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On November 12 2010 13:22 LSB wrote: Doctor, protect yourself night 1 if possible. Same thing as what deconduo said, but chance to prevent a hit (or if we get a plan going, the tracker) thought you were talking to me when you said doctor >_> | ||
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On November 13 2010 10:13 LSB wrote: STORK WILL OVERCOME ALL!!!! tru | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
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If the mafia know the shrink is protecting player x, they will just never convert player x, meaning they will never fail in their conversion. The doctor and the shrink should feel comfortable acting on their own discretion. You need to understand what the best targets for mafia are. For death, strong blues (like LSB) will be the main target. For conversion, veterans/good players (myself, LSB) will be the strongest targets. Try to predict what the mafia are going to do, don't give them information. If we're going to do some sort of mass roleclaim thing, it needs to be set-up so that the mafia are forced to give the town bogus information. Mafia want to play the game giving as little information as possible in regards to everything, forcing them to come out of the woodwork is what will make them slip-up. Don't be scared to pressure. | ||
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wait and watch, mafia might try to make a bad case on that person and fall into the trap. it's ok to keep your thoughts to yourself. we don't need to know everything you're thinking and the mafia CERTAINLY don't. | ||
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On November 14 2010 09:46 KtheZ wrote: I would take what artanis says with a grain of salt; we cant confirm if hes telling the truth or lying. What do you think? | ||
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On November 14 2010 11:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't think this play would make much sense as mafia. Their best bet would be to hope for a medic save, since if they fakeclaim and the real person that got hit claims it's 50/50 for them to get lynched. The chance of a mafia taking that risk this early is unlikely, as proven by LSB's tracker claim without any counterclaim. They seem to be hesitant to do so as of yet. shush | ||
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On November 14 2010 11:36 KtheZ wrote: Yeah, I highly doubt mafia would hold back their kill this night, or that mafia just so happened to hit whoever was being protected. Artanis is probably telling the truth. aw D: i was hoping to trap a scum | ||
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We need to scumhunt instead of putting pressure on you. You never respond well to it anyway, it's pointless. | ||
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On November 15 2010 02:39 KtheZ wrote: I think it is probably safe to say artanis really is a vet; He seems to have a legit role pm. He said that he is neither calm nor clam, but nowhere in the rules said that the vet role would be both calm/clam. Unless another vet comes and refutes artanis's role pm claim (because it is safe to assume the other vet got the same pm), then we can say artanis really is town. he didn't say he was neither calm nor clam he said he was either calm or clam, he just doesn't know which one big difference. we can't just accept artanis as 100% town. vet is one of the best fakeclaims for a mafia, but something about his play doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me as mafia. he's at the bottom of my suspects list really wish he refused to answer that question about his role pm. would have been such a good trap if he said he was calm and then some mafia said "well im clam" | ||
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On November 15 2010 01:20 LSB wrote: Come to think about it Artanis[Xp] was probably hit because 1) He didn't have any relations to anyone. 2) He's probably regarded as a vet. i would think i'd be the day 1 target maybe mafia predicted i would be protected by a doctor or they're doing the same strategy I did in Micro Mafia Redemption where we intentionally avoided hitting vets so I wouldn't fall under suspicion for being the "last vet alive" | ||
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i believed artanis claim, i was hoping mafia would bandwagon the shit out of him trying to make his claim look fake, that's what i meant when i was talking to kthez anyway about pressure being a bad thing. coagulation is bad at this game. if he is town pressuring him will just make him look bad, if he is mafia pressuring him will make him look equally bad. the best bet with him if he's mafia is that he'll be really transparent and defend some mafia buddy in a super obvious way I was just going to say how pressuring inactive players with votes can be good as long as it doesn't become a deathwagon as far as me not scumhunting sure I am. i'm reading everyones post and thinking. i'm not gonna spam the thread with FoS's on everyone who says something mildly dumb or suspicious otherwise I'd be FoS'ing all the time lol. i decided my biggest mistake as town in insane mafia was posting too much and thinking too little. and i wasn't analysing artanis really. you said "i don't like how you're saying he isn't confirmed" but he fucking isn't lol. the other bulletproof shouldn't claim, this narrows mafia targets down way too much, the whole purpose of a bulletproof role is you goad the mafia into shooting you. sure if the other one claims the same thing it "confirms" artanis but then we just lose the whole point of the role, don't do it now as far as not saying "i think this person is 100% townie" here's why. if I say and convince everyone, say, Kenpachi is definiiiiitely town. Mafia just won't even bandwagon them. If I hold my tongue and wait to see if mafia pressure him with bullshit then I can come out and hopefully cut through their bullshit and catch a mafia. we all know who we think is town, it doesn't limit discussion, it's a pointless discussion in the first place imo you can feel free to disagree but I want to a play a game where the mafia makes mistakes, the more we tell them the less room for that there is. artanis claiming was a mistake, let's not do additional damage by having the other BP roleclaim even if its to do something like confirm artanis | ||
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On November 15 2010 03:45 KtheZ wrote: You know DrH, I was thinking the same thing. It would have been so much more convenient if a mafia claimed clam or something. But getting back on track: Artanis stated that in his role pm calm/clam were interchangeable, since he did not know which one he was. It is probably safe to assume the other vet also got the same PM. Since there is another vet, if they remain silent, it is most likely a confirmation that what artanis said is correct, and that he really is vet. If Artanis IS lying about his role, I would urge the other vet to tell us. However, while saying this, I also want to note that roleclaiming as the second vet may not be a good idea at this point. You would paint yourself as a prime target for MC. Anyway, if artanis is correct about his role PM, vet stay silent. If he is lying, sorry for the WIFOM, then real vet, you get to make a decision. good post. other BP claim if artanis is full of shit, otherwise stay quiet | ||
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On November 15 2010 03:51 Pandain wrote: Just putting this out here: Dr. H what was your plan? Also would like to hear feedback from other players(like KtheZ) plan in regards to what | ||
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On November 15 2010 03:57 Pandain wrote: as in "dang was hoping we caught a scum" and "Was hoping he would claim clam and than mafia claims calm" or something. was hoping kthez was a mafia who was gonna bandwagon artanis after the claim but he didn't. i felt like thats what was gonna happen. | ||
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On November 15 2010 04:00 Pandain wrote: LSB what about this. In addition, I think you should track Dr. H tonight, and doctor and shrink both protect you. "doctor and shrink both protect LSB so we can convert DrH and kill someone else" | ||
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