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CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
January 25 2011 20:59 GMT
#5
/in

I'm only in the XXXVI atm, so I'm allowed rite?
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
January 29 2011 12:59 GMT
#82
Hi everyone.

First of all, the Raiden reference. I don't see how it connects to the body disappearances. If you mean the ability to teleport, Raiden has the ability to teleport himself, not other things (at least in the games and movies, but I guess it can be interpreted).

Second of all, I got Kenpachi covered, I watched bleach and I liked the character. A few main traits are:
- loves battle, lives for it, but is fair, would not kill people with arrows or a wall
- uses his sword and that's about it
- is really fast and really really powerful, especially when he removes his eye-patch
- has a skewed view on honor, I can't really explain this, but basically he'll follow "honor" rules, but doesn't respect many things in general.
Also, if he would be killing something, there would be A LOT of blood around.

I did a quick look at the profiles and Gaara seems to be the strongest clue (with the crushing and sand and all), but I didn't have time to carefully analyze all of them yet.

Will be back in the evening for more hunting.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
January 31 2011 02:36 GMT
#146
Crap.

Sorry for missing the vote. I've been working on my dissertation paper all night. I forgot to check this as well.
I'm really sorry Elesbee.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
January 31 2011 23:47 GMT
#160
you're right. I'm bad at weekends. And this time i had a horrible monday as well. I'll try and pick up the pace tomorrow.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
February 01 2011 10:30 GMT
#193
Actually it's god of thunder, so that one is more than a bit of a stretch, but I agree the other two can point to me, somewhat.

Some relation to Gaara:
"he was rejected by his peers and fellow villagers for being the host of a tailed beast" - legos
"Gaara's development from this state into a highly withdrawn, sadistic character" - exterminate them all
Also, the snow trails could represent his lonely path to finding adversaries worthy of battling.

But ignore that, let's get to the good part.
Dr.H.

1. Music -> Thom Yorke - check
2. Legos -> Thom Yorke is in a band, might imply that
3. Apocalypse now -> The Motion Picture Soundtrack (song on OST of Apocalypse Now, the movie) was made by Radiohead, and guess who is the lead singer for Radiohead? Thom Yorke.
4. Hocus Pocus / Cards -> Radiohead has a song called "House of Cards"

Need I find more?
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
February 01 2011 10:37 GMT
#194
P.S.:
[b]##Vote DoctorHelvetica[/]
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
February 01 2011 10:37 GMT
#195
erm...
P.S.:
##Vote DoctorHelvetica
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
February 01 2011 14:42 GMT
#197
On February 01 2011 23:30 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
3. Apocalypse now -> The Motion Picture Soundtrack (song on OST of Apocalypse Now, the movie) was made by Radiohead, and guess who is the lead singer for Radiohead? Thom Yorke.


I can't seem to find this anywhere. I mean, I can find the song and I know when you google it+radiohead you get a video of the sound+AN but I can't seem to find the track listed on any of the OST


Yeah, you're right, it doesn't seem to be in the official OST.
I just saw the video posted on youtube, vimeo, and other sites.

But it still can't be dismissed as a clue just because it's not on the OST, just not that strong of a clue. Which is what you'd expect from LSB in the first place.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
February 01 2011 17:37 GMT
#201
...umm... so Lego + Drop the bomb sound like they are connected to MK, but Music (thom yorke) + Video of Apocalypse now with Raidohead soundtrack as one of the first results in google for apocaylpse now + House of Cards are not good references.

Not scummy at all there buddy.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
February 01 2011 17:42 GMT
#202
P.S.:
Q from Star Treck also fits all your findings:
#1. He could end all life, give life, etc. => He could easily cause apocalypse
#2. Legos! He was playing with Picard, changing the flow of time, etc.
#3. Magic... well... supernatural abilities, like you said.

