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I would like to /in if there's still room, I'm assuming there is since Jackal just outed.
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Happy birthday Ver!!!!!
/in! There's my birthday present for you :D
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On May 13 2011 08:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Happy birthday Ver!!!!!
/in! There's my birthday present for you :D
Ver... I inned... for your Bday... yet I am not on the signup list... or the back up list... I am in limbo O_O
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Amazing day post Ver
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Caller, Radfield, Barunder, and Flamewheel look pretty green from my vantage point on page 44
KillerSOS is scummy as hell
I'm torn on Chezinu.
Just wanted to say this so people know I'm paying attention, it'll take me another thirty minutes or so to finish the thread, will decide who to vote for once I'm done.
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Ok so Chez is mafia, almost sure.
I trust the GMarshal claim because his play looks like his normal town meta (although town meta did net us a terrible day one lynch eh Incog)
I'm pretty sure flamewheel is town as well because his claim doesn't make much sense for mafia
This leaves Node, Caller, and Incog.
Caller has done good analysis and voiced suspicions of people I'm suspicious of as well. To me he is the towniest out of these three. Node has made several appearences on different people's scum lists. These accusations are pretty spot on and he sure feels a lot scummier than Caller. Finally we have Incog who I've been all over the place with. When he first started his Kav bandwagon I was sooo sure he was scum mainly because the logic was really bad and the argument was forced. However nuking Chez actually made him seem more protown in my eyes because he's not afraid to bring attention to this group.
Basically here's how things should go down. Chez gets nuked and everyone is happy. Wiggles kills Node. If node flips red we all go and kill incog, if node is red we all kill KillerSOS, the scummiest player by far. Wiggles needs to kill node soon though so we can have enough time to lynch Incog if need be.
I will be voting KillerSOS unless Node flips green.
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I also see Chaoser's name popping up as scum. When these accusations first appeared in the thread they seemed pretty retarded but as time passes and Chaoser fails to appear these suspicions seem more and more appropriate.
I also am suspicious of Eii and Kitaman.
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perhaps activity isn't the right word... he's just not active in his usual way. It's more of a gut feeling.
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DON'T KILL KILLERSOS
Wiggles kill node, we need to keep things focused on the 5 people on the kavwagon. PLZ don't kill KillerSOS, if you don't wanna kill node then at least kill incog.
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lol no I'm not desperate, notice I'm voting KillerSOS in the voting thread. What I want to do is to clear up this whole deal with the 2/6 mafia voting for Kav. Chez is 100% dying so that leaves us with you, Caller, Incog, GM, and FW. Unfourtunately for you, you are the scummiest out of that bunch. If Wiggles kills you and the nuke kills Chez than we've netted two scum. There is of course the possibility of a framer or that you or Chez are town but at some point it all becomes extreme WIFOM. Right now we need to take action and see some flips in order to have a better idea for our collective lynch.
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Nah Barundar not at all, no way do I want us to stop scum hunting. I fully expect GMarshal to die tonight but I think we should make use of the info he gave us and lynch at least once from the pool of 6. Right now I feel like our focus should be here and I don't think it wont kill us to spend a day discussing it (the only danger is if it became like the item game from insane 2 lolol)
Don't worry I have no intention of crutching on blues :D
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Incog isnt the best lynch methinks. My alter ego was supper convinced he is town and while I'm not her I feel it would be better to kill someone else out of the kavwagon. While Incog has acted pretty insane I'm not ready to pull the trigger yet because I think node is a better option. Seriously, I know I've said this before but I'll say it again. Kill node now with king vote. If he flips green (doubt it) then we lynch Incog. If he flips red than we just prevented ourselves from killing a strong a vocal townie and allows us to use our lynch on someone else. This is the fastest and most efficient way to resolve this IMO.
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On May 21 2011 09:33 KillerSOS wrote:
Managed to get through the last 2 pages on my horrible phone internet... If you want to lynch me it's a waste, but feel free.
I'm PYP Tracker
Results of your action last night?
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On May 21 2011 09:43 Radfield wrote:
This KillerSOS train already felt crappy anyways.
Lets either focus on Incog/Node or preferably focus on chaoser/Originalname.
No one has built an official case thus far against chaoser, but he's had a lot of defense, so I'm going to start.
I'm cool with that and I'll unvote KillerSOS and vote node instead. However look at Killer's claim, it's probably the weakest thing I've ever seen, also look at the result of his action, it's a really easy one for mafia to fake. I wouldn't consider him cleared at all but I'll focus on Node/Incog for the sake of keeping things focused in one place.
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Ok yeah you saw it too Radfield. We need to do my plan -_- we can potentially net three scum if everything goes well.
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On second thought I'm not switching votes and I don't buy Killer's claim at all. Radfield I'd switch your vote to killer if you think incog is town. Node isn't going to die by standard lynch, theres not enough time left.
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On May 21 2011 10:26 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2011 10:23 kitaman27 wrote:
*Pokes Wiggles
Shot within the hour? If Ver isn't around then we might have to wait longer than expected. Sure, I'm just trying to figure out who to shoot. :p
Wiggles I understand you're not sure who to shoot. However I'm starting to feel like you're stalling.
