EPTBC and RoL: Salem Mafia
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kitaman27
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On November 12 2010 11:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote: The voting cycle will be the TL standard 48 hour days, 24 hour nights. The cycles will end/begin at 11 PM EDT (8 PM PDT) (12 AM the next day KST). On November 12 2010 11:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote: The official time that cycles will begin/end at is MIDNIGHT EDT. Would the mods mind clarifying this? As Protactinium stated in the post above, don't let yourself get modkilled. A dead townie is even worse than an inactive townie. If you think there might be even a slight chance you won't be able to get your vote in, than put in a placeholder vote. When you forget to vote because you have other things going on, you are ruining the game for others. Unless you are a witch of course, then we don't mind. | ||
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kitaman27
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He makes a good point. We should lynch DoctorHelvetica due to his non-celebrity status. | ||
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On November 27 2010 07:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote: well i'm already in contact with a blue role so i'm still thinking about how to make this work. there is really no 100% foolproof safe way and in reality you want to get mafia in on the PM circle so that you can trap them easier the best thing is that only one person will know peoples roles and if I'm telling people about what others are saying I'll refer to them only as "the medic" "the DT" etc. Am I the only one puzzled with the fact that a medic role claimed blindly to DrH without knowing his alignment? | ||
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On November 27 2010 05:41 SouthRawrea wrote: I encourage people to reread their roles and ask about changes because I've noticed and asked (a) change(s) regarding certain role(s). I will not post the one(s) I've found to avoid revealing my role in the case where the information I've obtained is only available to the person with the role. Ya it looks like the mods might have copied/pasted without modifying the entire role for Salem. We really shouldn't put up with their laziness. Also, it might be beneficial to post if anyone has pm'd you fishing for role claims, as it would make sense for a mafia to try, now that DrH has posted a medic was so willing to give it up. | ||
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On November 27 2010 12:18 ghrur wrote: God, the fact that Dr. H has been claimed to already is so screwed up. >_< I'd suggest checking him, but if he's mafia, then obviously he's going to become Elder. But then again, it'd be SO dangerous to have mafia just control a blue role for their own protection to be killed at their leisure. I say DT should still check him (no risk of suicide bomber), but even if he comes out green/blue, be wary. Be SURE to analyze his posts. I think that would be a waste of a dt check. As one of the few veteran players in this game, odds are he is going to take a hit early on. Dt checking someone that is either likely Elder or soon to be dead would only slow the development of the circle. On November 27 2010 12:18 ghrur wrote: *sidenote* as for lynching, I think we should pressure Pandain. He's usually a very active player, and he's inactive right now. I get black friday, but Pandain hasn't made a useful post since the game started. Also, it's been shown that he cracks under pressure as mafia.  Beneficial results? I think so! ^_^The lynch is going to come up on us fast so we really should start talking about individual targets. Realistically, we have a couple of hours tonight and then about 6 hours tomorrow in the late afternoon/early evening, as the thread will probably die during the morning hours. Leaving this decision to the last few hours would present a much easier opportunity for mafia influence. With only 5 pages in 24 hours things really need to get moving. | ||
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On November 27 2010 12:46 DarthThienAn wrote: I has solution to all that has been said in the last few posts... See the voting thread for details. And how is that a solution? Either you see something that I don't or you are starting an incredibly weak bandwagon. On November 27 2010 12:46 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I'm not going to reveal every single PM I get, but it's getting ridiculous that I'm being twisted as scum just because another player chose to roleclaim to me without prompt. If someone can explain how the medic claim is a good mafia play and how it will ruin us/hurt the town circle then that's fine. Don't forget your anti-spam promise from Insane. No need to reply to every single random attack if they are unwarranted. : ) | ||
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On November 27 2010 13:04 ghrur wrote: Which is exactly why I think we should pressure Pandain atm. We need to get people posting, and fast. We should also coordinate our pressure because everyone "pressuring" 1 person doesn't really apply pressure. Also, I know Pandain can be an asset to town if he became active. I just want him to get there faster. That aside, what're your views on who we should lynch day1? I wouldn't mind hearing what Mr. Panda has to say either. Or anyone that has yet to post for that matter. I would be more suspicious of DarthThienAn for suggesting a candidate without strong back-up, but that is essentially what we are asking for with a day 1 lynch suggestion. | ||
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On November 27 2010 13:23 annul wrote: harry potter stuff is all you ever need, this is SALEM mafia, we are all magical people here ok produce your wand, yo. We are all magical people? Or is it just you and your witch buddies that have magic? Burn him at the stake I say! P.S. My wand's bigger than yours. | ||
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On November 27 2010 13:40 flamewheel wrote: Okay this game is seriously getting too spammy. Opps, sorry, but if this is too spammy then the others must be nightmares. >.< Posts in the first 24 hours: Haunted Mafia: 545 Insane Mafia: 383 Salem Mafia: 86 | ||
