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gryffindor
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On February 05 2011 07:08 GMarshal wrote: I'm /in as well but only if its after XXXVI, since I can't play in 3 mafia games at once. ha, i'm in 2 just on an alt  | ||
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I have a town read already, but I will not disclose on who, and a casual suspicion. I will have to wait to see if I can pick up on any associative tells from them in the future. I might be reading too much into the situation. I do not want to tip them off to tighten up their game, though, as I want to see them lynched. I am not really for Day 1 policy lynches if the person is town. Does anyone have any meta on Coagulation? I don't want to lose a player to a mislynch, though I do not know his alignment. Can anyone help out on this? Thanks! | ||
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vote: Node | ||
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My vote was more for pressure than anything. It didn't really gain the reaction that I wanted. @Misder, why are you voting who you are voting? | ||
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but that's just me | ||
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Misder, can you give me a reference to your best town and best scum game? IGMEOY | ||
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On February 11 2011 23:17 deconduo wrote: Thoughts on setup: Ok time to get started. We could potentially have a lot of weird/crazy mechanics in play so we need to be on the look out for anything. As was stated before (by why), there been numerous different factions in his previous games: + Show Spoiler + Inismór Mafia 1: Role List: IRA: Godfather: Diana Abonba Grunts: Andres/ATPGuy English: Godfather: GH Grunts: Ituralde/Sasaki Kojiro Pro Town: Donney: Seamus Davey: FactionHeir Mairead: Reenk Roink Neutral: Padraic: AVSM Heilyn: 'khaan Artair: El Diablo ------- Grunts kill once per night. Once both were dead, godfather could kill once per night. Godfather showed up as innocent until they had performed a kill. Donney was the detective. Davey was the gossip person, leaving clues in the writeups. Later gained the ability to either protect/investigate/roleblock one person per night. Mairead was the doctor, but also a non kill target for Padraic. Later gained the ability to roleblock the person s/he protected if they were anti-town. Padraic: The generic Serial Killer, didn't have to kill Mairead though. Heilyn: Welsh boxer, survive one night kill. Only had to survive. Artair: Late blooming Serial Killer. + Show Spoiler + Inismór Mafia 2: Mafia members: A Very Super Market Askthepizzaguy Csargo spL1tp3r50naL1ty TinCow Australian Cult Members: Methos YLC atheotes Kiwi Cult Member: atheotes Scottish killers: Thermal Mercury Warman Doctors: Dr. Yaseikhaan Lord Winter the intern Renata the Emergency Room specialist. Joooray the Pyschiatrist French Kidnapper: Sigurd Arsonist: Reenk Roink Original carer of Wee Sean: Sasaki Kojiro Town Drunk: GeneralHankerchief Priest: Centurion1 Queen: Chaotix Special Townie: Diamondeye Detective: Scienter + Show Spoiler + Riftwar Mafia: Role Allocation: I gathered the list of players, randomised the list via random.org 10 times, then simply matched that to my role list. First Group: Mafia Faction, Midkemia, The Nighthawks. Group of Assassins, using crossbows and swords, wearing black clothing, poison rings and sometimes teeth, with hawk medallions. Yasaikhaan Renata Centurion1 Second Group: Mafia Faction, Midkemia, Murmandamus and followers. atheotes: Murmandamus. Panthanian priest disguised as a Moredhel, objective to bring his 'goddess', Alma-Lodaka, back to life. Crazed Rabbit: Murad, unable to speak, as he cut his tongue out to prove his loyalty. A1_Unit: Gorath, secretly traitor, had to find Arutha to bring public knowledge of the second group to light. Secret Roles: Askthepizzaguy: Banath, God of Trickery, the hopeless quest and patron of thieves. Had semi-disguise as The Blue Rider, who is later known as Nakor. Chaotix: Sarig, dead god of magic. death is yonder: Alma-Lodaka, Valheru, creator of the Panthanians. scottishranger: Nalar, trapped god of evil. Able to force people to do almost anything, they showed as confused or with a strange look on the faces in the write up. Pro-town, Midkemia Greyblades: Pug (Keep orphan, turned master magician) Sigurd: Tomas (Pug's best friend, half Valheru, due to his armour) Beskar: Macros (The Black Sorcerer) Sasaki Kojiro: Algaranna (Elven Queen) Sprig: Calin (Elven Warleader, son of the Queen) Csargo: Tathar (Eldest Spellweaver) Elite Ferret: Arutha ConDoin, Prince of Krondor Major Robert Dump: Martin ConDoin, Duke of Crydee White_Eyes:D: Lyam ConDoin, King of the Kingdom of the Isles rhawn: Jimmy the Hand, later Squire James then Duke James of Krondor Joooray: Laurie, ex Tsurani