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AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
November 27 2010 14:59 GMT
#1
Ok, what's the story on this guy? He's one of the best players in Europe/Asia, and yet, twice, he has failed to show up at major events (IEM Cologne and now Dreamhack) because of "visa troubles". What's the story? I know it's difficult dealing with the Russian bureaucracy (I once had to wait 2 weeks to get a visa to go to St.Petersburg for 3 days), but c'mon? Does the guy have a criminal record or something?

Somebody should do an expose on this and get the down and dirty. Inquiring minds want to know.
frd
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France164 Posts
November 27 2010 15:01 GMT
#2
Clearly, he is a terrorist.
Phonics
Profile Joined October 2010
114 Posts
November 27 2010 15:02 GMT
#3
I'd go ahead and say that his criminal history is probably none of your business.
[SuNdae]
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Finland323 Posts
November 27 2010 15:03 GMT
#4
It's not about the Russian bureaucracy if you want a visa to the EU, they have nothing to do with it. You make an application to the embassy of the country you wish to visit and whether they give you one is up to them.
maybe
Profile Joined January 2008
252 Posts
November 27 2010 15:03 GMT
#5
its not only happened twice, theres always been problems sending top russians to international events (WCG,Blizzcon etc.)
my guess is it has to do something with theire criminal records
OPSavioR
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1465 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-27 15:06:55
November 27 2010 15:06 GMT
#6
I dont think a starcarft nerd can be a terrorist.
i dunno lol
gm.tOSS
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany898 Posts
November 27 2010 15:18 GMT
#7
On November 28 2010 00:03 maybe wrote:
my guess is it has to do something with theire criminal records

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Gryffes
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom763 Posts
November 27 2010 15:18 GMT
#8
Clearly he should emigrate to a more well regarded country.
www.youtube.com/gryffes - Random Gaming Videos.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
November 27 2010 15:19 GMT
#9
It could be because he was in the Russian Army ;-)
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AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-27 15:23:49
November 27 2010 15:22 GMT
#10
So how does this all work, exactly? He applies to Swedish embassy in Russia, then they do some kind of background check on him, to decide whether or not to give him a Visa? They contact the Russian authorities? Some computer database? What kind of window do they give you as far as time... as in, how long in advance do you have to apply?
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
November 27 2010 15:22 GMT
#11
Well they should just apply visa to Finland and then travel inside EU borders. Its much easier getting visa then. Some russian WC3 players did that when having problems getting visa to germany
AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
November 27 2010 15:24 GMT
#12
Heh funny you mention that, because that's actually what I did when I went to St. Petersburg. First I went to Finland, and applied at the Russian embassy in Helsinki.
AVV
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation20 Posts
November 27 2010 15:28 GMT
#13
nobody knows what the hell is with those visas. rox.kis menegers don`t say anything about it. i think the main reason is that he hasn`t got a job.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 27 2010 15:31 GMT
#14
On November 28 2010 00:19 G.s)NarutO wrote:
It could be because he was in the Russian Army ;-)


I think that is the case ;(
MiraKul
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Malaysia498 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-27 15:35:48
November 27 2010 15:35 GMT
#15
for IEM visa troubles : ANSWERS
ovrpwrd
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
November 27 2010 15:35 GMT
#16
There's barely been an international event without Visa troubles. Normally I would suspect that it's mostly a question of time, i.e. you have to apply at least one month ahead (or maybe pay a nice fee to get it faster) and you have to have a valid passport (getting a new one takes even longer), etc. etc.
Nyx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Rwanda460 Posts
November 27 2010 15:36 GMT
#17
On November 28 2010 00:35 MiraKul wrote:
for IEM visa troubles : ANSWERS


Yup, and his second failed application was because of his first.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 27 2010 15:37 GMT
#18
I was the same for Wc3 player Happy when he tried to attend different tournaments. I dunno why, but it seems Russians are having a hard time participating in foreign events.
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razy
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation899 Posts
November 27 2010 15:47 GMT
#19
On November 28 2010 00:03 maybe wrote:
my guess is it has to do something with theire criminal records


xDD
srsly guys ^^ he is like one of the most kind ppl in the world how can u claim such things when u even don't know him

Back in BW days Bratok was taken to russian army despite having some serious disease (and official documents proving it ofc but it's russia) then his friends\team managed to take him out of it somehow and he went ahead practicing ftw. His first visa deny was to Germany in 2008 and the official reason was "having no occupation after finishing college or university" (2 other finalists were denied btw so instead of having russia WCG08:BW top3 players perform we had top4-6 in the grand finals lol).

Some time after he went to Dreamhack winter using Finnish visa (that's how they usually do it in Saints Petersburg ^^). Due to crisis only he and his manager were able to go there out of whole team.

So when it came up to getting German visa again to go to IEM he got denied cause of some problem that popped out inb4 there was 1 day left for the tourney to start: German consul demanded the ESL CEO's inviting letter to be notary insured (or w/e is it called). There were several other strange requirements from him and ESL CEO had to send inviting letter 2 times using express delivery and stuff. Tones of calls to German embassy in Russia from ESL officials and rox's team managers didn't make that big of a difference.

When it came up to getting visa again for DH recently but he used his passport so guys in Finland saw 2 C1 denials (one of the most strict ones afaik) in German embassy. U can understand why he didn't get to Sweden the 2nd time. Although the official reason was "srs rule violation while using finnish visa before" but his manager traveled the exact same route Bratok did and was able to get his visa successfully.

I heard Bruce talking about this on diff streams. So it should be at least 90% true (knowing Bruce xD <3)
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
November 27 2010 15:48 GMT
#20
VISA troubles can happen for no good reason at all or that is related to the person.
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