TL Mafia XXXV

On December 27 2010 11:03 LunarDestiny wrote:
I think the framer role encourages dts to use check on lurkers.

On December 29 2010 08:58 Insanious wrote:
Few reasons why.

For starters seraph is an active and experienced town player, so losing him as a town sucks. The more experienced players like LSB, seraph, RoL, tree.hugger etc... live longer the better shot town has.

Next Brocket is posting vastly different then he did in Pokemafia, which points out different behaviour between his town play and his play now.

As well, Brocket is not a strong town voice, meaning between losing Brocket and LSB, Brocket hurts less.

Finally, most people have read the case for not lynching LSB now that wasn't there when RoL brough up seraph. Meaning now people are looking for a way to switch off of LSB. There wasn't a good candidate to switch to before brocket.

Annul is town
Seraph is experience
d3 is being voted for by pandrain when no one is really listening to now

Then there is Brocket, random inactive who is playing vastly different then he did when he was town. Best choice offered.

If there was someone better to vote for I would, and I will be the first to vote LSB come day 3 if he doesn't prove that he is blue.

On December 29 2010 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

Actually I'm voting LSB becuse I had suspicions of LSB before Annul even started posting, when he came out with his comments and several people agreed with him it validated my concerns. LSB's defense has only cemented my view of him. More concerns I have is that LSB claims a blue and everyone believes him when it's the oldest trick in the book for a mafia about to get lynched. Another thing I don't like is how all of a sudden people are crawling out of the wood work to accuse people who really haven't done anything to bring suspicion on them other than acting like disinterested townies who are disapointed they didn't get a blue or red role. The case against brocket feels like a mafia attempt to pull votes and save LSB. In short, LSB had me suspicious at the start and has only gotten redder as the game has gone on.

On December 29 2010 10:19 Insanious wrote:

Its not pressure votes, its votes to have LSB not die tonight so he can prove he is a blue later... and we have a possability of hitting a red.

On December 29 2010 10:23 Insanious wrote:
There is still 2 hours left to vote, its not over yet... we just need to get some people to switch from LSB to Brocket, we have 2 hours...

On December 29 2010 10:30 annul wrote:
seriously the brocket vote has to be the dumbest idea possible at this stage in the game

why are we effectively giving up our day 1 vote? this is such a horrible idea it isnt even funny. what will killing brocket gain us? what information? none. none whatsoever.

taking down LSB however will give us a multitude of information.

On December 29 2010 12:03 Insanious wrote:
So LSB fliped blue... here is my current game plan:

1) Vote Paindain because of how he acted when we started to vote for someone that wasn't LSB. This to me seems like the mafia are trying to get a 5th KP by killing LSB a claimed blue who is active. So Paindain looks like the most like a mafia to me.

2) Ignoring Annul for rest of game. He got tunnel vision towards a blue, who even if he was red we shouldn't of voted for right now, we should of voted for in 2 days. He had a bad gut feeling, and ignored when people put forth good reasoning to not follow that gut feeling. Annul is about 99% likely to be a green. So he shouldn't be voted for... just ignored 99% of the time unless he finds something increadibly useful... not likely to happen after this debacle.

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Also... told you so... Annul listen to me more... I looked at this logically, you were attacking LSB. You were obviously wrong like 15 pages ago.

Brocket and Paindrain... one of them is Red and I assume its Paindrain.

On December 29 2010 10:48 Pandain wrote:


I vehemently disagree. FIrst off, LSB doesn't have a high chance of being blue, he's claimed everything from vigi to dt, and his supposed plan which no one knows what possibly could be he refuses to tell.

Furthormore now your saying that we're forced to either vote brockett or LSB, and previously you had been saying you were voting him because "he played differently."

Plus right now we can find out so much from LSB's flip. I know people usually say not to lynch for information but this is a special scenario. IT's all because LSB has claimed blue, and mafia know that, or that LSB is mafia, and they're trying to swing a bandwagon onto brockett to save him.

If LSB flips red- Great! We caught probably at least 3-4 scum who tried to swing the bandwagon onto Brockett, in addition to information from posting. Furthormore we caught a scum!
IF LSB flips blue LSB is not DT, so we don't have to worry about that. Why?
-Claimed very early to be blue, DT wouldn't have done that being most important role. Would've waited.
-Revealed pms where RoL said LSB might be DT, and hinted strongly because it was the only role that could fit the plan. Why would DT be so reckless, especially when he seemingly doesn't want to claim?

So we don't have to worry about losing a DT. So when, if blue, he would most vigi, then that's not even that bad of a loss. But most importantly mafia would be wanting him dead, since he's blue, and they know it. So people who voted for LSB should be looked upon with suspicion, myself included.

But again I would like to stress people that LSB is 99% not blue, that he is 99% red. And I urge you to read my analysis I made of him, and realize whats happening here.
Vote LSB. Stop the Bandwagon.

On December 29 2010 12:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
so pandain is scum because he was wrong? that is a very stupid idea.

On December 30 2010 07:11 Pandain wrote:
~snip~
Mr-Zergling: Very unsure in his posts, not making any strong opinions. More importantly when he was under the impression day had ended early, he said "sorry LSB, too late." Besides possibly(note that word) showing that he knew LSB was blue, the fact that before hand and after hand he hadn't been helping. Compare that with his previous post saying he only contributes when he feels he can. The only thing saving him is that its semi-consistenent with his previous play in games, but major FoS on him nonetheless.
~snip~

On December 30 2010 12:58 Node wrote:
For now I'm voting Pandain, as his antics have done little more the cause confusion and split the vote a bajillion different ways. I'll move it pending a more convincing case.
~snip~

On December 30 2010 14:34 Node wrote:
You guys are seriously still having this argument?

At this point, it's irrelevant. The fact that we're still arguing that LSB is scum just makes me think the people dragging it up are suspicious.