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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 16 2010 18:52 GMT
#10
Looks good to me, /in
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 29 2010 00:07 GMT
#126
Keep an eye out on everyone running for mayor, theres a good chance maf will throw in a candidate or two.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 29 2010 17:56 GMT
#340
I think I agree with coag; our mayer being able to communicate privately with a select group is a doubled edged sword, regardless of their alignment. Personally I feel its too risky to elect fishball.

What we want in a mayor is activity (but not spamming), good thinking and experience. As was said before, I think bumatlarge is the best candidate. Pandain might be a good choice too, but the yum yum stuff does get on my nerves so I'm biased against him
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 29 2010 18:46 GMT
#356
DTs can't check the mayor (usually). Not sure if thats the case for this game but in general the rule is no night action, regardless of what it does, affects the mayor while bodyguards are alive.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 29 2010 18:54 GMT
#361
On October 30 2010 03:06 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 02:56 deconduo wrote:
What we want in a mayor is activity (but not spamming), good thinking and experience. As was said before, I think bumatlarge is the best candidate. Pandain might be a good choice too, but the yum yum stuff does get on my nerves so I'm biased against him


If you are just flat out comparing resumes, my resume should top these two.


Don't trust the whole circle thing as I said. I'm voting for bumatlarge for now.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 29 2010 19:11 GMT
#385
On October 30 2010 03:57 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 03:54 deconduo wrote:
On October 30 2010 03:06 Fishball wrote:
On October 30 2010 02:56 deconduo wrote:
What we want in a mayor is activity (but not spamming), good thinking and experience. As was said before, I think bumatlarge is the best candidate. Pandain might be a good choice too, but the yum yum stuff does get on my nerves so I'm biased against him


If you are just flat out comparing resumes, my resume should top these two.


Don't trust the whole circle thing as I said. I'm voting for bumatlarge for now.


If I'm not mistaken, Bum retracted his run.
You would have to vote for Pandain or one of the others.


Oh true, I missed that. Gonna change to Pandain then.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 29 2010 19:22 GMT
#396
On October 30 2010 04:15 Nemesis wrote:
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On October 30 2010 04:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 30 2010 04:03 Pandain wrote:
If Fishball becomes mayor, then I would think mafia would try to infect him with murrayitis and kill him. The only way we could keep him alive if they do that is have doctors constantly heal him. I don't know how long we need him alive, but here's my thought right now:

Just protecting Fishball with medics is better than having him be mayor AND protect with medics(since they block night kills anyway.)

As for how to continue with his plan, I think one person from the circle should claim they are in circle, then once we know there is one just protect fishball. Then he can do whatever he says is "crucial".

thoughts?


Medics might not be able to cure Murrayitis, in fact, I'm pretty sure they won't be able to. They would only be able to keep their target from dying.

On October 29 2010 10:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Sorry guys, I botched up the definition of Murrayitis completely. This is the 100% correct definition.

Murrayitis Mechanics. The amount of people infected with Murrayitis is posted at the start of the day. Murrayitis is transferred if a carrier is visited, or visits someone during the night. Doctors can cure someone from Murrayitis. While Plague Doctors can cure and transfer immunity to someone with Murrayitis. If over half of the Game has Murrayitis, every carrier of Murrayitis dies.


It appears that Plague Doctors are the ones that would be able to cure Murrayitis.

So if he were Mayor, he would have protection and require a Plague Doctor for the cure.

If he's not Mayor, and we still feel he needs to stay alive, then it would require a Medic for protection and a Plague Doctor for the cure.

If he's Mayor, that is one more available blue per night.

If you read again doctors can cure Murrayitis, but plague doctor transfers immunity too.


By that definition, it seems they can only transfer immunity to someone who has Murrayitis at the time. Maybe I'm wrong here though.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 29 2010 19:39 GMT
#412
Current Votes:

Pandain(7): Pandain, Nemesis, deconduo, DoctorHelvetica, Meapak_Ziphh, Amber[LighT], Coagulation,

Fishball(4): Fishball, infinitestory, youngminii, orgolove

NB: NB

LunarDestiny: LunarDestiny

kingjames01: kingjames01

annul: annul

Veldril: Veldril

bumatlarge: bumatlarge

BrownBear: BrownBear

DCLXVI: DCLXVI
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 30 2010 12:03 GMT
#834
Wow I go to sleep and then theres 22 pages to read when I get up again >.>

brb reading
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 30 2010 14:19 GMT
#838
Ok, the election seems to have gotten out of hand a lot. Right now I don't like ANY of the 3 leading candidates:

Fishball - I've said a few times I just don't trust the whole circle thing.