Is anyone seriously buying this? Dr.H is clearly tied due to Music + Apocalypse now. There's no way that both of them are wrong.
Show me a better connection than Apocalypse Now / Radiohead video. How the hell does "Apocalypse sounds like Armageddon which is part of the tile of a MK movie" fit better than googling: Apocalypse Now Radiohead -> BAM.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
February 01 2011 17:51 GMT
#205
Ok. Fine. Since you're so sure, we'll lynch me first. Then, when I flip green, town lynches you and DrH. Deal?
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
February 01 2011 18:02 GMT
#207
Well I'm sure I'm green and that the clues do not point to me, and I don't mind analysis on myself either, but the way you are dismissing the clues on Dr.H which are far more obvious seems extremely scummy imo.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
February 01 2011 18:45 GMT
#214
Right.
So you're dismissing one clue because it's a fan-made video, as if it it's not on the OST, it doesn't count.
Fact: If you google Apocalypse Now Radiohead, you will see the video.
Fact: There is a photo with a music sheet, your character is strongly connected to music.
Fact: There is a song by Radiohead called House of Cards.

These are not... lyric related, this is not vague like saying "oh well, see, they had a concert in Denmark, which is where legos come from". No. This is quite directly related:
First result in google / Music sheet / Song name

Oh, and nice touch asking to lynch because he is "bad", so then when I flip green you can say "oh he was bad that's why we lynched, not because he put the FoS on me and darmousseh.

And speaking of which, how exactly am I being bad? Are you saying that NONE OF THE THREE CLUES can be rationally related to you, and that I'm just making shit up to try and get out of a lynch?
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
February 01 2011 18:50 GMT
#215
P.S.: Before you go on and vote for me feel free to analyze the other two minigames I was in: King Maker (mafia, won) and Assassin in the Palace (town, lost).
I tend to be more aggressive when I am town, not that that's a sort of excuse, but if you're saying "well he's probably a bad town but let's lynch anyway" in a setup where there's 9town and 2red... then you're not really pro-town either, are you?
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
February 01 2011 20:53 GMT
#226
On February 02 2011 05:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2011 03:02 CubEdIn wrote:
Well I'm sure I'm green and that the clues do not point to me, and I don't mind analysis on myself either, but the way you are dismissing the clues on Dr.H which are far more obvious seems extremely scummy imo.

chainsaw defense
doesn't directly defend himself but focuses on his bad campaign
uses the classic "im so sure im green/when i flip green you'll be sorry" which makes wishy washy players doubt

classic and obvious


Yet, when I did that in the other games, I always turned out town. Go figure.

Also, It's not chainsaw defense. I'm defending myself by saying that the way he is tying clues to Raiden is [way] more far-fetched then the ones pointing at DrH.

And you can go defend yourself, you can say that they're not related, but if you try to turn it on me, then you better have some very good reasons to do so. Basically, you're turning it on me because I voted for you. That's all. You have no other reason other than "you're playing badly", and I'm playing badly, not because I stretched out on the clues analysis like your buddy, but because there's no possible way I'm town? Really? That's the reasoning?

I don't mind it when people defend themselves, but when they do that by trying to turn it around on whoever FoSed them, it's a sign of scum.

Sad part is, people probably won't consider you as a target even after I flip green, so you don't have much to fear anyway.

I didn't participate at all during day one, I didn't even vote and risked being Mod-killed, even though I was online, because I was simply too busy and forgot I was playing in this. You really think that if I was scum, my partners wouldn't PMed me or something?

Anyway, LSB could just like that song OR that movie and thought it was obscure enough to use it as a clue. The fact that it's right there in your face when you google for apocalypse now radiohead, is too much of a coincidence. I'm sorry, it just is. And couple that with the music sheet, house of cards, it points to you more than it points to ANYONE ELSE in this game. And trust me, I looked. And I'm saying that, if the only other option that town found was that they point to motherf*ing RAIDEN, GOD OF THUNDER \o/, then the town deserves to lose. ^_^

And yeah, I'm a radiohead fan, not a "hardcore" one, but I don't see what that has to do with the game.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
February 01 2011 22:19 GMT
#237
On February 02 2011 06:25 GMarshal wrote:
DoctorHelvetica may have a point with the fact that almost anything can be tied to him if we stray too far away from just the main Wikipedia page related to Thom Yorke, I mean look at it this way if you look at the album In Rainbows you get "15 step" which could easily be related to the tracks in the snow, bodysnatchers which can be tied to the Lego aliens, House of cards, which was already mentioned. A musics score which can obviously be related to a band.

