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Believer
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden212 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 06:24:08
February 11 2011 06:23 GMT
#154
On February 11 2011 13:54 Coagulation wrote:
why would you lynch someone who is a KNOWN active poster/contributor day 1?
and leave lurkers alone.
Are you kidding me?


Everyone has been new at some point, cut them some slack. Chill out!

Spoiler-tagging for long quote. :')

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On February 11 2011 15:04 why wrote:
I've read a couple of pever's game and it looks like there are tons of different alignments in play. For example, here is the role list for the Revenge of Irishmore which resulted in a cult victory (I think, there were multiple endings):

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Mafia members:
A Very Super Market
Askthepizzaguy
Csargo
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
TinCow

Australian Cult Members:
Methos
YLC
atheotes

Kiwi Cult Member:
atheotes

Scottish killers:
Thermal Mercury
Warman

Doctors:
Dr. Yaseikhaan
Lord Winter the intern
Renata the Emergency Room specialist.
Joooray the Pyschiatrist

French Kidnapper:
Sigurd

Arsonist:
Reenk Roink

Original carer of Wee Sean:
Sasaki Kojiro

Town Drunk:
GeneralHankerchief

Priest:
Centurion1

Queen:
Chaotix

Special Townie:
Diamondeye

Detective:
Scienter


Pretty sure that is 2 cults and a mafia team, and that was when there were 5 mafia members... I think we have to be ready for anything.

Anyway, back to the actual game. I don't know how you usually play, coag, but you are reacting really really defensively to votes that were little more than jokes that popped up because people were bored. Not sure if you usually react this way or there's some history involved, but its definitely setting off alarm bells.

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On February 11 2011 14:26 GGQ wrote:
Vote: Coagulation


And GGQ, I too would like at least some explanation of your vote on coag. Everyone else has at least a sentence explaining their vote.



Come on now, wouldn't you get aggravated if you were accused of something you were not?

He's probably just a bit on edge at the moment, let him cool off and he'll show a valuable asset in the future. :')
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Believer
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden212 Posts
February 11 2011 06:29 GMT
#156
On February 11 2011 15:27 Ace wrote:
well people get accused all of the time. Why panic?

Besides I don't see what the voting rules are in the OP. Is it Majority lynch or most votes to lynch?


Majority and most votes are the same thing, are they not?
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Believer
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden212 Posts
February 11 2011 06:31 GMT
#160
On February 11 2011 15:29 Coagulation wrote:
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On February 11 2011 15:23 Believer wrote:
On February 11 2011 13:54 Coagulation wrote:
why would you lynch someone who is a KNOWN active poster/contributor day 1?
and leave lurkers alone.
Are you kidding me?


Everyone has been new at some point, cut them some slack. Chill out!

Spoiler-tagging for long quote. :')

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 11 2011 15:04 why wrote:
I've read a couple of pever's game and it looks like there are tons of different alignments in play. For example, here is the role list for the Revenge of Irishmore which resulted in a cult victory (I think, there were multiple endings):

+ Show Spoiler +
Mafia members:
A Very Super Market
Askthepizzaguy
Csargo
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
TinCow

Australian Cult Members:
Methos
YLC
atheotes

Kiwi Cult Member:
atheotes

Scottish killers:
Thermal Mercury
Warman

Doctors:
Dr. Yaseikhaan
Lord Winter the intern
Renata the Emergency Room specialist.
Joooray the Pyschiatrist

French Kidnapper:
Sigurd

Arsonist:
Reenk Roink

Original carer of Wee Sean:
Sasaki Kojiro

Town Drunk:
GeneralHankerchief

Priest:
Centurion1

Queen:
Chaotix

Special Townie:
Diamondeye

Detective:
Scienter


Pretty sure that is 2 cults and a mafia team, and that was when there were 5 mafia members... I think we have to be ready for anything.

Anyway, back to the actual game. I don't know how you usually play, coag, but you are reacting really really defensively to votes that were little more than jokes that popped up because people were bored. Not sure if you usually react this way or there's some history involved, but its definitely setting off alarm bells.

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On February 11 2011 14:26 GGQ wrote:
Vote: Coagulation


And GGQ, I too would like at least some explanation of your vote on coag. Everyone else has at least a sentence explaining their vote.



Come on now, wouldn't you get aggravated if you were accused of something you were not?

