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On October 04 2010 12:49 Amber[LighT] wrote: We should work on figuring out how we want to go about voting on Day 1. We can: -Randomly Pick -Pick an Inactive -Pick an Active I think of these three we should just go for a random pick. How are we going to randomly pick a person? Even if we find a good way to do it, what stops mafia from pretending to choose randomly and just lynching whoever they want? On October 04 2010 12:49 Amber[LighT] wrote: It seems that every time we choose an inactive the game just gets caught in a battle between 2 town groups, which never have mafia in them anyway! This is my first game so I'll take my lead from the more experienced players, but is this always the case? I guess that if we start by assuming that the mafia try to stay hidden and not arouse suspicions, then they will post just to show they are active. I think we should wait until people start to post and then formulate a plan as the information starts to come in. | ||
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On October 04 2010 22:59 NukeTheBunnys wrote: I'm in favor of just voting random the first day. We have very little reason to go on to try and pick some one suspicious, and if anyone is suspicious before day 1 night, then they are most likely attempting to be suspicious(read the Village Idiot). The same holds true to voting an inactive. We would most likely end up killing a townie by voting random, but I don't think we really have a better option. Once people start posting more we can have a more educated, organized, strategy, but for now I believe in chaos First off, do we have to reach a true majority to lynch a suspect or is it the person with the most number of votes by nightfall gets lynched? If it's true majority, then using a random pick is a waste of a vote. With 25 players it will be impossible to get 13 votes randomly on one person. How is that supposed to "pressure" anyone? Again, I'm going to point out that even if everyone agrees to honestly reporting what result they got, the mafia could just pretend and say whatever they want. Openly supporting using a random pick invites a mis-lynch. I am not going to waste my vote. I support having people post and looking for inconsistencies. | ||
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On October 05 2010 12:03 Crisis_ wrote: I'm in favor of voting inactives. It forces people to talk, leading to more communication. As mentioned before, communication is a step forward in helping us to determine scum. As for the DTs, I agree with most of this. A DT that plays the role of a proactive townie will be diffused amongst the crowd, instead of being a sitting duck to the mafia's quiet-sniping tendencies. I completely agree with you about encouraging more communication to flush out the mafia, but I disagree with looking in the inactive list. Since mafia don't want to stand out, they will not be among those who just post and vote right before the deadline. Also, your assessment about the DT makes me think like you're mafia, pretending to sound like a townie. Pointing out the obvious without really saying anything. Are you really trying to give advice or are you trying to flush him out? My advice to the DT is to stay hidden. Your skills will be best used if no one knows who you are for sure. On October 05 2010 14:05 Crisis_ wrote: How nice of you to vote for me. Glad to know that your vote will be a waste, since: 1. I am participating in active discussion to try to help town and give advice to the DT, I wouldn't be doing this if I were scum. 2. There are better candidates to be lynched, i.e. inactives. Here, you sound like you could be town, but you're acting as though your actions don't make you suspicious when in fact they do. "I wouldn't be doing this if I were scum." is exactly what scum would say. On the first day, townies should be worried about being accused of being scum, and you're claiming the opposite. I don't understand. Maybe you should restate your opinions and give me better reasons to trust your motives. On October 06 2010 00:29 Crisis_ wrote: Well, these inactives are the candidates that I'm in favor of voting of. And yea, I'm new, so I'm probably shit at this game rofl. I wouldn't be surprised if I screwed up the whole game. I've attempted to give advice to the DT, but now I'm not so sure if it was a great idea or not. Finally, here you're playing off your earlier posts as though you don't know any better. Is it possible that once you received feedback, you realized that you were actually overcompensating? I don't have any real chance of choosing mafia with a random number generator. Instead I've been reading through the first day's posts and, to be honest, your words just don't ring true. | ||
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On October 06 2010 05:42 drag_ wrote: It's a hard choice for me, because there's so many layers meaning (if unclear read the Old Man and the Sea) behind every post. However, you, Mr. Kingjames seem to be trying a little too hard in my eyes to already single out a target and to shift blame elsewhere. I'm a little more skeptical of people who post a lot of accusative posts as opposed to just general conversation. No, that's totally valid. However, I'm trying to play the game as best as I can with the little bit of information that has been revealed. Until I have more information, I think I will go with what I've got. Even if I'm wrong with what I'm saying, it invites a response so that we can learn more about what players are thinking, just like how it incited you to respond. What I DO find interesting, however, is that you have only posted once previous to this message. Then, with this post you claim that you apparently don't like it when people try a "little too hard ... to already single out a target and to shift blame elsewhere [and are] skeptical of people who post a lot of accusative posts as opposed to just general conversation." You came out of hiding just to point fingers and divert attention. Are you taking this game seriously enough to find a good reason to survive and win? If you are, then seriously consider what I have to say. If you can find a glaring logical error then say so. Don't insinuate with your slimy words just before the first vote and then disappear. | ||
