EPTI'll say it now, not a fan of the assassin style 3rd party mechanic. I also wish the mayor/pardoner did not know the ID of the bodyguards...
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I'll say it now, not a fan of the assassin style 3rd party mechanic. I also wish the mayor/pardoner did not know the ID of the bodyguards... | ||
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If you're afraid you'll die, yes, go ahead and post your thoughts before the day post. But that's not the same as just normal townie conversations. | ||
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I like BC's model of several townie cells better, but that kinda relies on PMs unfortunately. I am OK with inactivity/lurker lynch day 1, but with several new players this game, I think we have a great shot at some imba scumtell lynches, possibly even day 1. It's too early to be throwing around FoSes, but two of our new posters have already got my eyebrows raised... | ||
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Did you join the campaign to off Kavdragon day1? I must not have been looking when you did, but welcome to the club! XD | ||
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On April 10 2011 01:51 Robellicose wrote: I'd probably agree with this statement. Unless someone red/black goofs up and it's horrifically obvious that we can lynch them. And whilst I've not played/read a game that used a pardoner, we'll have to be pretty damned careful that we get one of us into the position - imagine a successful lynch of the godfather being blocked by some asshole mafia pardoner. man that would piss me off... How much mafia experience do you have robellicose? your name is also kinda fricking long to type, you have a preferred nick? | ||
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btw, i think playing forum mafia is or can be harder than irc. from a scum perspective, the town has a lot more time to scrutinize you and apply good analysis, from a town perspective scum have a lot more time to craft their posts to blend in and they can go afk or use planned team strategies t cause chaos. overall, the play level just seems higher. any other newcomers, please intoduce yourselves too. =) | ||
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On April 10 2011 08:14 kevconsim wrote: im kevin this is my third game most people call me that lurker person or kevconscum i like mafia and cheesy poofs Yes, I've obs'ed your play a bit in the other games. I hope you'll post more this time around! especially with no PM's. Unfamiliar faces for me: Latrommi TranceStorm urashimakt Milkyst DropBear The_Roist jaminz AirbladeOrange MetalFace redFF M0nsterChef Serejai Mig Jeez that's a lot. Like I said (actually I think coag said it first in the other game thread), prepare for imba scumtell lynches  If you've never played mafia before and you're town, it *should* be obvious so don't worry about it, just post and contribute what you can and have fun.Serejai I've seen you around the forums, tech support and minecraft, but I don't know how you play mafia. scumhunting 101 for everyone: mafia never TRY to look anti-town (unless a bus or something weird is going down). The optimal scum play is generally considered to be staying out of the limelight, keeping contribution/posting to a minimum. (Some scum prefer to attempt to match their town meta, but this is difficult especially when a scumbuddy is being pressured.) So a good approach for the first few days is to go through the player list and see who has not stood out to you at all. Read all their posts and see if they are hiding or just trying to appear to contribute by giving wishy-washy opinions or arguing points that don't matter. | ||
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DrH, will you please shut up a bit? you are playing the same way you did back in insane 1... I want the new players to speak up, but it won't happen if you keep biting their heads off and/or drowning them with your spamming. Instead of reacting to every little thing you disagree with, wait and see who else disagrees, who lets it slide, who likes it, etc. I would consider protact a good candidate for pardoner or mayor. One question that is vital though: I have never seen town use "gift KP" well, so how do you intend to put your KP to town use? especially with a town this size, a vote is going to be a nightmare. You could have the mayor pick your targets, but that puts even more power into one pair of hands. Leaving it to your discretion is...lawl. | ||
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On April 01 2011 01:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote: can i please not be mayor On April 01 2011 04:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote: guys ill only run for mayor if im mafia im telling you this now ... On April 10 2011 14:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote: im gonna run because i can only trust myself here is my "policy" mayor: -use my votes on whoever i think is scummiest not who the "town" tells me to vote for -lynch kavdragon on day 1 pardoner: -pardon whoever i think is getting lynched on a dumb bandwagon even if the rest of the town is pretty sure they are scum that's it also as far as the assassin game like i said we should post who we suspect of being an assassin so they dont kill townies but 90% of posts in this thread should be geared toward finding mafia so really i think this game should be kinda disregarded unless it becomes important later i have a bad reputation of getting too much attention in games though but i came pretty close to nailing the entire scumteam in salem and in insane mafia so i think i'll just get better every game vote 4 me what is this shit? come on, prove you've learned from the past... You don't have to be the mayor, you don't have to trust no one, you don't have to be in control and in charge of everything.... BTW kavdragon is a stupid day one lynch. He's a damn good liar, but if anybody had bothered to to behavioural analysis it should have been obvious he was not town last game -_-. He'll be active and a fairly easy read in another day or two. Plus there's still like a dozen people that haven't even posted yet... | ||
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On April 11 2011 04:56 Protactinium wrote: ... List of People attacking my campaign, openly or subtly. AKA Mafia & Assassin list
tnkted mig kitaman Kavdragon Wiggles Darmousseh Dropbear Robellicose Coagulation ... Kav, you're being retarded. Dr.H/Protact scum team is over the top. Also, quit posting town guides and general advice. There's already Ver's guide, and you need to play this game. So far your only stance is your quite unbelievable dr.h Protact read. eiii... On April 11 2011 09:23 Eiii wrote: Well, after catching up with the thread I'm pretty sure I've fallen in love with drh <3 Anyway I feel really good about GM being mayor, he's certainly green in my eyes. What surprises me is that kita hasn't gotten any mayoral attention-- his posts have nearly all been on the mark, and though I was thinking he could be black for a while, taking such a strong stand against prot makes him green to me. I'm voting kita. ##Vote kitaman27 This is exceptionally poor reasoning. If kita was black, that would force him to be anti-protact, how could his stance possibly indicate to you that he is not black? at best, it is neutral. Protact... I believe you said that your vig shots will be used for town purposes, but also that you will choose your own targets. Is this accurate? Also, you seem to underestimate kitaman, in my opinion. At this point I am still willing to support protact for pardoner. I'm willing to support DrH on the basis that I believe him to be town. I'm not willing to support kitaman, pandain or gmarshal. I didn't forget you chaoser, I just don't have an opinion yet. ^^wiggles, the only thing that's harder to read than PBPA is a PBPROA (post-by-post-rebuttal-of-analysis) -_- | ||
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##Vote DrH I'd really prefer that GMarshal not get elected. Protactinium said it well... his PBPA was lackluster, his scumhunting skills are not really honed as far as I have observed. And, GM, if you managed to peg the mafia team day 1 last game, you're either lucky or you're better than everyone else in the forum. I'm thinking lucky... ON seems like a fine lynch to me. Mig is also a good lynch in my opinion, not to let him slide under the radar anymore. I've been looking at the players in the anti-protact list. If we don't elect protact (likely), then we can't rely on the blacks to clean up this list for us, so we might as well look at these guys ourselves.