He's probably just a bit on edge at the moment, let him cool off and he'll show a valuable asset in the future. :')


Thanks for the level headed outlook.
Also i should warn you editing post's will get you modkilled.




Oh I'm sorry. I'm quite new to this you see.

The edit I made was adding my response to you, so I didn't spam the thread. I can see how editing is very bad though. Just wasn't thinking!
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Believer
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden212 Posts
February 11 2011 08:36 GMT
#186
I think alot of people are jumping to conclusions here, not naming anyone of course.

There is yet much time left on this day, it might be worth biding one's time.
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Believer
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden212 Posts
February 12 2011 01:04 GMT
#266
Okay.
I'd like to clear something that people seem to get stuck on.

This is my first ever Mafia game and I really try my best to contribute in a nice fashion. I did edit my first post, 1 minute and 8 seconds after I had posted it. The edit was to add a response to Coagulation aswell as the other quote.
I didn't want to spam as I remember TL to be a quality before quantity forum. This was of course faulty and I realized that as soon as it was pointed out 15:29 (my post was 15:24:08), aka 5 minutes later.

Before you label me as someone who edits, which I have seen, just read the thread.
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Believer
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden212 Posts
February 12 2011 01:11 GMT
#271
These times are so wierd...

The day will end at 11:00 AM for me.
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Believer
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden212 Posts
February 12 2011 01:49 GMT
#279
Well there was pretty good activity about 12-13 hours ago, which was when I was awake.
Now it's 02:49 AM for me, I don't know if other people have worse times right now.

But there was some inactives I think? Someone wrote a list detailing some inactives.
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Believer
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden212 Posts
February 12 2011 04:01 GMT
#310
Spoiler tag for long post.

+ Show Spoiler +


On February 12 2011 12:11 Coagulation wrote:
Analysis of ACE

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On February 11 2011 12:15 Ace wrote:
oh and just to make things easier

Vote: Coagulation. Lets not take any chances with silly players :D



ok so game hasnt even started yet. no day post or anything i havnt even posted a seriouse post regarding the game and boom hes out the gates trying to get someone lynched


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On February 11 2011 13:04 Ace wrote:
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On February 11 2011 13:01 LunarDestiny wrote:
Coag is actually very good at scum hunting. He played ton of games.

He just don't like to write long post to convince others.


that means he's not good at scum hunting


people try to reason with him about his pretty lame vote attempt how its a bad start etc. pretty much ignores anyones opinion on it as shown here.



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On February 11 2011 13:24 Ace wrote:
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On February 11 2011 13:21 Coagulation wrote:
i dont know where you get this i dont wanna convince people shit.


cool so you aren't actually trying to help us find Scum then are you?

twists my words to make them sound negative.
maybe it was a bad phrasing on my part but im pretty sure anyone who reads that with a town outlook would read "i dont know where you get this "i dont wanna convince people" shit.
Hounding me about lack of scumhunting.
lets see how much scumhunting he has contributed as the game goes on shall we.


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On February 11 2011 13:32 Ace wrote:
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On February 11 2011 13:29 GMarshal wrote:
On February 11 2011 13:26 Coagulation wrote:
At this point in the game has ANYONE made an attempt to find scum??


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We are a whole 15 minutes into the game, by now you should have a very solid idea of who the scum team is and have come up a list that we can use to hunt them, the fact that you have failed to produce such a list makes you most suspicious in my eyes.


word

Ok no scumhunting here lets move on


On February 11 2011 14:10 Ace wrote:
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On February 11 2011 13:49 aidnai wrote:
Rofl...I see Kenpachi and Pandain are not playing, so I hate to say it Coag but you're our only viable day 1 lynch.

I see that there are only 3 scum, and there's no abstaining. We're almost certainly gonna be lynching a lot of townies this game. KP will be our best indicator of lynch success it looks like, though if we kill the GF we may not realize immediately.

I'm most interested in getting to know the new guys pevergreen brought over, so let's get down to business:
Vote: ELITECubWarman8
for being new and having such a long fricking name.


3 Scum vs 27 Townies is pretty much auto loss for Scum. So expect multiple Scum factions, Cults(ughh) or some really strong Scum powers.


pretty obvious statement here. anyone who has played more than 2 games of mafia will realize this right away. doesnt help us find scum at all.



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On February 11 2011 15:27 Ace wrote:
well people get accused all of the time. Why panic?