slave, bard. Third Group: Mafia Faction, Kelewan, The Minwanabi House A Very Super Market: Lord Desio of the Minwanabi Khazaar: Lord Tasaio of the Minwanabi Shlin28: Teani, secretly traitor, agent of the Anasati Beefy187: Shimizu, Captain of the Guard Fourth Group: Kelewan, The Acoma House Zain: Lady Mara of the Acoma CountArach: Strike Leader Papewaio of the Acoma (Yes this is where our moderator papewaio gets his username from) Karo: Force Commander Keyoke, now Advisor for War, of the Acoma Fifth Group: Kelewan, The Anasati House johnhughthom: Tecuma, Lord of the Anasati GeneralHankerchief: Chumaka, First Advisor of the Anasati Sixth Group: Kelewan, The Assembley of Magicians Subotan: Shimone Captain Blackadder: Hochopepa Seventh Group: Kelewan, The Emperor and his bodyguards spltpersonality: Emperor Ichindar Double A: Magician Bodyguard A completely inoffensive name: Magician Bodyguard Eighth Group:Delayed Mafia Faction, Kelewan, Thuril Confederation LittleGrizzly Andres Reenk Roink Ninth Group: Kelewan, delayed pro-town group, Grey Warriors Iskander 3.1: Lujan KukriKhan: Saric Tratorix/Captain C: Dakhati Independants: YLC: Delayed Serial Killer, Cho-ja Lord Winter: The Upright Man It is not a stretch to assume there is going to be multiple factions of differing alignments in this game. However this is still speculation. The information we know for a fact is as follows: -2 Mafia Goons, 1 Godfather. Initially 1KP per goon, if both goons die then GF gets 2 KP. -No fool/idiot roles. -Each person is given a name/personality. These are taken from mafia players in the totalwar forums. I feel like we might be able to use the names like a weak clue system, but it will require a lot of research. Thoughts on people's votes/play so far: -fluffywhatever: Looks like an import from TotalWar? RNGs a vote on Misder as first post of the day. I don't like doing it but it seems to be common practice on the TW forums. -aidnai: Another RNG vote. Agrees with Node that coag is playing normally. -Coag/bum/ace: failsauce -why: I don't think I've seen him before, but so far I like his play. He did a bit of research into pever's previous games and called GCQ out on scummy play. Looks promising. -believer: edits, defends GCQ -darmousseh: I found him quite scummy initially in XXXVI, but that was more due to suspicious voting patterns than anything else, (sheeping scum  ) Votes Zerroth with decent reasoning. Seems good for now. Only problem I would have is that he is a bit lacking on activity, but its early yet. -gryffindor: Another possible import from TWI think? Claims Node defended coag where I don't think there was anything. Seems to be an experienced player that likes playing a lot of mindgames: + Show Spoiler + On February 11 2011 16:17 gryffindor wrote: I see Coagulation is spazzing out. Why are you spamming the thread? I have a town read already, but I will not disclose on who, and a casual suspicion. I will have to wait to see if I can pick up on any associative tells from them in the future. I might be reading too much into the situation. I do not want to tip them off to tighten up their game, though, as I want to see them lynched. I am not really for Day 1 policy lynches if the person is town. Does anyone have any meta on Coagulation? I don't want to lose a player to a mislynch, though I do not know his alignment. Can anyone help out on this? Thanks! On February 11 2011 18:08 gryffindor wrote: unvote My vote was more for pressure than anything. It didn't really gain the reaction that I wanted. @Misder, why are you voting who you are voting? On February 11 2011 21:42 gryffindor wrote: I don't like your OMGUS, and I don't like your response to me, you're my top scumspect. Misder, can you give me a reference to your best town and best scum game? IGMEOY misder: OMGUS votes fluffy. Maybe an overreaction, but seems like a weird move because he's not inexperienced. Node: Tries to stop the coag clusterfuck by pointing out that coag is playing normally. Tries to get the town back on track to proper discussion. Solid town play imo. This post stands out: + Show Spoiler + On February 11 2011 17:42 Node wrote: I don't follow what you said. You think my plan is to let Coagulation die (even though I'm apparently defending him), and then when we realize that he's not scum (which, as far as I know, we can't), come out and say "I told you so". Do I have it right? Today's Lynch: As for today's lynch, saying 'lynch coag cos hes bad lol 111!!' is a stupid idea. Zerroth is a much better candidate by all the reasons given by people voting for coag. He is known to lurk and not contribute from several other games. Vote: Zerroth I noticed you were suspicious of me in your post. Is it simply due to my experience? I don't really mind if a wagon forms around me; I'm sure it can be used to benefit us. I'm assuming this game is similar to the first game, but possibly edited somewhat. The 1/2 godfather/grunt