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I’ve read this + Show Spoiler + On November 30 2010 13:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: To discuss the other roles in the OP I don't think there was an additional lover. I think this acted as a conversion role. "born anew" implies a change in roles from one alignment to other, and since there is no third party and I doubt a mafia got converted by a townie, I think it means one of the mafia just recruited a townie against us. The way the town/mafia ratio is set up it doesn't give us initial start counts or anything, just tells us how much mafia there are in the game, assuming the conversion can't fail then it would be three regardless. I imagine the mafia can choose as to when they do it and the person they choose retains their power this would give the mafia incentive to WAIT on the conversation, but then it might be OP, so there might only be a certain amount of time they can wait for the conversion, but its mere speculation. ... So to summarize, I think there is a mafia conversion power in the lover, judging by how it was used. A Vigi variant in the hooded man, and a possession power in the spirit role. What's everyones thoughts on beggar? Some sort of information role? I’m going to vote for Aidnai for now, his post does seem to paddle through the same sentences a few times on a closer look. #vote Aidnai PS: Pandain time to post :-) | ||
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The role on mafia wiki that most resembles a beggar: http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Hobo | ||
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On Aidnai, this might be mafia slip-ups: On November 30 2010 06:53 aidnai wrote: How are we supposed to muster up 8 votes when there's three mafia? Seems a little crazy... On November 30 2010 06:59 aidnai wrote: Oh jeez nevermind, I seem a little crazy... I thought there was only 9 townies (12 total)... yet another reading comprehension fail. Anyway, gl everyone, hope I don't get killed night one again -_- Notice how he make himself more guilty than the mistake entitles, and drop a “I’m town” hint. | ||
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Somebody has been born anew with the power of love. Another student got his Pharmocology degree. was posted at the same time and could be related. Say 1 person "fell in love", and decided to fall in love with person 2, who was our Pharmocology student. By choosing person 2, person love gained his power of pharmocology. | ||
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On December 01 2010 07:10 Pandain wrote: This? This is why your lynching him? Because he made a mistake? You're reading at stuff that isn't there, and saying he hopes he doesn't get killed again is not scummy at all. That is not the post where I posted my reason and gave my vote, this one is: + Show Spoiler + On November 30 2010 20:39 Barundar wrote: So if I understand this lover/sibling mechanic right, we have a group of players, not necessarily mafia, who will always try to swing votes away from each others? But they do not know if each others are town or mafia? Will make it harder to interpret vote swings >_< I’ve read this + Show Spoiler + On November 30 2010 13:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: To discuss the other roles in the OP I don't think there was an additional lover. I think this acted as a conversion role. "born anew" implies a change in roles from one alignment to other, and since there is no third party and I doubt a mafia got converted by a townie, I think it means one of the mafia just recruited a townie against us. The way the town/mafia ratio is set up it doesn't give us initial start counts or anything, just tells us how much mafia there are in the game, assuming the conversion can't fail then it would be three regardless. I imagine the mafia can choose as to when they do it and the person they choose retains their power this would give the mafia incentive to WAIT on the conversation, but then it might be OP, so there might only be a certain amount of time they can wait for the conversion, but its mere speculation. ... So to summarize, I think there is a mafia conversion power in the lover, judging by how it was used. A Vigi variant in the hooded man, and a possession power in the spirit role. What's everyones thoughts on beggar? Some sort of information role? I’m going to vote for Aidnai for now, his post does seem to paddle through the same sentences a few times on a closer look. #vote Aidnai PS: Pandain time to post :-) I do respect you as a more experienced player, but I posted my reasons for voting for Aidnai, and I haven’t seen any counter arguments, not even a defence from Aidnai. Feels like you are just trying to diminish my opinion. | ||
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I feel really sorry for Glasse though, I think he has been unlucky with being the target a bit too often  . | ||