Besides I don't see what the voting rules are in the OP. Is it Majority lynch or most votes to lynch?

zero scumhunting.
and heres a little bit of what is commonly known as a scum tactic.
ask general and irrelevent questions regarding the game in a attempt to look like your providing content to the town.


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On February 11 2011 17:37 Ace wrote:
actually gryffindor he answered your question - even though if it was terrible since he never defended Coagulation. What he did wasn't even buddying. Why so jumpy sir? And it only took you 2 minutes between reading Misder's post and voting to come firm to this conclusion?

Are you voting just to vote or do you honestly think Node is scummy?


pretty much the only real post he has made so far with any substance.
however notice it is slightly tinted in a negative contrast. far from solid analysis or scumhunting that i would expect from a vet player like him.



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On February 11 2011 17:47 Ace wrote:
Actually a hard to read player is still bad

If you don't appear Pro-Town to me why would I want to keep you alive?


more contentless smalltalk. Zero scumhunting here folks.


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On February 11 2011 17:59 Ace wrote:
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On February 11 2011 17:56 Node wrote:
On February 11 2011 17:47 Ace wrote:
Actually a hard to read player is still bad


Speak for yourself.


if you dont agree then tell me why :D


Another Zero content fluff post with general conversation to make it look like hes contributing.
no suprise there is Zero scumhunting here


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On February 12 2011 06:54 Ace wrote:
The people voting for Zerroth should be DT checked on Night 1 for sure.

Anyway since our characters are based on what went on in the Totalwar forums, players from the totalwar website can you post and give us the characteristics or play style of some of the players there?

ALARM BELLS GOING OFF
YEAH SURE WE WILL CHECK WHOEVER YOU SAY. CAUSE CLEARLY JUDGING FROM YOUR POST HISTORY YOU HAVE AN INVESTED INTEREST IN FINDING SCUM. WE BETTER LISTEN.
also asking other people to scumhunt.
Fantastic work ace.
zero scumhunting here.


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On February 12 2011 08:37 Ace wrote:
Unvote Coagulation


MORE ALARM BELLS. was so fucking dedicated to vote me that he couldnt even wait for the fucking day post to get my name on the board. now he unvotes me and doesnt say a word about it.
You know what kind of players dont feel compelled to explain their reasoning behind their decision making. If you guessed scum you are correct.




I call massive bullshit.

Vote: Coagulation
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Believer
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden212 Posts
February 12 2011 04:57 GMT
#326
Unvote: Coagulation
Vote: Zerroth
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Believer
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden212 Posts
February 12 2011 11:43 GMT
#379
I do think time is up for the first day, right?

On February 12 2011 15:43 gryffindor wrote:
I really disliked Believer's vote a page ago, with absolutely no content with it whatsoever. I also didn't like seeing someone having a post edited earlier, and I was just informed that it was him in PM. I don't want to just go with the mold. I don't want to bandwagon. I want to lynch scum.

Vote: Believer


Try to keep a level head mate, voting for me won't do you any good.
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Believer
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden212 Posts
February 12 2011 13:38 GMT
#383
Now the real game can begin.

Sad to see that only 20 votes were in, out of 30 players. Although I guess we saw that coming, didn't we?
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Believer
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden212 Posts
February 12 2011 23:16 GMT
#414
On February 13 2011 07:59 SiNiquity wrote:
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On February 13 2011 07:41 Coagulation wrote:
SiNiquity did you even post a single time during the first day?
No. 100% inactive. thats unacceptable. Get off your High horse and get your shit together.
i pushed zerroth and had him lynched.
you will be next if you dont start posting.


Yes mum. Sorry mum.
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On February 12 2011 10:06 Coagulation wrote:
No problem man. everyone makes mistakes.

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On February 12 2011 10:07 Coagulation wrote:
this thread makes my nose tickle.

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On February 12 2011 10:08 Coagulation wrote:
believer i close you sleepy so sleepy

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On February 12 2011 10:09 Coagulation wrote:
Ahh 4 Post in row nice see?

-_-


Massive contributing so far mate, how about actually discussing with us for a while? Might be nice to really play the game, not just watch.


Did I somehow vote uncorrectly? I can't see my vote being registered. My post is in the middle of page 17, could someone have a look?