mechanic seems very similar to that. Looking at all those games, in fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see really weird mechanics in play. The best thing to do as town is to roll with the punches, from my personal experience, when given a setup like this. That's all we can really do; It's tough on us without any information! At this point, all we have is speculation. Speculation on day 1 is just that... speculation. There is nothing solid for us to go on, little scumhunting that can be done, and the only real tactics differ just as people are different. On the extreme liberal side, there is voting lurkers. Somewhere in the middle, we have policy lynching. Or, on the conservative end, there is creating pressure on people who are active and can be held accountable. These players are often more prone to slipping up. I could be analyzing votecounts, and voting the person first alphabetically who has not voted/posted/appeared pro-town. This would be like fluffy using an RNG in his first post - it is null to me. People who do this are inherently anti-town while giving the appearance of being pro-town, and this sort of thing really needs to be snuffed out and nipped at the heels. I don't want to dip into basing alignment off of activity. Lurkers are going to lurk, and active players are going to be active, regardless of alignment. Remember that, folks. I could easily bandwagon Coagulation, and my vote and suspiciousness of Node was really just a ploy. Coagulation is one of my two solid town reads thus far, and *I* am willing to defend him. I wish Node would have stepped up to the plate a little better, if anything I am more suspicious of him being scum now than I was when this whole ordeal started. Sorry to go off on a tangent, but what I'm trying to say here is that I don't really like to ride policy lynches. I have been trying to shift towards the latter. I consider myself a conservative player, but people on this forum are not receptive to my style as town, apparently, as I have been drawing unwanted attention. I feel like John McEnroe objecting to a terrible call by a referee, right now lmao | ||
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The post on this page that I found scummy was by GGQ. I feel he is openly bandwagonning, just hopping in the waters without looking first. Being the 4th voter on the wagon, this is getting serious now, and his vote is anything but. | ||
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On February 12 2011 12:48 Ace wrote: I'm not worried about getting lynched. Hell I dont really care. But it's Day 1, a 30 player game with 3 Scum and not many people have been posting much. Your read on aidnai looks weak when taking this into context. Especially when nothing he has posted shows any strong Scum reading. What exactly is your case against him? Ace is using reverse psychology here. He is saying "I don't care if I'm lynched one bit, bro", when in fact, he really gives a damn. I was null on Ace up to this point, but I am going to have to lean towards him being scum right now. | ||
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On February 12 2011 14:15 beefy187 wrote: Vote: Ace Its my policy to vote for people who votes for me. I'll make them pay... Now I don't know most of you, but I'm glad that fluffy is behaving well... His my responsibility and its nice to see him playing properly. vote: beefy187 test | ||
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Vote: Believer | ||
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On February 12 2011 16:02 Node wrote: Yeah, this game is ridiculously lenient activity-wise. Usually I'm not a huge supporter of lynching inactives, but since they're basically never going to die off on their own we're going to have to use the lynch to either scare them out or kill them. Otherwise it'll be far, far too easy for mafia to hide among them. I actually agree with this in terms of scaring them out. Pressuring inactives through bandwagons is a valid strategy. If they aren't posting, though, and you notice it, you could ask the mod to PM them. If they respond to his prod, and don't post, then that is generally scummy. However, sometimes people are simply just inactive. It is not always the best to just gun for the easy targets; it is not efficient to always look low. Ace can be scum, just the same as someone who is lurking, so it is proper to analyze everyone somehow. I like that you are kind of doing this, though you could actually do something about it, as opposed to complaining. | ||
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On February 12 2011 16:36 Node wrote: My vote is on Insanious. What more would you like from me? I'd like to hear your thoughts on possible scumteam pairings. Who do you feel Insanious is scum with? He doesn't feel that scummy to me. Why do you suspect him? | ||
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