-Makes no comments on the set-up, but promises to play "pro-town" later on
-Claims to choose his numbers in order to appear at the middle/end of the draft
-Publicly informs that he is considering traitor and VI. Then mentions that traitor is "too risk". Why does he find it necessary to inform us that he is considering taking a role mafia would never pick?
-Weirdly defends Fishball above
He has my vote for now. I'll post more later.
Actually I think lynching me isn;t a bad idea. I have a feeling I'm a mole. Also I didn't get any role so I don't mind too much.
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On May 17 2011 09:12 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 08:44 deconduo wrote:On May 17 2011 08:31 kitaman27 wrote:
deconduo
-Announces he will select the "fun role" rather than following any set plan
-Makes no comments on the set-up, but promises to play "pro-town" later on
-Claims to choose his numbers in order to appear at the middle/end of the draft
-Publicly informs that he is considering traitor and VI. Then mentions that traitor is "too risk". Why does he find it necessary to inform us that he is considering taking a role mafia would never pick?
-Weirdly defends Fishball above
He has my vote for now. I'll post more later.
Actually I think lynching me isn;t a bad idea. I have a feeling I'm a mole. Also I didn't get any role so I don't mind too much. Show nested quote +My viewpoint is that the game starts after the roles have been picked. Any optimum picking strategy or awesome pick setup (like LSB's) just goes against my style of playing. I will be playing pro-town once the picks have gone through. Just cause you don't have a role doesn't mean you can't still be pro-town =[
If I feel the most useful thing I can do is get lynched then I will do so 
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On May 17 2011 09:16 Kavdragon wrote:
My gut reaction is to call Decon's bluff and lynch him. I think that he's obviously implying that he's the village idiot, but I doubt that he actually is. More likely he's mafia just trying to avoid a day one lynch.
That being said, I think that the more reasonable course of action is to ignore him for now.
If I was planning to pick VI I would hardly start off by saying 'I think I'll pick VI'
I really am just a normal townie.
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On May 17 2011 09:19 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 09:18 deconduo wrote:On May 17 2011 09:16 Kavdragon wrote:
My gut reaction is to call Decon's bluff and lynch him. I think that he's obviously implying that he's the village idiot, but I doubt that he actually is. More likely he's mafia just trying to avoid a day one lynch.
That being said, I think that the more reasonable course of action is to ignore him for now. If I was planning to pick VI I would hardly start off by saying 'I think I'll pick VI' I really am just a normal townie. Let's drop the WIFOM.
Drop it like its hot?
Back on track, I think scamp is pretty good lynch today. He's scummy in my eyes.
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On May 17 2011 09:24 Node wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 09:22 deconduo wrote:On May 17 2011 09:19 infinitestory wrote:On May 17 2011 09:18 deconduo wrote:On May 17 2011 09:16 Kavdragon wrote:
My gut reaction is to call Decon's bluff and lynch him. I think that he's obviously implying that he's the village idiot, but I doubt that he actually is. More likely he's mafia just trying to avoid a day one lynch.
That being said, I think that the more reasonable course of action is to ignore him for now. If I was planning to pick VI I would hardly start off by saying 'I think I'll pick VI' I really am just a normal townie. Let's drop the WIFOM. Drop it like its hot? Back on track, I think scamp is pretty good lynch today. He's scummy in my eyes. Why?
This post specifically:
On May 17 2011 09:15 Scamp wrote:
I'm not going to state at this point whether or not I took Inventor. Someone might steal my patents if I am. Still, if someone does invent something I doubt it'll be as obvious as a 'town-seeking missile' or whatnot.
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Thats no excuse, I've got to serve food to the Queen of England tomorrow.
+ Show Spoiler +No lie, its gonna be cool.
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On May 18 2011 08:12 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 07:28 kitaman27 wrote:On May 18 2011 06:49 Foolishness wrote:
Seems to me deconduo is an obvious green (or village idiot). Could you elaborate what makes you think he is obvious green? VI perhaps, but what makes you think he green? He wants us to lynch him because "he thinks he is the mole". He feels as a vanilla, it would be most useful if he were lynched. He has provided no attempt to help town. Are you guys inferring deconduo is the type of person that would rage quit the game because he didn't get the role he wanted? Well, that's what I'm wondering about at the moment. From near the beginning of the game: Show nested quote +On May 14 2011 21:56 deconduo wrote:On May 14 2011 20:57 Radfield wrote:On May 14 2011 20:24 deconduo wrote:
Oh, and to those coming up with picking tactics, I'm noting going to be following them. I'm going to pick whatever I think is most fun, not whats most optimum. This argument has been made in past PYP games as well. I can certainly understand where it comes from, no one likes to be dictated to, and the point of mafia is to have fun. However, it's important to note that what you're basically saying is, "No matter if role-denial is a great thing for town, I'm going to do whats best for me". This is of course an anti-town and pro-mafia viewpoint, so I hope you understand that I'll probably view it as such, and may hold it against you as the game goes on. I'm not trying to be a jerk here or anything, just trying to point out how I see that particular viewpoint. However, if you disagree and think that role-denial is NOT a great thing for the town, that's a different matter, and i encourage you to elaborate(which i'm sure folks some will). My viewpoint is that the game starts after the roles have been picked. Any optimum picking strategy or awesome pick setup (like LSB's) just goes against my style of playing. I will be playing pro-town once the picks have gone through.Regardless, to avoid confrontation I've chosen numbers in a way that I will hopefully be in the middle/end of the draft rather than the start. This sugests that he was never initially aiming at any "power roles", unless what he wrote here is a lie. He also makes a promise to act "pro-town", once the roles go out, but never delivers, opting for spam, one-liners, and confusing messages instead. So, he makes a post inferring that power-roles aren't important to him, so he'll aim for the middle/end of the queue, then he gets an early queue position, and supposedly picks a role, doesn't get it, and now rage-quits? That just seems off to me, when he was saying he wants to be in a position where he wouldn't get a very strong role (or any role at all, potentially). So, he's just thrown us into a bunch of WIFOM, that isn't helping anything. I might be forced to consider that he's the VI, but at this point, that's detrimental to town as well, because it gives him an excuse to post whatever he wants and to be ignored, and to lurk, under the guise of being VI. If we ever want to lynch him, it becomes a big pit of WIFOM, as he and others form a defense over his actions Day 1. Maybe the best thing would be to have someone just shoot him tonight?