I agree with Coag that it seems fishy that GCQ would feel guilty/inexperienced enough to post that, it remains to be seen what can be done about that though.
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Believer
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden212 Posts
February 13 2011 13:04 GMT
#435
I guess that's it for the night phase then?

Sorry for barely posting anything, I really had no clue on what to contribute. I suppose the thing one can do now is hope they didn't die?
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Believer
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden212 Posts
February 13 2011 21:03 GMT
#461
On February 14 2011 05:43 aidnai wrote:
Wassup ACE?!?!

I'm going to full on role claim here, minus the red text of course.
Show nested quote +

You are Kagemusha

You’ve been around a long time. You’re a veteran, there is no doubt. But you’re also a bad kill choice. You see, back in the early days, there was a curse. “The curse of Kagemusha”. Whenever you were killed at night, the mafia immediately fell apart. Some say the curse still exists, others laugh...

You are Town
Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.


- Since my power was activated, I was being targeted as a kill, not a roleblock or anything else
- Since Ace was targeting me for the kill and he was affected by the curse which affects mafia, Ace was in fact mafia

My job here is done, if they kill me for realz they still can't shut me up lol
I highly recommend that any advice, opinions etc given by Ace from here on out be ignored.
Last thing to say, we'll hopefully know after tonight's KP if Ace was a GF or a grunt. I think probably a grunt was sent to kill, but Ace as GF is smart from mafia perspective so I dunno...



This does make some strange sense to me.

It could very much be a forgery but for some reason I do believe this to be the truth. Now only remains to figure out the reasoning for the second killing.
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Believer
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden212 Posts
February 14 2011 06:32 GMT
#499


On February 14 2011 08:50 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 22:22 pevergreen wrote:
The intruder quickly pounced on the surprised Bumatlarge, who was unable to react quickly enough to stop the intruder from rudely shoving a banana down his throat. The intruder held it there for a few minutes, until Bumatlarge's struggles finally ceased.


.org members....does this jump out at anyone? Death by banana?

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On February 14 2011 04:36 GMarshal wrote:
I will to continue those who I perceive as inactives

SiNiquity

post, post, post! I can't bear the inactivity!


SiNquity has been active in past games. I would hardly call him inactive.

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On February 14 2011 08:39 Ace wrote:
On February 14 2011 08:32 deconduo wrote:
On February 14 2011 08:23 Ace wrote:
I wasn't Scum. Don't you think it would be really amazing for me to die Night 1 as Scum by either Vigi/SK hit or aidnai's supposed power?

If I was Scum why of all people would I want to kill him?


Why target aidnai?


But all of this begs the question for kitaman27 - now that you know aidnai's alias is Kagemusha did that name appear in your PM?


I can confirm that I suggested to Ace the previous night that aidnai was scum. I must have been in a bad mood.




On February 14 2011 10:30 kitaman27 wrote:
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On February 13 2011 08:43 chaoser wrote:
Also, about my vote last time, the reason is a secret =p


Care to elaborate?

I didn't realize this game used only 24 hour day cycles. We really need to start discussing a lynch candidate. At this point, someone with 3 votes might end up getting lynched.
Show nested quote +

5 Zerroth (bumatlarge, chaoser, darmousseh, deconduo, ilovejonn)
3 Insanious (Insanious, JBright, Node)
2 aidnai (kitaman, Thefluffyone, Misder)
1 Beefy (Ace)
1 Warman (aidnai)
1 Ace (Beefy)
1 Brownbear (brownbear)
1 GCQ (GCQ)
1 Siniquity (GMarshal)
1 Believer (gryffindor)
1 LunarDestiny (LunarDestiny)
1 Kitaman (Mr. Wiggles)
1 misder (why)


The fact that everyone who voted zerroth didn't really think he was scum makes me feel uneasy. Then again, with so much inactivity and the lack of a strong alternate the mafia could choose to place their vote practically anywhere.

As many have guessed by now, my analysis of aidnai was fake. I cannot reveal the reason for doing so, however here is one pm I received.

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Misder
I'll agree that Ace does get extra attention and that I probably am a bit biased because of that, as you stated. However, this is interesting actually, the scenario that you and Coag created. I'm actually waiting for a last minute vote, maybe even more. This could be a deciding vote for mafia. Judging by the fact that no one has actually bandwagoned hard so far could signal that neither are mafia. But we will see. I read your analysis btw. Its good from my perspective, I don't know what Ace is talking about. Also, the fact that neither of the two are actually addressing the accusations is very very interesting. Maybe both mafia?

