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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 03 2011 18:43 GMT
#11
/in. Easy choice.

Also, what makes this insane and different from the other PYP games?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 03 2011 18:56 GMT
#18
On May 04 2011 03:50 Ver wrote:


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On May 04 2011 03:43 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
/in. Easy choice.

Also, what makes this insane and different from the other PYP games?


The fact that it uses essentially every role ever used in a mafia game here regardless of how imbalanced. Make sure you look carefully at the role list


Ok, that's what I figured for the most part. Awesome, can't wait for it to start. :p
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 04 2011 02:38 GMT
#43
Oh yeah, I also wanted to ask about the pardoner. Is the pardoner like the XXXVIII one, where they can pardon any "lynch target"?
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Mr. Wiggles
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Canada5894 Posts
May 09 2011 23:04 GMT
#103
This game looks like it's gonna get pretty crazy. I hope I don't get stomped
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Mr. Wiggles
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Canada5894 Posts
May 10 2011 01:09 GMT
#110
On May 10 2011 09:27 OriginalName wrote:
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On May 10 2011 08:04 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
This game looks like it's gonna get pretty crazy. I hope I don't get stomped


What do you have to worry about im the one whos going to get stomped T_T.

Although, I have plans...


Lol, is that a compliment?

And don't worry, you'll do fine, haha
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 10 2011 19:00 GMT
#137
On May 11 2011 03:50 sinani206 wrote:
Wait if there are more spots and it won't start until after XXXIX, then
/in (from replacement)


I think it's starting on Friday.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 12 2011 02:27 GMT
#171
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On May 12 2011 11:23 Kavdragon wrote:
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On May 12 2011 11:12 Node wrote:
On May 12 2011 11:09 tnkted wrote:
On May 12 2011 11:06 Qatol wrote:
/out


On May 12 2011 03:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Actually /out







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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 12 2011 20:39 GMT
#188
Happy Birthday Ver! :p
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 12 2011 23:06 GMT
#196
On May 13 2011 06:54 Barundar wrote:
Don't shoot the mafia bum, join us! It's good to be bad


^Caller GF
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 13 2011 23:14 GMT
#215
Starting tonight? :p
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 13 2011 23:27 GMT
#217
Game starts Friday night.


Wanting to make sure that he hasn't changed the start time. -__-
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 14 2011 01:01 GMT
#230
Checking in, where can I leave my bags?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 14 2011 01:11 GMT
#235
On May 14 2011 10:06 kitaman27 wrote:
Here is the plan: I'm going to publicly assign all roles 1-25. You will then pick the appropriate role according to your assignment. Anyone who fails to follow my plan is scum. This is completely pro-town, I swear.


He's not assigning 1-25 though, more like 1-9, all roles which are arguably anti-town.

There are still problems with this though. There's no way to tell if those people actually choose the roles or not, until the abilities are used. Also, this leaves other power roles open for mafia, because beyond a few of the roles, most of them are useless to town, and picking them only serves to deny them to mafia. So while they're all useful for mafia, they're useless to town, so it depends on if their denial outweighs the selection of other, more useful, roles.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 14 2011 05:21 GMT
#272
So how do we ensure we get vote rigger+Mafia 2 DT, and don't let mafia get both of politician and kingmaker?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 14 2011 18:55 GMT
#297
So, here's a quick list of KP dampening roles:

Chuiu Jack
Caller Veteran
Mafia 4 Veteran
Medic
Doctor
Bullet Proof
Bodyguard

Bus Driver- Arguably, this can be used as a strong protective role for town. If the identity/role of a strong town player becomes known, the bus driver can bus them away from danger. As well, if for whatever reason the identity of the bulletproof player becomes known, the bus driver can bus them around with pro-town players and effectively become a medic.

Also, if we are going to go ahead with any kind of plan which sets certain roles to certain queue positions, they must be solidified before the queue is known. So, if you say: "These five roles go to the first five", you better be giving them a specific order before we have the player-order. This will stop mafia from trying to salvage the roles in any way by asking for certain roles for certain queue positions. I'm not entirely sure at the moment whether assigning roles is good or not, but if you are proposing role-assignments like that, anyone trying to arrange the order after the queue is known will look very suspicious to me, at least.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 14 2011 19:19 GMT
#299
Well the thing about that, is there's 19 town, and from my quick run-through, maybe 7 defensive roles. Now, you can't expect them all to be chosen, but it's in our benefit to at least grab a few of them. This will ensure a good mix as well, because there will still be more than enough town to grab investigative roles, as well as any KP roles we may need.

The thing I'm worried about, is finding a way to prevent role-overlap. It's better for us if mafia overlap, but it's easier for town to overlap. Right now, I'm drawing a blank on ways to prevent town overlap besides complete role-assignment, which I don't think is a good idea. So, if anyone else has ideas for minimizing town overlap, it would be nice if you shared.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 15 2011 04:42 GMT
#352
[4][2]
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 15 2011 18:40 GMT
#407
Alignment Sniffing Bomb: Bomb which is inert, but explodes when held by a player who comes back "mafia" to alignment checks. However, it's very hot, so you can't hold it for long, and must be passed to another player once per day/night cycle.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 15 2011 18:42 GMT
#409
Can change the name to Mafia-Sniffing Bomb too, to avoid ambiguity in names. Could also have people claim they held it, and who they're passing it to, to find greens/GF, and make sure mafia didn't reverse it.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 16 2011 05:26 GMT
#456
Claiming your role was taken wouldn't be the best idea right now, in my mind. Firstly, we don't know if they're lying or not, which has been brought up already. Secondly, if it is a pro-town role, it doesn't give town anything to reveal it, and only helps mafia to narrow down who has what role if you're near the top of the list. If you tried to pick an anti-town role, then we just enter into WIFOM, firstly over whether you're telling the truth, and secondly on what your own alignment is. Trying to figure out who is mafia and who is town from a taken role based on role-denial seems like WIFOM hell.

If your role was taken, just use that to try to determine for yourself, who has what role. This will help if at some point that person is forced to role-claim. Say, you tried to take vigilante, and the role was taken already. Then you know the person who is the vigilante is above you in the list. If someone below you tries to claim it, they are lying, or are the thief, which is still anti-town. If someone above you claims the role, it becomes much more likely the fewer people there are above you in the list. So, just keep this information to yourself, and to make better sense of claims when they come. (Though I think fake-claims will be rare, or hard to pull off, given the large number of roles and impossibility of duplicates)
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