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On May 21 2011 10:30 Incognito wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2011 10:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On May 21 2011 10:13 Incognito wrote:On May 21 2011 05:45 Foolishness wrote:On May 21 2011 05:24 Ace wrote:On May 21 2011 05:07 Radfield wrote:On May 21 2011 04:34 Ace wrote:
@GMarshal: If we don't lynch Incognito then who from the remaining players on the list is the second Scum? We have to clear that out first. Does ANYONE else on that list appear Scummier than Incognito? If so, vote for them. I'm not trying to be a dink here, but I don't fully understand why we need to clear the list out. I understand we need to eventually, but why right away, right now? We have the information, so it can wait for us to deal with it until we're ready. Our ultimate goal is to kill the mafia, so if targeting players on the list doesn't get that done the best, then we let it lie for now. No? No one really has a anti-town read on either Caller or flame, GMarshal seems town aligned, Incog seems town to a large portion, and Node doesn't seem particularly scummy. It seems to me that waiting a night cycle and putting some investigations on those remaining 5 is a prudent course of action. If mafia want to shoot players off the list, great. Better them than us. Also, GMarshall, it's a bit ironic that you mention no one is coming to Incogs defense, because actually quite a few players are. Myself, Barundar, yourself, tnkted, dreamflower and maybe a couple others. Mind you, in my mind those are almost mostly 'lock-solid townies'. We clear it out because we know 2 out of 6 are scum. Why would we go another direction when we already know where to look? That makes no sense. Secondly a "large portion" of town hasn't claimed Incog is innocent, especially looking at the voting thread so that point is false. If you don't have an anti-town read on Caller or flame, believe GMashal and Incog are town, and that Node doesn't seem Scummy then who does that leave? Odds are even better because it's 2/5. So far Chaoser is the only one that sheds doubt upon the validity of the 2/5 (more due to mafia intervention with a framer than he doubts GMarshal). With all the nice KP roles for the mafia I find it hard to believe they would pick framer. Especially since if they wanted to hide themselves they'd be picking the GF roles instead of framer. As what Ace said before, we need to clean up the list now because the odds are better than trying to hunt in the town pool. I don't see how you can make an argument against this, especially since it's only day 2 (it's not like we got 5 days of analysis to try to pin down mafia). Anyone who tries to vote elsewhere or make analysis on other people than the 5 (6) in the list need to be looked at carefully once the list is sorted through. All you're doing at the moment is distracting the town. If we just focus on the list we can hopefully nail the 2 mafia without suffering town casualties. These paragraphs and paragraphs of analysis against myself, chaoser, KillerSOS are just cluttering up the town at the moment, and the people making these are mafia in my head because they are just trying to get the town off focus from the list. If you think I'm mafia, or chaoser is mafia, or whoever is not on the list, great. I'm all for throwing analysis around. But geez just wait until the list is cleared up and stop cluttering the thread. Summarize your suspicion in one sentence and focus on someone on the list. And before you jump on me for not doing this, I have wanted to kill Incog since yesterday, same reasons as Ace has stated, and that hasn't changed. If there still is a mafia on the list after Incog and Chez are dead I want to kill Node. Mr. analysis and scumhunting is content to go with "the odds" and chill on the sidelines. This is too funny. On May 21 2011 05:51 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Incog's nuke also doesn't do too much to his credit. Let me say this: Killing Chezinu, like KillerSOS or other lurkers, is easy. It was an easy kill, because town was expressing suspicion of him and a desire to kill him with my king lynch. As well, he hasn't contributed much if anything to town so far, and was mostly dead weight. So, killing him doesn't take much thought to do.
That said, I don't think I'll kill Incog right now. I'd rather leave him alive, and at the mercy of the lynch.
Actually, I think you should vig me right now so that you get more information that comes out of the scramble of all the invalid ##Vote Incognito votes. Its pretty clear that you will get no information from my lynch. Its easy for mafia to jump on either side of the wagon. If you vig me, people will actually be forced to give reasons on why they are voting for the other suspects. And Ironically you want to kill KillerSOS, who you say is a easy. Why go for the easy kill? Do the right thing and kill me instead and force people to give reasons for their votes on the other suspects. Vigging you and having you flip green doesn't solve anything. All at does is make your voters hop over to Node, or KillerSOS, without the need to provide any substantial reasoning. If I were to shoot into you/Node, it would be because one of you are likely to be red. If I don't shoot into you, I'd effectively be doing house cleaning, getting rid of non-contributing, scummy looking, lurkers like KillerSOS or ON. There's already been a massive bandwagon on KillerSOS. People aren't focusing on that bandwagon too much because they are focused on lynching Incognito. Get rid of that, and suddenly they have to think about stuff. Voting Incognito is a no-brainer. Among all these "lurkers", there has to be a reason why you think one is more suspicious than the other.
Incog, in the most politiest way possible I am asking you to kindly shut up. Stop being such a damn martyr. At this point you're spamming and not being helpful.
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