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On October 06 2010 06:25 kane]deth[ wrote: Due to school, I can really only post around this time. Just making a post to indicate my activeness, will edit or post again later with thoughts after reading the thread. Just saw this and wanted to make sure you DON'T EDIT your post. Just make a new post. Welcome to the game! =) | ||
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Don't sweat it too much! I made sure to quote you earlier just in case you edited. Anyway, if anyone is concerned, they can see what you wrote before it was edited using my post, so I think you'll be alright. | ||
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On October 06 2010 06:26 drag_ wrote: This just furthers my point about you. You act as if my post was all part of your multiple phase plan, before completely changing the subject to you accusing me of lying in wait and singling you out with my 'slimy words'. Once again another clear shift of blame from yourself towards me and another accusative post. Honestly, what we're doing here casts suspicion on both of us. You're accusing me of accusing you of accusing me of... =) I already explained my actions/intentions/decision above and I have a presentation to give to the community early in the morning so I can't really stick around. I'll leave you with one question though. With my actions, I've generated discussion and content. This increases the chance to flush out any mafia. What have you done? | ||
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First off, I want to remind everyone to RELAX! It is totally in our best interest to be calm, methodical and analytical. It's clear to me that the first day has really rattled people and the more we add to it, the more chances mafia has to manipulate us. Especially if they can get people to bandwagon a non-red and then hide in the confusion. At this moment, since I only know what I am, I suspect everyone. I think this is my best strategy to survive long enough to make good decisions. Anyway, I'd like to sum up the voting from the first day and what information I can glean out of it. Please add to, refute, expand or whatever to this discussion: - The first day we lynched the Village Idiot, Protactinium. What can we learn? - There were 5 mafia and 20 non-mafia to begin the game - Protactinium was the Village Idiot and thus non-mafia - Mafia knew that he was non-mafia but not which role and thus a candidate to vote for the lynch - 6 votes went to Protactinium so at most 5 votes came from the mafia Now, I'd like to suggest that we look really closely at Crisis_, CynanMachae, ghrur and infinitestory. I will show why in the following discussion. To further my case I present the order of voting: + Show Spoiler + Bill Murray October 05 2010 12:12. ##vote: protactinium Cumulative Votes: (24:48 remaining) Protactinium 1 ~OpZ~ October 05 2010 12:51. ##Vote Crisis_ Cumulative Votes: (24:09 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 1 Amber[LighT] October 05 2010 22:29. ##vote: Bill Murray Cumulative Votes: (14:31 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 1 Bill Murray - 1 BrownBear October 06 2010 01:33. Vote count has been updated. 11.5 hours remaining in this day cycle. Divinek October 06 2010 01:59. ##vote cynanmachine Cumulative Votes: (11:01 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 1 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 1 NukeTheBunnys October 06 2010 02:08. ##vote cynanmachine Cumulative Votes: (10:52 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 1 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 SouthRawrea October 06 2010 05:07. ##vote Divinek Cumulative Votes: (7:53 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 1 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 Pandain October 06 2010 05:31. ##Vote Xelin Cumulative Votes: (7:29 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 1 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 XeliN - 1 kingjames01 October 06 2010 05:34. ##Vote Crisis_ Cumulative Votes: (7:26 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 2 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 XeliN - 1 meeple October 06 2010 05:42. ##Vote Cynanmachae Cumulative Votes: (7:18 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 2 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 XeliN - 1 drag_ October 06 2010 05:57. ##Vote: kingjames01 Cumulative Votes: (7:03 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 2 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 XeliN - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Pandain October 06 2010 05:57. ##Unvote (XeliN) ##Vote Infunidibulum Cumulative Votes: (7:03 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 2 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 DoctorHelvetica October 06 2010 06:00. ##Vote JeeJee