But to get any of these you have to go and research their albums which I think is too much of a stretch, I suspect that the clues are drawn straight from the Wikipedia pages. Foe this reason the clues pointing at Cube convince me much more.


Fair enough, I agree to what most people say, it's not 100% fool-proof. But to me, at least, it sounds more clear than the ones that are pointing to me, which can be applied to Q just as well (as I posted previously).

Also, I didn't do a lot of research at all. I read what people said, I saw the music sheet, and I remembered that House of Cards was a Radiohead song, so I just googled Apocalypse Now (i didn't see the movie, but someone pointed out that the image was from it) and Radiohead, and I got the video. It was literally less than one minute "research", and it's far easier to get at than most people make it seem. And the song name is a song name, not a lyric, that would be indeed very obscure.

And if you think about it, it's possible that the clues DO point at radiohead song titles (15 step / House of cards / etc), and that's the connection, while one of them doesn't, like the legos. You can't just dismiss that as a possibility, that's all. And if I had to pick between the top two suspects (me and drh) who should I pick?
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
February 02 2011 10:53 GMT
#260
How the heck am I lying. It took me like 1 minute to come up with all three clues, and I posted. The video is there first page, my only fault was that I did not check the original OST of the movie.

And to me, that's still a dumb reason as to why it can't be a clue. Please.

Basically, you're thinking that I was mafia and I did the follwing:
1. Hmm... music sheet, I could incriminate DrH
2. Cards... well, radiohead must have a song with cards... House of cards, awesome.
3. Now, if there would only be a way to tie up something else to him... let's see.. these guys said the picture is from Apocalypse now... Gee, I sure hope that if I Google Apocalypse now Radiohead there will be a freaking music clip there on the first page!. OH LUCKY ME!

That's absurd.

If you guys don't think these are reasonable clues, FINE.
If you guys think the clues better point to Raiden, FINE.
But don't fking say I'm a bad player and I suck @ town because I found actual relations from the clues to one of the profiles.
None of my clues are nearly as bad as the ones pointing at raiden. None.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
February 02 2011 20:31 GMT
#288
I don't understand this.
I get that you think I'm wrong about Dr.H. But you can't possibly think I'm SCUM.

What the hell, I mean coagulation or kenpachi "got away" with way scummier play than me <focusing> on some clues. I admit, I did focus on that. I admit, I STILL believe that the clues point to Dr.H.
If you think I'm thick headed then fine. If you think that when Dr.H is scum he will act super-scummy, then you're dumber than you think I am.

You don't wanna lynch him, fine. But I'm town, don't waste a fking lynch on me. What are the goddamn reasons?
He focused on some clues he found. He must be scum because the clues are unreasonable.
Right.

I'll go back to my initial statement, this town deserves to lose. -_-
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
February 02 2011 20:33 GMT
#289
NODE I TRUSTED YOU!
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
February 02 2011 20:54 GMT
#291
On February 03 2011 05:40 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2011 05:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 03 2011 05:16 darmousseh wrote:
My guess is that chaoser, DrH and kenpachi are all green. We did well voting based on clues day 1, no reason to vote based on thread analysis just yet. If cubedin ends up green, then we should start examining other options. I suspect that cubedin will turn up red though.


That's your call. I'm ready to start the thread analysis and I place more faith in that than these clues.


Please do start with post analysis, I really want to see what you come up with, unfortunately I'm terrible at it, but I'll do my best to make a competent analysis if it comes down to it.

However for now I still think that CubE should be hung just because of the information he will provide, along with the scumminess of his posts. Although the clue connection is kind of tenuous its the best we could come up with. (I do think he will probably flip red, in which case I don't think Dr.H is scum)


And if I flip green what information will you have?

How the fk is it unreasonable to tie:
Music -> Thom Yorke
Cards -> House of cards
Steps in the snow -> 15 steps
Apocalypse now -> Motion Picture Soundtrack

I understand. You're saying that the clues are "tenuous", but to go from that, to killing me because i'm OBVIOUSLY scum, is BAD town play. It just is. And, on the contrary to what you'll say afterwards "he played scummy", you'll know that it was a dumb move lynching me because of the way I tied clues to Dr.H. It doesn't matter if I was right or wrong.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
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