Dr. H - Just seems, I dunno, off somehow. The timing of when he started to run was weird. He has a huge bandwagon overnight as well. It reeks imo.

Pandain - I put my vote on him initially, because between him and fishball I'd much prefer him. I feel he's the least likely to be scum of all 3, but I don't think he'd be an amazing mayor. In previous games I've played with him he was a bit all over the place. However, given the choice between those 3 I would pick him as the 'safe' option.

So I'm going to change back to my original vote for now, bumatlarge. The fact that he has not been pushing so hard like the others reassures me as well.

deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 31 2010 15:43 GMT
#1240
On November 01 2010 00:37 jcarlsoniv wrote:
It seems like this has gone largely unnoticed, and should definitely be addressed:

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 11:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 31 2010 11:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 31 2010 11:21 DCLXVI wrote:
On October 31 2010 10:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On October 31 2010 10:33 Misder wrote:
Is the bodygaurd's only extra function to prevent any mafia hits on the mayor?

It prevents the Mayor from being hit at night.

not quite true, the bodyguard can do more than that from what you have told me

Could you please point out to where I said this? Assume what I just said about them to be correct though.

Nevermind, you are correct. I misstated: The bodyguard prevents the Mayor from being hit, either during day or during night, and can't die except by Murrayitis or getting lynched.


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On October 31 2010 11:49 DCLXVI wrote:
And got artanis to confirm my role if someone can guess it


What do you think this is revealing? Is DC alluding that he is the bodyguard? Or does he have some sort of action that could target the Mayor during the day? We should figure this out soon in case we need to give him medic protection.

I believe Coag suspects DC to be the bodyguard, and so elegantly put it as such:

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On October 31 2010 19:08 Coagulation wrote:
2. you have a moron for a bodyguard


While I wouldn't use those choice of words, I have to agree somewhat. DC, if you are bodyguard, outing yourself was probably not the smartest thing to do. You don't want people to know you're the bodyguard.



I missed that, but I think you are right. DC has pretty much outed himself as bodyguard unless he is doing some sort of elaborate fakeout. We need at least one medic to be on him tonight.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 31 2010 19:23 GMT
#1283
On November 01 2010 04:21 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 04:16 Aeres wrote:
On November 01 2010 04:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i was just thinking "why the fuck would you do that oh my god"

but then I read the rest of your post and that you can survive a short while without medics. I'm not sure it was necessary to claim. If the Mafia thought the only bodyguard was dead, they might waste hits on me, even stack them.

Yeah, I might have been a bit hasty, but I can at least control the times I am vulnerable and the times I am not. I would think that the time stalled for by roleclaiming would be equal to the time stalled by Mafia hitting you in vain.

I don't know whether Artanis would give us such a blatant lie, i.e. about the number of bodyguards. If you are, as you claim, a bodyguard, then I think that makes DCXLVI highly suspicious.


Agreed. Even though this is insane mafia, if we can't believe what the mod says then we might as well give up now. This means that either Aeres is lying or DC isn't a bodyguard and instead is something else that can interact with the mayor.

Keep in mind that even if Aeres is lying it doesn't necessarily mean he is scum.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 31 2010 22:03 GMT
#1347
On November 01 2010 07:01 Lexpar wrote:
If I die tonight Doc H is almost definitely scum.


Whats to stop maf killing you now that you've said that.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 31 2010 22:56 GMT
#1384
On November 01 2010 07:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
L in this game? with Ace?

oh lawd


They have some sort of history?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 31 2010 23:04 GMT
#1398
On November 01 2010 08:03 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 07:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 01 2010 07:56 Glasse wrote:
If masq gets replaced by L we have a confirmed detective.

Wouldn't they have the same role?


[image loading]

?

Don't get it
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 31 2010 23:23 GMT
#1442
The whole bodyguard thing got me thinking.

What if there are several people who were told they were bodyguards in their role PM, however only one of them is the REAL bodyguard.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 01 2010 19:30 GMT
#1872
Most of this post is a random assortments of notes I've been taking. Its a bit all over the place, so I apologise for that. A lot of it is opinion/speculation. Grammar is terrible and tenses are FUBAR, sorry about that.