Cumulative Votes: (7:00 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 2 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 JeeJee - 1 DoctorHelvetica October 06 2010 09:08. I'm changing my vote: (##Unvote JeeJee) ##Vote Crisis_ Cumulative Votes: (3:52 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 Misder October 06 2010 09:20. ##Vote ~Opz~ Cumulative Votes: (3:40 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Bill Murray October 06 2010 09:35. ##confirm vote: protactinium (No change) Cumulative Votes: (3:25 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 CynanMachae October 06 2010 10:18. ##Vote Padain Cumulative Votes: (2:42 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 ghrur October 06 2010 10:36. ##vote protactinium Cumulative Votes: (2:24 remaining) Protactinium - 2 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 infinitestory October 06 2010 10:49. ##vote proactinium Cumulative Votes: (2:11 remaining) Protactinium - 3 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 Protactinium October 06 2010 10:59. ##Vote: XeliN Cumulative Votes: (2:01 remaining) Protactinium - 3 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 XeliN - 1 BrownBear October 06 2010 11:04. Vote Count Updated. 2 hours to go. Lot of you haven't voted yet. cSc October 06 2010 11:07. ##vote bumatlarge Cumulative Votes: (1:53 remaining) Protactinium - 3 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 XeliN - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SiNiquity October 06 2010 11:14. ##vote protactinium Cumulative Votes: (1:46 remaining) Protactinium - 4 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 XeliN - 1 bumatlarge - 1 Pandain October 06 2010 11:25. ##Unvote (XeliN) (##)Vote Sinquity Cumulative Votes: (1:35 remaining) Protactinium - 4 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 BrownBear October 06 2010 11:25. VOTE UPDATED. YOU HAVE ONE HOUR NukeTheBunnys October 06 2010 12:07. changing vote (##Unvote CynanMachae) ##vote Protactinium Cumulative Votes: (0:53 remaining) Protactinium - 5 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 Infundibulum October 06 2010 12:11. ##vote ghrur Cumulative Votes: (0:49 remaining) Protactinium - 5 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 ghrur - 1 Crisis_ October 06 2010 12:16. ##Vote Protactinium Cumulative Votes: (0:44 remaining) Protactinium - 6 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 ghrur - 1 Protactinium October 06 2010 12:29. ##Vote: Crisis_ Cumulative Votes: (0:31 remaining) Protactinium - 6 Crisis_ - 4 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 ghrur - 1 infinitestory October 06 2010 12:34. ##Unvote (Protactinium) ##Vote: JeeJee Cumulative Votes: (0:26 remaining) Protactinium - 5 Crisis_ - 4 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 ghrur - 1 JeeJee - 1 BrownBear October 06 2010 12:40. Votes updated for the last time before the end of the day. If you haven't voted yet, you need to do so IMMEDIATELY or risk modkill. bumatlarge October 06 2010 12:57. ##vote protactinium Cumulative Votes: (0:03 remaining) Protactinium - 6 Crisis_ - 4 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 ghrur - 1 JeeJee - 1 BrownBear October 06 2010 13:00. DAY HAS ENDED. Protactinium is to be lynched. Night post coming soon. What I have noticed while summarizing this information: - Protactinium only had 1 vote until less than 3 hours remaining - Bill Murray voted first for Protactinium with almost 25 hours remaining - When the votes started coming in for Protactinium, two players were at-risk of being lynched: Crisis_ and CynanMachae with 3 votes each - CynanMachae had received his 3rd vote first thus placing him on the chopping block according to the rule clarified by Artanis[Xp] mid-game After this point, the order of voting was: - CynanMachae ##Vote Padain (2:42 remaining) Comment: You were in the lead and headed to the gallows. With only 2:42 left before nightfall, why did you not vote for Crisis_ so that you were not in the lead??? Is it possible that you DON'T want Crisis_ to be lynched? - ghrur ##vote protactinium (2:24 remaining) - infinitestory ##vote proactinium (2:11 remaining) Comment: Twenty minutes apart, two votes come in to make 3 players tied in votes. Interesting. Coincidence or not? I will continue and see if a pattern emerges. Protactinium ##Vote: XeliN (2:01 remaining) Comment: Protactinium has to opportunity to push either Crisis_ or CynanMachae further to the front of the line but declines. We understand this action afterwards when it is revealed that Protactinium is indeed the Village Idiot. (Well played, you cunning bastard.) cSc ##vote bumatlarge (1:53 remaining) Comment: Voted for a Green (which we only find out the next day) SiNiquity ##vote protactinium (1:46 remaining) Comment: New leader in the votes Pandain ##Unvote (XeliN) (##)Vote Sinquity (1:35 remaining) NukeTheBunnys changing vote (##Unvote CynanMachae) ##vote Protactinium (0:53 remaining) Comment: NukeTheBunnys removes CynanMachae out of the running to be lynched and moves Protactinium ahead of Crisis_. Now, even if Crisis_ receives an extra vote, Protactinium will still be lynched since he reached 4 votes first. This seems to be in line with CynanMachae's earlier play. Infundibulum ##vote ghrur (0:49 remaining) Comment: Infundibulum turns out to be a Green and so there is no malice in this vote. Crisis_ ##Vote Protactinium (0:44 remaining) Comment: This vote could be made to save himself even though he is behind at this point. Again, this seems to be along the same thought process as CynanMachae's earlier