I'd love to see a better plan than LSB's put together, but if one doesn't pop up before the draft order comes out then I'm just going to go along with LSB's. I can't imagine that just randomly picking roles without any significant oversight is going to be better than keeping tabs on everyone, since there are a few incredibly strong roles that mafia could pick up.

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United States2566 Posts

January 08 2011 00:09 GMT

#272

I'm with LSB on this one, Jimbo's plan isn't any better than his. Assigning roles we NEED to know the location of to the middle of the pack means that if scum sneaks in closer to the top and steals it there are a lot of potential places it could be. I don't really see what saying 'alright you six pick pro-town roles' accomplishes versus just laying out specific roles for each person to pick. Mafia knows exactly who they want to kill in the second case so we'd lose roles that way, but in the first there's a lot of potential for clashing so we'd be losing roles right off the bat. Either way mafia's going to be targeting that group first and we're going to be protecting them first, so we might as well make sure they're as useful as possible if we're going to use a plan like this.

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United States2566 Posts

January 09 2011 03:46 GMT

#309

I randomed [2][3]

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United States2566 Posts

January 09 2011 21:35 GMT

#376

...has anyone sent in roles? If they have, they should be unset and the deadline should be pushed back 12 hours or so.

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United States2566 Posts

January 10 2011 01:17 GMT

#393

I'll be taking alignment cop.

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United States2566 Posts

January 11 2011 00:43 GMT

#469

Fish if you're a master of switching personalities or whatever, could you try and make this one a bit more useful as the game goes on? No offense, but town has lost the last two games I've played because of inciteful, spammy posters that basically just distracted them and gave a bunch of false leads.

I mean, for now it at least gets people posting because there isn't a ton of information to discuss, but the CPR role issue still needs to be resolved, and no one's stepped up to say that their role wasn't available so it looks like everyone with an important role either got it or didn't follow the plan at all.

...until we get some night actions in though, I don't really know what to do.

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United States2566 Posts

January 11 2011 20:03 GMT

#577

Ugh, I don't know who to go with here. I don't feel like aidnai is a good lynch because he hasn't really done anything to deserve it. Yeah fishball called him out and he didn't react well to the pressure, and the whole defending LoR thing looked scummy for a second until people figured out that LoR is RoL. But nothing really jumps to mind that he's done.
LoR's getting votes for claiming he tried to pick traitor, but I don't see what lynching him accomplishes. If he's telling the truth, then we lynch a green and mafia gets to decide what role copycat gets (assuming their lynches go first at night, I'm not 100% how that works tbh) which is potentially dangerous. If he's lying and he did pick traitor then great, now we have a traitor copycat. With CC being in the top 4 (assuming jackal's telling the truth of course) then I wouldn't be surprised if a townie just made a dumb decision and picked it to deny mafia the role for some reason. Actually, let me rephrase: I wouldn't be surprised if kenpachi (as a townie) made a dumb decision and picked CC second.
...but, even though ken's being questionable for the third game in a row, he's such a high pick that on the chance he played this one well and picked a powerful role lynching him would be a really risky move this early on, before we know more about him.
Fishball's attracting votes because he's being loud and accusing people, but that's to be expected.
GGQ has been quiet, but it looks like he was quiet in XXXV as well-- and he /in'd as a replacement, it's not like he jumped on this game right away.

...so I guess aidnai is the best vote for the time being? It's at least not very risky, I guess. I'll be the first to jump off this bandwagon if something better pops up in the next eight hours, though :/

##vote aidnai

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United States2566 Posts

January 11 2011 20:03 GMT

#578

oh shit there was a lot of activity in the time it took me to write up that post

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United States2566 Posts

January 11 2011 23:27 GMT

#611

##unvote aidnai
##vote Kenpachi

yup.

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United States2566 Posts

January 13 2011 06:23 GMT

#807

On January 13 2011 13:47 kitaman27 wrote:

Show nested quote +

1. deconduo (possibly cpr)
2. Kenpachi
3. kitaman27 (vig)
4. Barundar (dead)
5. Jackal58 (dead, copy cat is above)

Doesn't look good for the top two. I question deconduo's unwillingness to hit kenpachi, but that may have been a judgment call.

The only reason I would consider sparing kenpachi is if he used his day vig power and hit a mafia.

You could be CC as well, of course :X

And do we know if the kills were reported in the day post in the same order that they were sent in or not?

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United States2566 Posts

January 13 2011 07:15 GMT

#811

Sorry, it's kind of hard to get a word in edgewise around here and most of the activity happens while I'm busy during the day :X

And, as was said at the time, your analysis was mostly ignored because it just looked like you were trying to save your own ass.

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United States2566 Posts

January 13 2011 18:06 GMT

#861

Is no one else really worried about the fact that either CPR/JOAT is completely unaccounted for? :X If we have one non-SK non-mafia hit, then CPR is probably out there in someone else's hands, and for all we know JOAT is out there doing whatever.

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United States2566 Posts

January 13 2011 19:03 GMT

#877

I'm with LSB. Lynching people because they've 'wronged the town' is ridiculous. Decon is on our side for the time being, focusing on him now is a waste of time. Ken is still a major suspect for being red, but likely is the godfather-- So traitor's either you, kita, fishball, or amber, and kita's likely vet.

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United States2566 Posts

January 13 2011 20:15 GMT

#885

Cub's claim is pretty legit, I think. Until we have really good mafia candidates.

The funny thing is, though we have good odds of finding the traitor even if we just guess, once we concentrate on killing him mafia has no incentive to try and convert him anymore, so he'll just die and mafia gets a night or two pressure-free. But, if we don't kill him, mafia is going to want to convert him-- and they'll do so pretty quickly, since he's easy to find (plus) and to find him they basically just have to swing around in the top eight (plus) until they hit the right person.

I dunno, this seems like a pretty shitty situation for town at the moment. As far as I can tell pretty much none of the blue roles we may or may not have have kicked in or done anything useful yet, and we're actually in a position to lose in the next day or two if we don't play this really well. Personally, I think going for the traitor is the best move here. He's not going to be too tough to find, and even if it takes more than just today to hunt him at least the blues can get some useful info tonight or tomorrow and that'll put us back on the right track. It's totally a judgment call, though-- I just don't see anyone who sticks out as scum atm.