Ok, people are taking the Aeres thing way too far. I feel what he did was actually a smart move given the circumstances, and I was tempted to do something similar. Think about the situation:

-Mods say there is only 1 BG.
-Someone softclaims BG in what appears to be a moment of stupidity/newbishness.
-We have no idea what sort of roles/powers the mafia have.
-He had a power that makes him immune to night actions temporarily.
-Maf have 2+1 KP

At that point in the game, for all he knew, maf could kill DC and Dr.H that night if doesn't do something.

I think it WAS a good idea to claim BG. Sure, he didn't pull it off very well, but it worked to some extent if you think about it. Neither he, DC nor Dr. H died during the night.

Now, with hindsight it wasn't the greatest thing to do. But here's the thing, we know a lot more now than we did. If he hadn't fakeclaimed we could be in a situation with a dead bodyguard and mayor. Wouldn't that be fun.

When he claimed, I was pretty sure it was a fakeclaim to draw fire away from DC. I've seen similar situations several times in other games (Epicmafia)

LAL is bullshit. Townies have to lie some times for good reasons. Thats my opinion anyway.


Next, I'm gonna vote for youngmini.

-Inactive most of day 1
-Doesn't get lynched when he should have been
-Is suddenly very active
-Is pushing really hard for the Aeres lynch I feel
-Seems to be sucking up to/buddying Dr.H
-I get a weird vibe from him.


People I'm suspicious of:

Pandain/Dr.H - childish, pretty pointless arguing from both sides.
Lexpar - random, unexplained comments about Dr. H and his role.
Glasse - Obvious why. Probably some sort of VI role.


People I think are helping town (Not necessarily townie/trustworthy, just that they are helping):
Misder - Good points/analysis
Infinitestory - Good thinking
Coagulation - Some weird stuff, but overall is good I think.

Ace? (hard to read, not too sure on this. He's meant to be a veteran player)

deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 01 2010 19:53 GMT
#1877
On November 02 2010 04:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
This sudden swing to a youngminii bandwagon screams "mafia defense of Aeres" to me. So we're gonna bandwagon youngminii because he bandwagoned Aeres?

Let's think about this please.


I'm voting for youngminii, not because he bandwagoned Aeres, but because he is scummy. He is pushing too hard for what I think is a dumb lynch. Aeres hasn't been scummy, he took a risk with a play. I feel he did the right thing, and it makes perfect sense to do so why should he be punished for it.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 01 2010 22:01 GMT
#1901
On November 02 2010 06:25 Aeres wrote:
Doc, would you mind explaining why you voted for Infinitestory?


This. Whatever about anything else, we can't have our mayor making votes without giving any reasoning.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 02 2010 13:28 GMT
#2102
On November 02 2010 22:20 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 13:52 Veldril wrote:
On November 02 2010 05:19 Glasse wrote:
I think veldril might be scared of saying anything due to what happened in haunted mafia
I'd love to hear him on this though


I try to post something but having fever and playing Mafia make my head hurts even more T T

Regarding Dr.H and jcarlson, I think there are too many possibilities to simply conclude anything. I still 80% certain that Dr.H is a town player. However, he needs to prove his role quickly or he will lose the trust from me.

On Aeres, I really have no comments at this point (can't have good thinking right now T T). But I would not vote for him simply because of LAL. But I admit that young, and Dr.H made a good analysis on him.

I will put my vote on Divinek for the time being. He's a vet and I want him to say something too. I have yet to see his post about current situation. Also, last game he barely posted and turn out to be red in the end so I think we need to force him to be more active this game too.


If we let Aeres get away with blatantly lying then this cascades into a greater issue later in the game where everyone will feel that lying is the "best way" to bait the mafia; however what will end up happening is the players will bait each other and mafia will never bite. They will know that liars can get away with anything, so they can let the town doom itself. By lynching using LAL as a precedent we're halting future thought of fake claims. Fake claiming is a mafia tell, yet players insist on doing this as a bait tactic. It won't work in the long run.

And we can't just sit here and say "look everyone, don't lie like Aeres did." We won't know what Aeres was really lying about. Mafia will have extra leeway when it comes to a raise in suspicion as well. Picture it...

In 3 days we will go through someones post that has a contradiction and then the accused can just say "oh I was lying to bait someone, like Aeres did." What do we do? Keep our policy of "oh he must be telling the truth, sorry newbie mistake." Learn from your mistakes or don't make them.

Unless there's a better lynch suspect it seems that Aeres would be our best bet for obtaining information.


So you are saying we should lynch Aeres to set an example?
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