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As such, I don't have access to irc during the day, and reading logs will take for ever and analysing them will require more time to format properly. This makes it harder for me to play... Not to mention I would most likely not be able to join the irc chat often. Not to mention how cluttered the thread will look once the logs are posted... I guess if everyone else wants one I don't mind... Just don't call me scum if I donKt participate in it very much. | ||
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On March 13 2011 03:11 LSB wrote: Blue Police Force- This is the pro town mason circle. In a world full of reds and blacks, the greens need some help, and help comes in the form of the big guns. Of course, the police can’t actually kill people, but they have their own way of helping. People need to read the OP... blue has 0 KP, and 0 KP roles (or that's how I read this). Meaning, they are either all DTs, Medics, or some other kind of random NON-killing role. So would the blues give up non-violent roles... then yes, unless they are obscenely strong... | ||
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As my first and only act as major, I would random.org a player and they would be killed. /joke (had to since everyone is trying to run) To me, the only available choices for major are... bum and some random person from the item game. Personally, I would rather have bum in as our major... simply because well, a blue in a major already has 4 confirmed non-scum. As well, the blues can coordinate their powers. So if blues have two medics, they won't protect the same people... So we don't end up with a "medics from 1-10 protect X, medics from 11-20 protect Y, medics from 21-30 protect Z" which just isn't that great. But with bum he can go "medics protect X" and then the blue medics can protect Y and Z and we gurantee (as long as there is a green medic) that we spread out our protects... instead of having 3 medics in players 1-10 and ya... just how I think about it. Item game is good and all, I guess... but well, its only a mater of time until the people in the item game are dead... and we can always just use DTs on item game people first to kill the black and red in item game early... | ||
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On March 25 2011 09:27 annul wrote: this is true, but understand that without giving mayor to a green in item game, we are conceding item game outright. No we aren't... mafia DO NOT want to shoot into item game. mafia cannot win item game without lynching black first. This means, that black will probably shoot into item game. Meaning until the 3rd part dies in item game, it will take at least 4 night phases for black to win item game. If we only have 1 DT, and the DT checks players in item game then... night 1: black kills someone in item game, DT checks someone in item game day 1: if DT found black, DT can reveal the black and get the black killed, if not, keeps mouth shut. night 2: black kills osmeone in item game, DT checks someone else in item game day 2: etc... until Black is found, if we have multiple DTs looking... then town wins item game. - - - - Basically: If we DT check item game -> town wins item game If mafia shoots into item game -> Black wins item game Mafia are more scared of black than town, therefore town wins item game... | ||
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I don't close my browser on my laptop or on my phone. | ||
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Q: Who gets the items? A: SURVIVING ITEM GAME PLAYERS So say black gets the items... well guess what, we can lynch that black player the next day, and they get 0 items, all gone. Item game is ONLY useful for town, IF the town player then doesn't die right after winning... So ya, item game is NOT useful for anyone but town, as if anyone but town wins, we just kill that player and all items are lost. | ||
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 . I'm calling it now. Want to just get this here from posterity sake, then we can move on till I can "I told you so" the town. | ||
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He's very quiet, he normally isn't. Every game I've played with him, he hasn't player like this, and every game he has been town. Its the same as how I accused Brocket in XXXV. And then I did the same thing to DCLXVI in Pokemafia. Both times being right. Didn't play long enough in Death Factory to actually find any mafia... so then this is my 4th game total, and this is my prediction based on his past play, and how he is playing now. | ||
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On March 26 2011 09:10 CubEdIn wrote: 1. Insanious: you'll need to give us more reasons. Mostly because of what happened in Death Factory. You were sure about kenpachi but he wasn't mafia, so you know, you may be wrong now as well. And even if you're not, you can't just say that, you need to convince town. If you ARE wrong they you might get yourself killed as well and lose two townies (assuming no red would stick their neck out to kill a random townie). FAIL reasoning... In death factory, I KNEW 1 in 4 of the players near me (darmousseh, OriginalName, kitaman27, or kenpachi) were maffia... 1 of them was 100% mafia. darmousseh CONFIRMED that 3 of 4 of those were NOT mafia. As such, kenpachi HAD to be mafia. This was NOT a feeling, this was due to game mechanics. We would of killed the mafia 100% if ON wasn't the godfather and as such immune to DT checks. This IS NOT the same thing. There is a big difference then "one of these 4 people are mafia, and 3 of them are confirmed town" and "This player is playing drastically different then any other time he has played the game when he was town." | ||
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On March 26 2011 09:41 Kenpachi wrote: WEll DF Mafia is a bad example Cube. Although i sorta hold a grudge on Insanious, i wont kill him over that one game. The reason why its a bad example though, is because he read is role wrong and was convinced i would flip red The reason I killed you, was because ON was godfather, so he didn't show up mafia when darmousseh checked him. I would NOT have killed you, if darmousseh did NOT clear ON. Its a bad example, since 3 of 4 players were cleared... and you were left. But one of the cleared players was really mafia. In this, no one is cleared since there is no role like darmousseh or my own from death factory (i assume) | ||
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BrownBear is playing drastically different then a normal game, and as such I am calling SCUM. Since I have only played with him when he is town, and when I played with him he talked a lot. In this game, he isn't talking, therefore not playing the same as town, therefore not town. He is black or red. | ||
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On March 26 2011 09:53 tnkted wrote: or blue? Perhaps? And again, I'm just waiting for bum to say that he has a list of who he'd like confirmed handy (don't post it yet bum!) before I reveal what my plan is. I've played with BrownBear when he was a blue... as blue is town... and he is much more talkative. I am saying he is not playing how he usually does when he is pro-town. | ||
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We are currently 48 hours into the game, and BrownBear, usually a vocal member of the town, has posted only a handful of times... this is very strange to me. Really, in mafia games you only have a few ways to find scum: 1) A scum slip. Actual slip, where someone says something that directly proves they are scum. ALMOST NEVER HAPPENS. Scum are VERY careful when posting, so 99/100 you will NOT find a scum who straight up accidentally says they are scum. 2) Scummy trends. A player who constantly posts in a way that directs the town's attention somewhere else. Where they mislead the town, and get greens killed. 3) Metagame. A player plays in one way, and in this game plays differently. What changed? Their role. - - - - - It is BAD scum hunting to ignore how a player usually plays. Yes, extraneous circumstances do happen... but you also have to look at what else might be happening. Personally, I think he is lurking, he is scum... and people defending him now, are simply allowing him to lurk without speaking up. | ||
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On March 26 2011 10:20 CubEdIn wrote: I agree, but you're judging all of this when less than 1 game day went by. You really can't point out someone for inactivity when it's been so little. I agree that lurkers should be outed, and I agree that he should speak. I don't agree that he should be day 1 lynch though. I once almost got mod-killed for not posting during the entire of day 1, and I was town, so I know it can happen. I've done it in almost every game i've played in, and have been right every time... | ||
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