I guess I'll vote for aidnai, but I think I'll put my vote on Ace next day.


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Misder
Though I do agree that you might need to strengthen your analysis a bit more. Maybe stress the part where its like "I'm think about doing something, but I'm not really going to do it".


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On February 12 2011 13:37 Misder wrote:
And as such,
Unvote Ace
Vote Aidnai

Yay for bandwagoning?


Apparently Misder bought into my fake analysis. After pushing for an Ace lynch, he was swayed enough to switch his vote to aidnai. Its almost as if he sounds guilty when posting "yay for bandwagoning". Finally, he sends a second pm telling me that I need to strengthen my analysis. It was strong enough to change his mind, but its almost as if he wants me to push harder to convince others. Its possible that he honestly believed aidnai and Ace to be scum, but we really need to start discussing viable lynch candidates.



When you are so adamant about nailing a specific person I myself grow suspicious. Of course it is possible that you really can't reveal it because it is your red but that's just one possibility.

This has become an increasingly intruiging game..



On February 13 2011 22:22 pevergreen wrote:


Lost in his thought, Kagemusha didn't stop in time, and bumped into another man.

"I'm sorry, I didn't see you there." said Kage.

"Its quite alright, my friend. I say, I picked up this sack earlier today at the markets, and its simply beautiful. Here, take a look."

As Kage got up on his tiptoes to see inside, TinCow pushed him, and Kage fell in.



Something that might be worth to investigate is this "TinCow"'s affiliations on the TotalWar homepage. Since he makes it quite obvious that it is Ace who plays TinCow there might be some clues on their forums. I'll snoop around and see if I can find something.
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Believer
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden212 Posts
February 14 2011 06:33 GMT
#500
Also, sorry for the "wierd" activity times, I'm from Sweden.
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Believer
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden212 Posts
February 14 2011 07:57 GMT
#512
Spoiler for long post, quoted the death of kita.
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 14 2011 16:47 pevergreen wrote:
The town was in a foul mood. Cries about the "Curse of Kagemusha" were heard, and to some they fell on deaf ears, others listened and thought, but most simply heard and ignored.

kitaman was browsing the web, taking a break from participating in the conversation. He just got an email from his best friend in the whole world. It was a link to a cool new website.

When the page finally loaded, kitaman dropped his laptop. He had started convulsing. His hands and legs contorted and began to flail around. He dropped from his seat and foam came out of his mouth.

Unfortunately for him, no one managed to help him in time.

As they carried the body of kitaman out, a face in the crowd saw it.

"pevergreen died?"

Multiple people nodded in confirmation.

The man's eyes narrowed.

"This is all I have to say:" he said,





Alive: 25/30
deconduo
SiNiquity
Misder
GGQ
JBright
gryffindor
Project Psycho
Johnhughthom
ELITECubWarman8
Believer
BrownBear
Coagulation
Insanious
thefluffyone93
Beefy187
SouthRawrea
Mr. Wiggles
chaoser
GMarshal
darmousseh
ilovejonn
why
aidnai
me_viet
Node

Lynched: 1/30
zerroth (Strike for the South)


Killed: 3/30
bumatlarge (TheSpartan)
Ace (TinCow)
kitaman27 (pevergreen)

Suicided out of despair: 1/30
LunarDestiny (Louis VI the Fat)



Day 2 continues. Day will end at Monday, Feb 14 11:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)

Less than 4 hours remain in this day phase.



Okay so kita's affiliations betrayed him because of some failure? That's my guess.
This is quite the irregularity, day kills seem somewhat early to me. Although it could be justified by some reason I guess. Anyone care to chip in here?
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Believer
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden212 Posts
February 14 2011 09:09 GMT
#521
Looking over gryffindor's posts I find nothing but OMGUS votes or other nonsense. This leads me to a scummy feeling about him.

Vote placeholder, will probably change later:
Vote: Gryffindor
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Believer
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden212 Posts
February 14 2011 11:22 GMT
#525
Isn't it post and vote?


On a side-note pever, incredible game you played as Pikachu. I am baffled.
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February 14 2011 11:35 GMT
#527
I did read it, all of it. :p

Insane how fast TinCow caught on ATPG as his exact role, very impressive. Really too bad that you lost Renata under such circumstances.
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