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OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 11 2011 02:53 GMT
#25
/in
and i promise ill get more sleep and not use uh "illegal substances" before Day 1 next time zzz
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 21 2011 03:13 GMT
#173
So much explody not enough shooty :/
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 23 2011 03:26 GMT
#278
/confirm
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 23 2011 03:45 GMT
#300
What if your Scum and this is a trick

What If your PM buddy is scum
What If your history keeper is scum

This all seems rather inefficent and I remember that game where people blindly roleclaimed to Pandain which caused a town loss.

Marshal I really think your an awesome player but this is not the way to go about this. PMs are good for a similer kind of thing but RNG is still random. You can accomplish the same thing by posting and then asking for PMed opinions. it's really hard for town to get information and opinions when your only confiding in one person. There are ~24 of us. We all need to make smart decisions.

OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 23 2011 03:47 GMT
#305
On February 23 2011 12:40 chaoser wrote:
Ok, so like Gmarshal said, we shouldn't depend on blues this game. Especially since RoL specifically said this game was to punish us for what happened in Salam. At the same thing, I don't think the mafia powers are all THAT powerful. Let them frame away, that's one less death to worry about. PMs are allowed but PLEASE don't just give out crazy info in them (roleclaim, etc.). The point of town is not to have 1 leader controlling everything but small circles that are separated so that if one goes down, the others can still operate. Let's all work together and not let a few players handle all the work (which always seems to happen). This means contributing pleaseee.


This is soooo good.

Pms are a great tool but don't rely on them.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 23 2011 03:48 GMT
#307
On February 23 2011 12:46 gryffindor wrote:
I'm a veteran
claims to me


If you claim to him your hopeless. Care to give more Gryff?
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 23 2011 03:50 GMT
#308
On February 23 2011 12:47 annul wrote:
okay hi peeps

vote chaoser. that post reeks of redness.

p.s. still no role PM!


I think it's quite town but needs to have communication between cells also how exactly does it reek red?
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 23 2011 03:56 GMT
#314
Ah ok...
I sort of just skimmed that guide for mini mafia guess I'll take a closervlook now.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 23 2011 15:18 GMT
#449
Comparing groups:

Old Groups

+ Show Spoiler +
1. Coagulation, LSB, gryffindor
2 GMarshal, seRapH, OriginalName
3 Mr. Wiggles, ICanFlyLow, kevconsim
4 Barundar, LastArgument , why
5 darmousseh, Ser Aspi, Kenpachi
6 Gofarman, chaoser, ohN
7 astroorion, CubEdIn, Jackal58
8 Beneather, annul, Conversion
9 icemac, Foolishness, LunarDestiny
10 deconduo, kitaman27, JBright


New Groups

+ Show Spoiler +
1.) Coagulation LSB Barundar
2.) CubEdIn Jackal58 Kenpachi
3.) darmousseh annul gryffindor
4.) GMarshal Beneather icemac
5.) OriginalName , JBright ,seRapH
6.) ohN ,astroorion, Foolishness
7.) Gofarman ,Conversion ,kitaman27
8.) kevconsim ,ICanFlyLow ,Mr. Wiggles
9.) chaoser LunarDestiny Ser Aspi
10.) deconduo why LastArgument


While I think these new groups are slightly more random i bolded groups that remain relatively the same. Im not sure if it means anything but well you never know .

I still dont plan on using them as Scum infiltration is increadably likely and really not worth the misinformation overall.

However it is still possible to scum fish by analyzing their responses and looking at how some are fishy.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 23 2011 15:27 GMT
#451
We still have people who havent posted as well I think we need to start pressureing them.

The following need to post:

icemac
JBright
astroorion
ICanFlyLow
Gofarman

:/
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 23 2011 16:34 GMT
#458
On February 24 2011 01:17 deconduo wrote:
I don't like this at all. The whole banter between gryff and gmarshal seems off as well. In addition I've gotten 2 PMs this entire game:

Show nested quote +
Original Message From gryffindor:
do you have any reads so far?
what do you believe i am aligned?


Show nested quote +
Original Message From GMarshal:
Hi!
So,I'm curious as to what your reads are this game, care to share?


Disturbingly similar.


Ive aloso received a similer PM from Gmarshal.

Original Message From GMarshal:
So, what are your reads on chaoser, gryffindor and annul?


I didnt reply to it as i really didnt need to know what to make of it.

He seems to want reads to be isolated when they should be posted in the thread.
This is seems scummier and scummier to me but i will reserve my judgement for now.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 23 2011 16:48 GMT
#460
On February 24 2011 01:34 OriginalName wrote:
He seems to want reads to be isolated when they should be posted in the thread.
This is seems scummier and scummier to me but i will reserve my judgement for now.


-_-
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 23 2011 17:03 GMT
#466
On February 24 2011 01:55 GMarshal wrote:
So ON, who are your scum reads since you insist so much that all interaction should take place in the thread?



