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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 09 2010 22:42 GMT
#3
/in
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 11 2010 09:59 GMT
#327
Its nice to wake up to 10+ pages of mafia to look through. This is gonna be a loooooong game. Just a few quick things:

-Silver Hammer might refer to the Beatle's song, Maxwell's Silver Hammer. Especially as it was John Lennon's 70th birthday the other day. I'm gonna have a look to see if anyone has Beatle's lyrics in their profile.

-Gonna add some stuff to my profile on request from mods. Picture and quote will stay the same.

-I'm going to vote for Coagulation for now. The old 'Why me = fry me' rule has rarely ever failed me.

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 11 2010 14:35 Coagulation wrote:
why the hell everyone voting to kill me already? theres hasnt been a single clue relevent to me mentioned at all. jeez.


On October 11 2010 14:56 Coagulation wrote:
omg i found incriminating evidence against myself

DoctorHelvetica was sitting at his desk deep within the Liquidvania jail. The jail used to be a dungeon when Dracula was in power and there were still bloodstains on the old stone walls. He heard footsteps coming down the hall, assuming it was the deputy warden coming to do his rounds he didn't even look back but just absorbed himself in his book on zombie history. The door creaked open and the footsteps stopped. DoctorHelvetica looked back at the open doorway but saw no one.

better post let the guys know


On October 11 2010 14:58 Coagulation wrote:
NO i think we should all stop analysing and just keep voting for coag for no reason


On October 11 2010 15:43 Coagulation wrote:
how the hell are you gonna vote for me when there hasnt been a single shred of presentable evidence to imply me as scum

yet your going to defend the most heavily implicated person here???

sounds like there are hidden motives to me.


-I'm gonna add more stuff later.


deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 11 2010 17:36 GMT
#370
At the moment, coag/veldril/masq all look like decent lynches imo. No matter what they flip, we should get some nice information
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 11 2010 17:38 GMT
#371
Also, I feel we should not be focusing so much on clues. They will help us a lot more later on when we can add them up, but for now they are just a distraction. Posting style is much more important. Looking at who is voting and not posting is pretty crucial as well.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 11 2010 19:28 GMT
#419
On October 12 2010 04:21 Veldril wrote:
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On October 12 2010 04:16 orgolove wrote:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0Ap0Ejzlf165MdENWM3p1cHNOcDlnT0o4bjNUUFdVMlE&hl=en&output=html

So far we have a few people who have had several tells. These may not be conclusive, but just putting it out there:

jodogohoo-"what is mafia" pretended to be noob, changed vote multiple times 1st day
Masq-apart from profile matching the clue, immediately agreed with Veldril when defended
aztrorisk-strongly accused shmotz, switched to masq when others started, defended glasse when his hammer profile pic was mentioned
Bill Murray-happy to kill coagulation/masq, posted PMs with aztorisk (!!!) - untrustworthy?


And we can see that most of the votes are against these few. Now, I don't understand the following votes:
ShmotZ - 1 - KtheZ - (L-30)
seRapH - 2 - NB, coagulation - (L-29)
coagulation - 3 - seRapH, deconduo, jcarlsoniv - (L-28)


These votes can't be explained by the newbie logic of "he voted for me, so I'm voting for him"
What's interesting to note is, seraph accused coagulation, then NB and coagulation voted Seraph back.

Also, I haven't seen jcarlsoniv or deconduo post in this thread, only in the voting thread. These might be from the same faction- I dunno...


Deconduo has posted once.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=159453&currentpage=17#327


Twice actually, and I will be picking up a bit if I can.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 11 2010 20:48 GMT
#452
Oh, and tonight I would recommend our ghosts be on the 'good' or veteran players. Considering how many new people we have in this game, the maf will probably attempt to take out the good players at the start, leaving an easy cleanup. Especially as the maf have 6KP combined tonight.

