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[Q] PvP Which startgate unit to counter colossus?

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Strikertoto
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United States9 Posts
April 04 2011 00:26 GMT
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I always open PvP with stalker colossus combo (if I don't do 4 gate) then later I add stargate units to counter opponent's colossus as I start to mine 6 gases and my army reaches near 200. I know void rays are designed to counter massive units, and they deal a huge amound of damage on colossus. But they are very expansive (only 50/50 less than colossus price), extreamly fragile against stalker's attack, and their production times are quiet long. Phoenixes might deal less damage, but they are cheap, easy to mass, and they are surprisingly sturdy against stalker's attack. Besides, I have seen a lot of replays that 3 gate phoenix beats 3 gate robo colossus. What do you guys think? I am highly considering about using phoenixes instead of void rays, but I want to see people's oppinion first. Is any of you guys using phoenixes and can tell me how good/bad they are?
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April 04 2011 00:27 GMT
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