While I would like to say you I really dont have much evidence other than that.
Other than you:

Chaoser
Gryf (mostly the Vet claim and the possible fake fighting between you and him)
That random dude who voted Annul for no reason (Althought probably just a newb)

At this point I really dont have a good idea. My opinions on the rest are generally neutral and I really dont have anyone who i solidly think is town yet.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 24 2011 00:16 GMT
#511
On February 24 2011 08:47 kevconsim wrote:
Most of the stuff that i have thought has been posted and i agree with a lot of the stuff on here. I think it would be a mistake to get rid of some of the major contributors.


Thats not enough man.

Who do you feel are major contributors?
Why do you agree with them?
Who do you think is scum?
What do you agree with?

There are alot of differing opinions this game just bandwagoning is how town loses especially when mafia tips it in the right direction have a mind of your own or you lose.


--------

In my case I think right now there are really two camps of thought

Gmarshal, Chaoser and co
They advocate:
A PM based game ran around using cells

Pros:
A good way to hide ideas and to disscuss when they are uncorrupted cells

Cons:
A ~30% of mafia corruption.

HOWEVER
Im these cells ther could be multiple scum, so this could or could not be a great idea. This is based on our sign-up numerical based selection.

Clean cells however are a great tool and promote activity as long as the information is put in the thread afterwords.

Another point is how do we know what information is being held back and we could use reactions to lure out mafia in PMs.

Lynch candidates:
Undecided


Annul and co.

Consider GM Chaoser and etc scummy
Wants to pressure them and play this by the book but havent figured out a solid game plan as of yet.
Is more Blue Role based.

Just as easily pushed around by mafia in thread.
Wants a more standard PM usage.

Id like to hear more on planning.

When i take a more anlyaictic approach to system A I like it more but sort of passed it off as viable to corruption.

Mafia Corruption is going to be our number one issue this game.

I really dont have much else to say otherwise and really need more information to act.

Lynching:

Inactives will be modkilled ---> Pursuing an inactive lynch is fairly random in result and can lessen the modkill impact theoretically

Or we could do a more educated lynch at which point we need to have a target in mind and have good evidence to due so.

Or we could just bandwagon and hope for the best you never know (Don't do this)
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 24 2011 00:17 GMT
#512
EBWOP

Cons:
A ~30% CHANCE of mafia corruption.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 24 2011 00:42 GMT
#519
Also i want an update on dat Coag list.
seems bitchiiiiiin
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 24 2011 01:54 GMT
#538
On February 24 2011 10:51 gryffindor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 10:32 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On February 24 2011 10:24 gryffindor wrote:
On February 24 2011 06:29 annul wrote:
also hi. am out of class now

why arent we killing chaoser or GM?

im gonna go ##vote chaoser now myself.

Annul is teamed with gmarshal. When mafia fos someone d1 and vote someone else they are teamed with their fos. On my phone, will catch up more later. This is a huge slip for d1 though, two scum caught possibly.


Quoting so it doesn't get buried. What do people think of this? I find it very interesting for sure. Would any more experienced player like to point out if this is a slip, or if gryf is misleading town?

Go to mafiascum
Type in common tells in the wipi search
Go to mafia tells
Go to the d1 section
Congratulate me, and realize I'm pro


I dont mind voting annul he seems to fit a good amount of that criteria -_-
Should we wait or go now?
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 24 2011 02:02 GMT
#541
9.) Jackal may be mafia he is not playing his usual agressive, tunneling game, and is almost as subdued as in MiniMafia V


This is a really good point:

If we use playstyle analysis and an example as MiniMafia VII some things i noted as playing against him as mafia:

He was baiting us hard the entire game.
He was very aggressive (to the point we went for him as a high value kill)

However this high value kill could have cause him to be more subdued and want to focus on survival .

On the other hand he could be trying to acheve the same result of survival but with another aim.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 24 2011 02:03 GMT
#542
I also could be dead fucking wrong but well i prefer to be optimistic day 1.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
February 24 2011 02:09 GMT
#547
On February 24 2011 11:05 icemac wrote:
Show nested quote +
GMarshal wrote:
ok, go for it, please kill one of the most active players, the one who actually proposed a plan that is an alternative to "lets let GFs fuck us over, like in salem",if town is stupid enough to go with your plan and your lynch then I hope they realize their mistake in time to hang you.

Let me be frank, I think you are town, but how absolutely terribly you are playing almost merits a lynch, ffs you can't even seem to point out a major flaw in my plan aside from "it not how this setup is played! I know because I am a mafia god!".

I guess this is your master plan for surviving, make mafia unwilling to hit you by helping them along.

You want to hang me? post a goddamn analysis I can at least rebuff rather than these unsupported accusations that are "GMarshal is scum, because I say so" major, major FoS on anyone who goes along with your bandwagon


No, I'm not saying we hang you. What I'm saying is we keep the analysis for later where we actually have substantial data.


We can get plenty of data Day 1

Jackal posted our entire scum team in MMVII right before the Night post which ended the game. No lynch D1 by the way.

Votes are a huuuuuge scum tell when analyzed in the right way.
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