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Secondly I initially voted for Aidnai, because I saw a post which basically repeated itself "no town circles, no town circles" and "discuss don’t spam, discuss don’t spam, discuss don’t spam", which obviously is a contradiction in itself. However my vote was by no means final, and I simply wanted his explanation. Instead we saw what I consider an attempt to blame fishball, and a ton of spam. This is what I consider the mafia panic response. If mafia had played it cool, my doubts would have been easily dismissed, and from what I can guess since he was weary as well, so would Aeres’. Aidnai’s defence came very late, and while it is decent, it came after the panic response. Thirdly the only other person I could be convinced to vote for is Ghrur. His attacks on Deconduo seems unreasonable to me. I too got annoyed at Deconduo’s vote tally posting, and called him out on it, but he responded convincingly straight away. However Ghrur is not the target that is being launched as a second candidate. This is also a reason for me to stick to Aidnai. Lastly I’m really sorry for voting for you Aidnai, I know how frustrating it is to get thrown out early, and I honestly wouldn’t have voted for you if RoL hadn’t spotted that post. | ||
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On December 02 2010 01:22 annul wrote: opz already has a "vote" on aidnai (through ROL) so you technically need to unvote first. also, there are 14 votes up and the day isnt over, so whoever hasnt voted must be "the hammer" its glasse. glasse is the hammer. which is lol because of what happened with him and his profile clues in haunted ;D but glasse is teh hammer. also i have changed my mind about orgolove. the corruption clue (if he is being honest) was written in all 4 colors, making me think it is a random effect and does not signal town or mafia or blue or miller. makes me think it is a random effect that happens. so orgolove for now is off my hook. i still like the fishball kill though for reasons iterated previously Last vote is Deconduo (Glasse isn't in the game >_<) | ||
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Secondly I initially voted for Aidnai, because I saw a post which basically repeated itself "no town circles, no town circles" and "discuss don’t spam, discuss don’t spam, discuss don’t spam", which obviously is a contradiction in itself. However my vote was by no means final, and I simply wanted his explanation. Instead we saw what I consider an attempt to blame fishball, and a ton of spam. This is what I consider the mafia panic response. If mafia had played it cool, my doubts would have been easily dismissed, and from what I can guess since he was weary as well, so would Aeres’. Aidnai’s defence came very late, and while it is decent, it came after the panic response. Node: + Show Spoiler + I am very, very confident that Fishball isn't mafia. I'd be willing to bet my life in this game that orgolove's vote being removed is a sign that mafia is trying to frame him. As for not moving his vote off RoL, come on, surely everyone realizes there's no way scum would waste a vote like that in such a small majority lynch game -- it's pretty clear RoL/~OpZ~ isn't going to get lynched. I'm thinking that mafia is just doing their damndest to bandwagon an inactive townie. I intend to follow through with RoL's plan, and am also willing to offer myself up for a lynch in the event that this doesn't work out. ##Vote aidnai Jcarlsoniv: + Show Spoiler + RoL, your points make sense to me, and I would like to find out if these are indeed scum tells. ## Unvote Coag ## Vote Aidnai Ghrur: + Show Spoiler + Hey look! RoL and I agree despite me never even reading his analyses. ^_^ Well, I guess we have a lynch candidate. ##Vote Aidnai In all honestly I don’t like that reason either. RoL: + Show Spoiler + Really, how can you miss this post? You even commented on it. Aeres: + Show Spoiler + RoL's analysis of Aidnai seems convincing enough. For now, my vote will stay on him, but as usual, this vote is still tentative. ##Vote Aidnai I find it suspicious that you can’t fail to read any of these posts by yourself, while you are completely certain of Aidnai. | ||
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Fishballs posts are pretty spammy and random, and SouthRawrea is a total goner, so they are both valuable targets. If town can’t decide on anything I could vote for them, but will you please have a look at RoL’s analyse of Aidnai’s posts first? Bedtime. | ||
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On December 02 2010 11:20 kingjames01 wrote: From the role list, the closest thing we have to a Doctor/Medic is a Pharmacist/Nerfed Medic. We don't even know if you can be protected the first night. Explain why you think you are worth protecting and what you have done that would make you a target tonight? I was the only one who stuck with Aidnai, and kept arguing for him after RoL left. Makes me an obvious target, like in Salem mafia. Also I claim detective (of a sort). I'm dissapointed you didn | ||
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