Off the top of my head, these are the people I've played with before, probably more than this though:
pandain, southrawrea, bumatlarge, ~OpZ~, Bill Murray, LSB, thegilaboy
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 11 2010 22:02 GMT
#487
On October 12 2010 06:52 Pandain wrote:
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On October 12 2010 06:49 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 12 2010 06:47 seRapH wrote:
On October 12 2010 06:45 Pandain wrote:
On October 12 2010 06:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 12 2010 06:40 jodogohoo wrote:
stop derailing the thread and cluttering stuff up


Haha, look at jodo, policing the clutter now =P

Town does need the blues to do something though. We need some information tonight, and we need to protect our most vulnerable/valuable. I am more than willing to help coordinate blues if they want me to.


No one do that. remember, dts and medics will be given bad advice if jcarlsoniv is mafia/vampires, and thus will be hindered That's why I in fact only asked vets to claim, and if they claimed to even more, its possible they won't even have a chance to be hit at all if we are both different scum teams.


the yum yum says no

i dont think jcarl is red, but i do agree with this post.


I don't disagree with Pandain, I'm just trying to help out. It is important to find a lynch target, but equally, if not more important to make sure our blues are being used well.

Sorry to step on your toes Pandain, you can handle that.


And whos to say you will help them use it well? Who's to say you're not mafia, leading the Medic to protect their own scum. Or even an innocent townie who gives bad advice. If you really want to help blues, tell them what they should be doing.

Like this:

Dts: check suscipcious people, active people, vets,
Medics: protect people who you think will get hit, especially pro town seeming ones, and me n.n
Vets: try to soak up hits, pretend as other blues.
Mad hatter: place carefully. If you really have a good read place it on them.

+ Show Spoiler +
yum yum goes to play sc2 yum yum



Just to elaborate somewhat on this:

Ghosts: Big names and pro town people are who you want to be protecting. Se my previous post for some suggestions.

Boogeyman: Same as above. You have a very good chance of either catching a maf, a medic or possibly even both!

Mad Scientist: Try and see if any clues stand out to you. Quite a few connections have been pointed out so far, so if any of the people implacated seem scummy to you, gogo investigate.

Zombie Detective: Depending on who we lynch today, I'd recommend investigating either coagulation, masq, veldrin, jodogohoo or aztrorisk. If you have a gut feeling of your own however, go for it.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 11 2010 22:09 GMT
#490
Oh also some other names for the roles:

Town Roles:
Ghost = Medic
Boogeyman = Watcher
Zombie Detective = Detective, DT, cop
Mad Scientist = Cluechecker, also a kind of detective
Frankenstein = Veteran, Bulletproof, BP
Grim Reaper = Vig, Vigilante
Zombie = Townie
Jack O' Lantern = Mad hatter, bomber

Gravedigger/Creeper = Miller

Maf Roles

Invisible man = Framer
Witch = Roleblocker
Poison Fang = Poisoner
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 11 2010 23:13 GMT
#542
No, you and the ghost would die too because of the brute.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 11 2010 23:32 GMT
#556
Jodogohoo for fool imo.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 14 2010 16:37 GMT
#1600
Don't forget that the vamps might have more than one brute.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 15 2010 13:55 GMT
#1678
On October 15 2010 22:05 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 21:38 CubEdIn wrote:
On October 15 2010 20:54 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Holy crap there are already a lot of votes on Veldril.

I haven't gotten to read all of Day 2, but has nothing new developed? It sort of just feels like we're bandwagoning Day 1's discussion. Do I think Veldril should go? Yeah, probably. Just surprised that no one new has really gained more suspicion.


It's not just that. There are some people who have gained a lot of suspicion, but none nearly as much as Veldril, AND if we're right, it will reduce Vamp KP by 1. So it's a pretty high-priority target.

...unless we're wrong, which is what I'm most scared of right now.


Yeah, we may be wrong, but let's look at the scenarios:

1. He's townie - not that big of a deal. We have a decent lead, we can afford one or two townie kills.
2. He's blue - this is worst case scenario, losing a blue would suck.
3. He's Vampire - Vampires lose a kill point, Mafia has a decent edge on Vamps, we would need to start focusing on finding Mafia.
4. He's Mafia - Mafia and Vamps are more even, Vamps still have 3 KP.