tnkted - DrH has pointed out the scummy posts here mig - DrH again pointed out the scumminess kitaman - strongest opponent of protact, in my opinion overreacted. Kavdragon - I completely agree with protact that kav needs to stop with the general advice and start playing this game--but kav is still a dumb day1 lynch. After his performance in the last few games, he should be a target for scum if he's not one of them. Wiggles - haven't noticed this guy, other than GMs PBPA on him Darmousseh - fairly inactive (i think 2-3 posts) votes for GM, complains about spam Dropbear - posts look clean to me. Interacts and takes stands. Is a little too quiet perhaps (4-5 posts) Robellicose - another quiet one. One of his first posts seemed like a scumslip to me, but subsequent posts make it hard to say :/ Coagulation - looks to me like his green meta, but I would never bet money on this guy's alignment Darmousseh, mig, tnkted are the scummiest looking ones in my opinion. Chaoser, what happened to your campaign? ran out of energy? | ||
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A reminder from the other thread: Yet to vote: LemonWalrus, Rean, Conversion, jaminz, Barundar, Jackal58, Protactinium, Ilovejonn, Latrommi, Tackster, Kavdragon. I thought some of these people had voted, maybe they did in this thread only or something. I don't mind the blue list. I think it's understood that blues should still use their own judgment. But at the same time, giving a blue list is one of the best ways to 1) put pressure on scum 2) make them wifom about their NKs 3) show your own alignment On that note, I have already given my ideas on who to DT. As for medicing, I would prefer vet players over people like dropbear/redff. I would say protect Kav, drH (if not elected), kitaman, perhaps jackal or chaoser. Not saying these are pro-town, but they are good enough to not give themselves away day 1, while a scum team would want to pick them off. I would totally have put protact on this list if he hadn't claimed assassin -_- Which makes me wonder...why claim assassin protact? it seems like you could have been less transparent and perhaps gotten better results. I mean most of the town believes you capable of the leadership/analysis we're looking for, did you think you needed the added bonus of offering us your shots/check? One last question for the thread...why is eiii an assassin all of a sudden? I didn't find anything in his posts when I glanced through them. | ||
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Lanaia Robellicose Coagulation OriginalName AirbladeOrange M0nsterChef kevconsim Kenpachi Serejai Current voters for Gmarhsal. How do you attract all the lurkers and noobs GM? it's like magic... Seriously, serejai, AO, kev, need to post more. | ||
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On April 12 2011 07:17 Kavdragon wrote: I don't usually feel the pressure to explain my actions, but in this case I think it will help clear a few things up: (This is a response to a general sentiment that was voiced by Robe ^^) I've been talking to Ver, BC and RoL a lot over the past few games trying to improve my play. I started talking to Foolishness this game. Looking over many of the excellent town players, they all look at the setup and try to figure out what the mafia's strategy will be. I did the same thing. I saw a ton of new players, and a mafia with 4 KP. My immediate thought was that inactivity would be rampant among the newer players, and the mafia would have enough KP to kill of most, if not all the vocal people. With that in mind, I decided that the best course of action would be try to get the new players as involved as possible. To do this, I had to make it as easy as possible for them to get better. Sure, you can point them to another guide, but it's easier if it's in the thread. The players who are going out to read guides are not the problem. It's the players who are too lazy to read the guides that I'm trying to hook. It was my plan. It had problems, I see that now. I didn't anticipate the amount of spam that was thrown around. I didn't build flexability into my plan, to account for things that I should have known I couldn't see. Regardless, I think that the goal was sound. We NEED to get the new players on board with us, or we've already lost the game. That being said, I'll stop posting guides and try to contribute more to the thread now. still haven't said anything game relevant, still using too many words -_- You're defending yourself more than is warranted, especially since you've done nothing else. On April 12 2011 07:09 Barundar wrote: It's so quiet... ##Vote GMarshal Don't disappoint me, lynch an inactive/lurker please. Do you care which lurker/inactive? is this better than lynching OriginalName? Are you still comfortable with GM even though his analysis and plans have been shown to have holes? Try harder plz. | ||
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@ Kav: come at me bro | ||
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Good on you for quitting tackster. On to a healthier, nicer smelling future! | ||
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On April 12 2011 07:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I'm going to lynch Kavdragon yeah, i'm not sticking my neck out for that guy anymore -_- "yeah, I had a plan that involved contributing without contributing but now i see the folly of my ways and I'll now seem like I'm really going to contribute and my plan was good at heart but i just didn't foresee everything but look at me contributing see how long my posts are i must be protown" | ||
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