On January 07 2011 09:08 LSB wrote:
Why we need the plan? Would happen with everyone picking what they want?
For starters:

There's going to be a few townies that get the role they want. Maybe there's going to be a Bullet Bill, and a JOAT.

There's going to be a whole bunch of townies that tried to pick the Bullet Bill and the Joat, but didn't get it so they just ended up green.

There's going to be a whole bunch of roles that are important left untouched because no townie decided to pick it.

It's going to be easy for mafia to pick up the roles they want. Just get a high draft number and start stealing.

You act like it will be so easy for mafia to get high draft numbers. Doing it this way allows them to downplay their draft numbers, giving them more comfort during the draft for roles that could be beneficial for them or detrimental for the town to lose.

Amber[LighT]

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January 07 2011 13:44 GMT

#233

I'm not comfortable playing a game where we anticipate that the mafia team is retarded. I'm not going to support this plan at all. There is too much risk involved with this plan. It can easily be picked apart by mafia since infiltration is way too easy, regardless of how much you want to downplay the likeliness of that scenario.

I really feel that you're playing this game assuming that the mafia players will just sit back, put their feet up, and say "well LSB said we should do this so playing along is definitely a good idea since it won't make us look scummy, even though his plan was created prior to the start of the game."

Amber[LighT]

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January 08 2011 20:36 GMT

#284

Just noting I did pick a random number, and everyone should do the same. Though I don't believe the role selection process (post-draft) should be unveiled to the entire town.

More importantly: Play the role you get. If you pout because you got townie and don't participate I will personally make your mafia-playing life a living hell and accuse you EVERY game in the future just because I like to be frustrating. It's actually more important for the town to fool the mafia and pick roles to limit their KP per night. Of course we cant discuss how this should go about because there are more roles in this game than players, so it would be too easy. The goal of this process should be to make the mafia as vanilla as possible, not to ensure every player gets a role they want.

GL in the draft...

Amber[LighT]

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January 09 2011 02:44 GMT

#298

[11][2]

Greedy Greedy

Amber[LighT]

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January 09 2011 19:55 GMT

#358

On January 10 2011 02:53 kitaman27 wrote:

Show nested quote +

Could you reconfirm those numbers Amber?

Also, you state you intend to RNG your numbers yet you end up with a "greedy" selection. Was that just a coincidence or did you decide to change your selection method?

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Suppose you RNG vig (or flat out pick it to deny town a power role). Then we have a top three clash, I wind up vanilla and a mafia ten spots down can anonymously pick up CPR and double their kp without us having any idea where it is. I don't think your decision is very pro-town.

I sent in 11/2

I actually picked 11 because I am 11 on the signup list.

I'm hoping this isn't a newb mafia tactic, because it's obvious there's some confusion. I would also hope Ace wouldn't make such a mistake. He's a little smarter than this, and probably would have said something immediately, even after I posted my numbers.

CubedIn is lying.

Amber[LighT]

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January 09 2011 20:14 GMT

#362

sry for the early FoS Cubed

Amber[LighT]

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January 10 2011 13:32 GMT

#423

I think looking into the draft numbers might be a lost cause. Don't forget that it would be in the best interest of the mafia to follow the plan. This ensures that they receive a role. I wouldn't be surprised if the more unique combination (higher ups) are mafia, but to be honest that's good player strategy to achieve a unique combination that throws them up to the top. People who have double are _less_ likely to be mafia, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't put down the same numbers to alleviate some suspicion.

The draft process was too transparent, so infiltration by the mafia is highly likely.

Amber[LighT]

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January 11 2011 13:20 GMT

#547

I think you should use your ability as a NK vs a saver ability. Think about the chances of you saving someone vs killing someone. Your ability has better usage for town KP when we want to snipe mafia members, or to ensure their death.

I don't think LoR should be lynched. It's obvious who should be lynched, as we don't have any conclusive evidence of their role choice or the choice of another players: Kenpachi & Barundar

He (Kenpachi) is playing scummy and defensive, which isn't all of a shock from his normal play. Chances are he probably is the copy cat. We have to weigh the possibilities that he's actually is the copy cat. Do we want him to have that power activated? I think since we've wasted time cornering the possible copy cat allowing him to obtain a usage for his role would be wasteful as he's going to be a sure-fire target for night 1, granted we accidentally list a power role today. Do we also want that power role in the hands of a mafia member?

Amber[LighT]

United States5078 Posts

January 11 2011 13:20 GMT

#548

btw I think you should use.... I was referring to Deconduo

Sry

Amber[LighT]

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January 11 2011 15:00 GMT

#554

On January 11 2011 22:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
##vote layoffrage

Heading off to work and won't be back tonight, but LoR is the safest lynch target for today. Out of myself, fishball and him we are most likely the three most experienced players, and I know i'm town, which means at least one of fishball and him is most likely red. Out of those two, LoR has given the most reasons as why he is most likely a better lynch target.

Lol that has to be the most garbage reasoning for lynching someone posted in this thread so far.

Isn't building your own credibility a scum move?

Amber[LighT]

United States5078 Posts

January 11 2011 19:59 GMT

#576

LSB, who do you want to lynch if you want to wait until night to kill LOR?

Amber[LighT]

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January 12 2011 01:25 GMT

#656

##vote: aidnai

Amber[LighT]

United States5078 Posts

January 12 2011 13:35 GMT

#717

The last time I argued someone who accused me I accused them back, provided evidence, and then got killed, only to have the town barely think of that person as a suspect until LSB finally moved in to get the lynch done.

Do I think Aidnai is mafia? Meh probably

Did I think Aidnai was more suspicious than LayOffRage? Yah definitely

We are accusing people for telling the truth, meanwhile we have the biggest shady characters running the show right now.

Kenpachi I don't understand why you chose a role that you didn't understand. Aside from that the JOAT ability would have been a much cooler ability than some random roulette ability.

Note to the town: I should be protected tonight. The copycat will be able to take on a strong role tonight. Kenpachi SHOULD DIE tonight. Deconduo I think it would be a good idea to CPR him. Copycat is a strong ability in the hands of the mafia. Roleblocking is an even stronger ability in the hands of the mafia... just saying...

Amber[LighT]

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January 12 2011 13:38 GMT

#718

On January 12 2011 09:08 Kenpachi wrote:
Yea. im not CC or JOAT

WTF is this?

Amber[LighT]

United States5078 Posts

January 12 2011 13:39 GMT

#719

On January 12 2011 14:02 Kenpachi wrote:
OH NO I REREAD COPYCAT AND IF I DIE FIRST, THATS NOT GOOD FOR TOWN :<

Thanks for lying. We lynched a vanilla and we have a copycat running around who is clearly more than suspicious.

Amber[LighT]

United States5078 Posts

January 12 2011 14:21 GMT

#721

Harry Potter mafia.

And look at the above quote of Kenpachi, and the quote directly following it in my post. That's what I'm referring to w/ the lying.

Amber[LighT]

United States5078 Posts

January 12 2011 17:31 GMT

#726

On January 12 2011 23:39 Barundar wrote:
We are getting side tracked, but you where wrong on your last accusation regarding deconduo in HPmafia before we killed you off