Even if each scenario has an equal percentage chance of income, we have a 75% chance of it not going badly for the town.

I see scenarios 3 and 4 to be about equally beneficial. 3 is more beneficial for Night 2, while 4 is more beneficial for the long run of the game.


1. Bad
2. Very Bad
3. Kinda Bad (Maf quite close to winning)
4. Good

75% chance of it going bad. I don't think the maths matter though, if veldril is scum, its 99% that he's a vamp rather than a maf. I don't think lynching him is a good idea.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 18:23:42
October 16 2010 18:22 GMT
#1900
Removed on request from Dr.H
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 17 2010 10:49 GMT
#2123
I also trust Pandain. Was talking to him in PMs, he had 2 MS and a DT claim to him, and as he was green I see no reason for him to be lying about such claims. Voting for heavan.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 17 2010 13:59 GMT
#2126
That seems pretty solid, fair enough. Changing to Artanis.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 18 2010 17:04 GMT
#2181
On October 18 2010 12:30 kitaman27 wrote:
Quality analysis. Looking back, here is one thing that should be added to the list.

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On October 18 2010 11:49 Nemesis wrote:

In a nearby cafe Korynne was enjoying a late coffee. She had just got off a very long shift at the Alfred Hitchcock Memorial Hospital and needed the energy just to make the drive home. There was only one other person in the cafe and she couldn't help but get a weird feeling from him. As she left the cafe and got into her car she could sense he was following her. She drove for a long distance and when she stopped in her driveway she could swear she heard a noise in the backseat. She looked behind her and saw nothing. Her mind was playing tricks on her.

She turned her head back to find something much worse. The man from the cafe was sitting in the passenger seat of her car and had a gun pressed to her temple. The gunshot was silenced, her body wouldn't be found until the morning.

This one, I tried finding a connection to coffee and hospital but couldn't find anything in anyone's profile.


That clue seemed to be the least obvious to me, but coffee and "Aflred Hitchcock Memorial Hospital" were the two things that stood out. I couldn't find anything to do with coffee either, but I discovered something that may have to do with the second part.

In deconduo's profile there is a poem:

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S`io credesse che mia risposta fosse A persona che mai tornasse al mondo, Questa fiamma staria senza piu scosse. Ma perciocchè giammai di questo fondo Non tornò vivo alcun, s'i'odo il vero, Senza tema d'infamia ti rispondo.


I typed it into google and the first link that came up was:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Love_Song_of_J._Alfred_Prufrock

Alfred Hitchcock.....Alfred Prufrock? I think it is unlikely that it is a mere coincidence.


The quote is from Dante's Inferno, but T.S. Eliot did use it in the introduction to The Love Song of J Alfred Prufrock. However linking that to Alfred Hitchcock really is clutching at straws. If you look at the other clues that have been confirmed they've been very straightforward.

The wind clue against me is much more likely.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 20 2010 20:40 GMT
#2315
On October 21 2010 02:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:
From voting thread:

Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 19:50 deconduo wrote:
##Vote HeavOnEarth


First vote of the day. Care to share why deconduo? I'm pretty sick of lurkers.


Same reasons I voted for him the first time, except theres even more stuff pointing to him this time as was said above. I'm doing most of my talking in PMs because I can choose what people to say things to and no plans/ideas/information goes to the wrong person. Its also much much easier to keep track of what people are saying considering how much of a clusterfuck this game is. If theres something you want to talk about feel free to send me one.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 23 2010 14:01 GMT
#2534
Still voting for HeavOnEarth, persistence will pay off!
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 26 2010 17:17 GMT
#2648
Voting spydr as well. At least we finally got HeavOnEarth lynched.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 28 2010 20:54 GMT
#2730
Heya, Mad Scientist here. Got a guilty on tonight's cluecheck but I'm not allowed reveal it until the day post. Any chance of a ghost being on me to protect me in case I get hit, because if I die I can't say who it is. Thanks
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