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On November 27 2010 14:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I was sent this earlier by protactinium There isn't a traitor in this game for one. Is he trying to catch me off guard and make me say something like "oh no i'm not the traitor I'm the X"? Weird, but I assume this is the traitor role he is referring to: Chaos Ensuant You are a townie who is tired of the injustice towards the witches. You have no abilities but you want the witches to exterminate the town. You do not know who the witches are, and the witches do not know who you are. You do not affect the Mafia's KP. If the witches win the game, you win as well. You show up as Towny for all Rolechecks. You count towards the mafia # for outnumbering town. On November 27 2010 14:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I'm assuming we is him and Flamewheel. This PM caught me off guard a bit since I was never accused of making things up and I'd like to know what exactly he thinks I'm lying about. Err I thought all boot-camp analysis would occur post game, unless they said they were working together as a team? | ||
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Guess we will just have to prove our worth and scumhunt with the disadvantage. (Although I'm also in favor of a RNG green if it matters) | ||
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On November 27 2010 12:18 ghrur wrote: God, the fact that Dr. H has been claimed to already is so screwed up. >_< I'd suggest checking him, but if he's mafia, then obviously he's going to become Elder. But then again, it'd be SO dangerous to have mafia just control a blue role for their own protection to be killed at their leisure. I say DT should still check him (no risk of suicide bomber), but even if he comes out green/blue, be wary. Be SURE to analyze his posts. Suggests a DT should check DrH. Although this may be an attempt to discredit DrH, a day one dt request from mafia doesn't help his elder suspicions. On November 27 2010 12:18 ghrur wrote: *sidenote* as for lynching, I think we should pressure Pandain. He's usually a very active player, and he's inactive right now. I get black friday, but Pandain hasn't made a useful post since the game started. Also, it's been shown that he cracks under pressure as mafia. Beneficial results? I think so! ^_^On November 27 2010 13:04 ghrur wrote: Which is exactly why I think we should pressure Pandain atm. We need to get people posting, and fast. We should also coordinate our pressure because everyone "pressuring" 1 person doesn't really apply pressure. Also, I know Pandain can be an asset to town if he became active. I just want him to get there faster. On November 27 2010 13:26 ghrur wrote: Vote Pandain! That goes for you too jimbo and annul. Vote until he talks! + Show Spoiler + I want yum yums in this thread )=< Introduces Pandain as a lynch candidate when no other candidate was available. At a time where everyone is looking for a bandwagon to jump on, it would be a risky move to nominate a fellow mafia. On November 28 2010 07:00 annul wrote: drh PMed me before day post even came up... + Show Spoiler + From: DoctorHelvetica [ 9498 posts | Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Re: sup witch buddy Date: 11/26/10 12:13 and by everybody i mean like 5 people becuase im too lazy to pm everyone ghrur is dumb and thinks i am actually mafia who didn't get the pm with my teammates SIGH ----------------------------------------- Original Message From annul: what? if youre claiming witch then i think you just broke the game, cuz i did not get sent a witch role =\ ----------------------------------------- Original Message From DoctorHelvetica: lol so who else in our team? On November 30 2010 04:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Again, it is very important if ghrur pm'd you anything that you reveal it. Err so it looks like you have some pm's from ghrur too. Do you plan to reveal them like you are calling for? On November 28 2010 09:50 ghrur wrote: Well, Pandain's posted since I was last on, and now it seems it's between Kenpachi and Brownbear. Let's compare: Kenpachi has been open Kenpachi is really trying to improve Kenpachi has been more active in the thread Brownbear also seems to be less concentrated because he apparently didn't even read the OP. Overall, I think that, from a perspective outside the game, we should keep Kenpachi in so he can learn more because this is a bootcamp game. From a perspective inside the game, despite Kenpachi's lacking history, Brownbear honestly isn't a better town candidate. He's just as, if not more, clueless talking about voting for mayor and such. Furthermore, he hasn't even tried to clear his name. He hasn't even been shown to be on. EZ choice imo. His push for Pandain falls through so he attempts to analyze Kenpachi and Brownbear.His analysis is clearly biased towards one side. The "Kenpachi wants to learn more about playing mafia" defense seems like an incredibly weak reason to keep him around. On November 28 2010 10:14 ghrur wrote: Lol, annul, why so defensive yo? It's not even night yet, and you're already freaked out about pressure for the next DAY? Minor attack on annul, although weak enough that it doesn't sway me either way. On November 28 2010 10:23 ghrur wrote: YEAH! WHERE YOU AT MAFIA, WHERE YOU AT? Oh, there you are. ----------------------------------------------------------------- On November 30 2010 04:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote: That's why I want you to roleclaim to me Kenpachi. If you're a DT or a medic, something valuable like that, you need to tell me this. You said if you tell me your special role you'll die, but if I already know a medic, and 2 other blue roles, why haven't they died as well? I think the mafia choices for hits make it pretty clear they have not been active in fishing, finding blues, or been doing anything of significance in PM's. In fact the choices they made have made me inclined to believe Pandain is probably innocent as well. On November 30 2010 05:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote: The second mad hatter should claim to me. It's possible there are three mad hatters in this game, but it seems unlikely. If you don't want to claim to me and find me suspicious, then claim to SR who was the townie confirmed by a DT. I have a plan if this kenpachi business turns out the way I think it might turn out and your help would be very much needed. OK now this is making me uncomfortable. You are requesting two people role claim to you. Did I miss the point where you were confirmed as town? I understand you are trying to create a town circle, but is the creation of a circle worth half the blues blindly claiming to someone of unknown affiliation? I think it would be wise to not put all our eggs in one basket at such an early point in the game. | ||