I found another mafia.
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On May 18 2011 08:24 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 08:23 deconduo wrote:On May 18 2011 08:12 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On May 18 2011 07:28 kitaman27 wrote:On May 18 2011 06:49 Foolishness wrote:
Seems to me deconduo is an obvious green (or village idiot). Could you elaborate what makes you think he is obvious green? VI perhaps, but what makes you think he green? He wants us to lynch him because "he thinks he is the mole". He feels as a vanilla, it would be most useful if he were lynched. He has provided no attempt to help town. Are you guys inferring deconduo is the type of person that would rage quit the game because he didn't get the role he wanted? Well, that's what I'm wondering about at the moment. From near the beginning of the game: On May 14 2011 21:56 deconduo wrote:On May 14 2011 20:57 Radfield wrote:On May 14 2011 20:24 deconduo wrote:
Oh, and to those coming up with picking tactics, I'm noting going to be following them. I'm going to pick whatever I think is most fun, not whats most optimum. This argument has been made in past PYP games as well. I can certainly understand where it comes from, no one likes to be dictated to, and the point of mafia is to have fun. However, it's important to note that what you're basically saying is, "No matter if role-denial is a great thing for town, I'm going to do whats best for me". This is of course an anti-town and pro-mafia viewpoint, so I hope you understand that I'll probably view it as such, and may hold it against you as the game goes on. I'm not trying to be a jerk here or anything, just trying to point out how I see that particular viewpoint. However, if you disagree and think that role-denial is NOT a great thing for the town, that's a different matter, and i encourage you to elaborate(which i'm sure folks some will). My viewpoint is that the game starts after the roles have been picked. Any optimum picking strategy or awesome pick setup (like LSB's) just goes against my style of playing. I will be playing pro-town once the picks have gone through.Regardless, to avoid confrontation I've chosen numbers in a way that I will hopefully be in the middle/end of the draft rather than the start. This sugests that he was never initially aiming at any "power roles", unless what he wrote here is a lie. He also makes a promise to act "pro-town", once the roles go out, but never delivers, opting for spam, one-liners, and confusing messages instead. So, he makes a post inferring that power-roles aren't important to him, so he'll aim for the middle/end of the queue, then he gets an early queue position, and supposedly picks a role, doesn't get it, and now rage-quits? That just seems off to me, when he was saying he wants to be in a position where he wouldn't get a very strong role (or any role at all, potentially). So, he's just thrown us into a bunch of WIFOM, that isn't helping anything. I might be forced to consider that he's the VI, but at this point, that's detrimental to town as well, because it gives him an excuse to post whatever he wants and to be ignored, and to lurk, under the guise of being VI. If we ever want to lynch him, it becomes a big pit of WIFOM, as he and others form a defense over his actions Day 1. Maybe the best thing would be to have someone just shoot him tonight? I found another mafia. Is your criteria for mafia "anyone who disagrees with me"?
Nope, its a secret formula that I'll tell you after todays lynch.
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So, why has decon been playing strangely? To catch scum. Here's the fun thing, townies will think I could be scum or VI, whereas mafia would think I'm almost certainly VI. They know I can't be mafia and that is their downfall.
If you look at the people pushing for me to get lynched I would guess its nearly all townies. Mafia would want someone else lynched as lynching me doesn't help them at all. They would be pushing for me to get shot during the night.
I would be pretty sure from how he reacted that kitaman is mafia. I'd be suspicious of FW and Chezinu, and maybe Dreamflower. Kavdragon and Node are almost certainly town. Maybe Eiii as well.
For reference, I attempted to pick Bulletproof but it was already taken. I feel like this information benefits mafia more than town, but as people are pushing for me to reveal it...
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On May 19 2011 08:10 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 08:03 deconduo wrote:
So, why has decon been playing strangely? To catch scum. Here's the fun thing, townies will think I could be scum or VI, whereas mafia would think I'm almost certainly VI. They know I can't be mafia and that is their downfall.
If you look at the people pushing for me to get lynched I would guess its nearly all townies. Mafia would want someone else lynched as lynching me doesn't help them at all. They would be pushing for me to get shot during the night.
I would be pretty sure from how he reacted that kitaman is mafia. I'd be suspicious of FW and Chezinu, and maybe Dreamflower. Kavdragon and Node are almost certainly town. Maybe Eiii as well.
For reference, I attempted to pick Bulletproof but it was already taken. I feel like this information benefits mafia more than town, but as people are pushing for me to reveal it...
Another troll post. Pew Pew.
Because you couldn't be bothered to actually read it? GJ scum.
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Morale of the story:
Don't bother trying anything fancy because people are stupid and won't believe you.
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