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On November 30 2010 07:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Here is where it gets weird. AT THE START OF THE GAME HE FISHES FOR MY ROLE. Here's the answer a scum is hoping for. "No, I'm the DT actually" "No, I got medic. I'm confused on this game" stuff like that. So you're going to fish at me at PM's then refuse to respond to all of mine because "you don't trust me"? I'm strongly inclined to switch my vote over to you for this scummy behavior. I agree this fishing behavior is unacceptable, yet I'm surprised to find you, of all people, to be the one that is calling him out on it. Did you not admit to fishing half the new players at the start of the game? Why is that an acceptable behavior, yet this isn't? At least you have been contributing, but lets all just agree to keep our roles to ourselves and not inquire regarding another's role unless it is a DT confirmation or leads to a scum's identity. | ||
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On November 30 2010 12:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If kenpachi turns up red, we need to take a serious serious look at the inactive players in this game. I've sent out some PMs. I'd encourage the rest of the town to do this: -choose a random inactive and pressure them in PMs. And if kenpachi does not turn up red, we still need to look at the inactive players, as they did not want to risk an alternate lynch candidate. | ||
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On November 30 2010 13:29 Kenpachi wrote: oh and also, did you notice that you mimiced DocH? Well he said watch them if you turn up red, I said watch if you don't turn red. It made more sense if you aren't red, so maybe he made a typo. Have you given up or would you like to make a case for yourself? There still is a full day left to go. | ||
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On November 30 2010 18:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Honestly it's pretty important I coordinate with medics tonight. I can't announce who needs to be protected in public, as it'll be too transparent for the mafia to figure out who is who. I know I'm asking for a lot of roleclaims, but that is what is going to win us this game. I'm thinking that a mass roleclaim might not even be such a bad idea. Mafia are the only players in this game that need to lie and considering how many blues have confirmed to me already, it could be a huge trap. I'm not going to ask for that yet. But if you're the second medic and you feel cool claiming to me, do it. If not, don't. I just want to make sure I live along with another important townie. Sigh I must sound like a broken record. Have we all given up and assumed DrH knowing most of the roles is our only hope on day 2? Even if you turn out town, I think everyone should be more cautious. Why is he our go-to man, rather than Southrawrea, who has been "confrimed" by a detective? Is the rest of the town so passive that we have rely on him winning it for everyone and hope it doesn't backfire? You plant the seed for a mass roleclaim, which would essentially be an all-in move. On November 30 2010 18:50 youngminii wrote: Just so everyone knows in case DrH turns up as scum or something and tries to do something sneaky (which I doubt will happen anyway), I roleclaimed to him. Obviously I'm not going to say what my role is but chyeah there you go. -_- | ||
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On December 01 2010 09:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote: kitaman when did i say the dt checked kenpachi wut i may have said i want the dt to check kenpachi tonight. please quote me on it tho. i made many mistakes in some pms to kthez because i fuck up when im on my phone which im on right now. Well I don't really see how it could be a mistake, but here you go: Also you say his role claim obviously fake. What makes you change your mind? Its not like this information is new to you or anything. On November 30 2010 14:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote: it's also because your role claim to me is obviously fake | ||
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On December 01 2010 09:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote: also wow could that be any clearer a joke On November 30 2010 07:53 Glasse wrote: fishing for your role? are you serious right now? I thought it was pretty clear that pm was a joke when you sent back "i'm pink" sigh... On November 30 2010 07:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote: So it was made clear that your pm was a joke because I sent a joke response? Joke it may be, you got what you wanted. It was that conversation that was the basis for the Kenpachi "special" role discussion that got us to this point anyways. On December 01 2010 09:53 Protactinium wrote: ##unvote kenpachi ##vote DTA The guy has 2 posts in the whole thread yet is paying attention to vote to save himself 10 minutes before the lynch. I'm going to stick with him. | ||
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On December 01 2010 09:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I got what I wanted? Which was what. Confusing him into giving out information about his role. On December 01 2010 09:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:don't vote protactinium, it's glaringly obvious his pms were pro-town and DTA has been scummy as fuck. of course he's going to save himself, he told me ahead of time he was going to be busy. Well I don't have access to pm's so if he posted in the thread, maybe I could see it is glaringly obvious as well. On December 01 2010 09:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote: so he's scum because he didn't vote to kill himself? jesus christ. No it was based upon the fact that for someone who was inactive, he sure was able to show up at the right time. I changed due to the sheer amount of people pming me, which would be a poor mafia move. | ||
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