vote. Protactinium ##Vote: Crisis_ (0:31 remaining) Comment: It seems as though Protactinium got away with voting twice. infinitestory ##Unvote (Protactinium) ##Vote: JeeJee (0:26 remaining) Comment: If I were to analyze this vote in terms of what has been written above, then it seems now that Protactinium is ahead in the voting and neither CynanMachae nor Crisis_ are at risk, infinitestory retracts his earlier vote and votes for someone who can not be lynched with only 1 vote. Why waste your vote with less than half an hour left? Is this coincidence or is this a purposeful move to cover your earlier vote? bumatlarge ##vote protactinium (0:03 remaining) Comment: bumatlarge turns out to be a Green and so there is no malice in this vote. I haven't had time to fully go through the thread to find more connections between the suspicious voters yet so I'm asking for help. If anyone finds clues linking these players, post them. We don't have much time left in this day. If we can double-lynch 2 Reds before the night they will only have 1 kill. Good luck to us all. =) Finally, I urge again for everyone to not vote in the heat of the moment but to apply reasoning so that your vote is not wasted. | ||
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Also, actually, how do Double Lynches work? If the majority votes for a double lynch today MUST the top two vote-getters die tomorrow? What if we realize that we don't have enough information to lynch two players? Will we have NO CHOICE except to lynch two players or can we choose to VETO and give up our right to make the Double Lynch? So far there are 6 votes for a double lynch. For these players, I want you to think to yourselves the following questions. Do each of you have enough evidence to condemn two Reds? Are you so SURE that they are mafia to risk sending them to their deaths? Do you think that you will get enough information to make that decision before tomorrow's vote? While I will support the idea of Double Lynches I won't vote for them until I'm sure that they will both be used in our best interest or that we can actually stop ourselves if we are unsure. Can we get an official ruling about this? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On October 02 2010 01:59 kingjames01 wrote: Nice, I think Sunday night will be okay for me. I'm going to be doing a lot of travelling these upcoming two weeks... I'll be flying out to Germany tomorrow, then to Denmark on Monday, back to Germany on Thursday and finally back to Canada on the 13th. Looking through a bunch of previous games it seems like there's a lot of work involved but I'll be as active as possible around my work. Hopefully, I won't get put on the ban list! =) On October 02 2010 06:28 Divinek wrote: oh dear i hope that's not an inactivity excuse waiting to happen On October 02 2010 06:43 kingjames01 wrote: What do you think I should do? I'm not going to use it as an excuse and I will accept any punishment I earn. I really will try my best but if you think I'm going to hamper the game, then please let me know and I will sit this one out. I've never played before and it seemed like something I would really enjoy but at the same time I understand team games and the importance of contributions from every single player so at this point I will follow any advice anyone cares to give. On October 02 2010 07:05 Divinek wrote: it's all if you think you can be active enough lol. Really you would probably only need to dedicate maybe an hour a day, during day cycles, to the game to be perfectly active enough. On October 02 2010 07:43 BrownBear wrote: If you can show up every cycle, read the posts, make an informed decision, and vote, it shouldn't be a problem. If you can't do that, you might want to consider waiting until the next game. On October 02 2010 08:18 kingjames01 wrote: Well, I definitely can make time for at least an hour each day since I'm really enthusiastic about trying out this game. =) The day cycles are going to be 48 hours in length so that will give me plenty of opportunity to stay current with the progress of the game. Now, these are two posts that I made in-game. Note that for emphasis, I bolded some of the text. + Show Spoiler + On October 06 2010 07:43 kingjames01 wrote: Honestly, what we're doing here casts suspicion on both of us. You're accusing me of accusing you of accusing me of... =) I already explained my actions/intentions/decision above and I have a presentation to give to the community early in the morning so I can't really stick around. I'll leave you with one question though. With my actions, I've generated discussion and content. This increases the chance to flush out any mafia. What have you done? On October 08 2010 18:51 kingjames01 wrote: Okay, I've been in the air travelling for the past day and I just caught up on the thread. Holy crap there's a lot going on. First off, I want to remind everyone to RELAX! It is totally in our best interest to be calm, methodical and analytical. It's clear to me that the first day has really rattled people and the more we add to it, the more chances mafia has to manipulate us. Especially if they can get people to bandwagon a non-red and then hide in the confusion. At this moment, since I only know what I am, I suspect everyone. I think this is my best strategy to survive long enough to make good decisions. Anyway, I'd like to sum up the voting from the first day and what information I can glean out of it. Please add to, refute, expand or whatever to this discussion: - The first day we lynched the Village Idiot, Protactinium. What can we learn? - There were 5 mafia and 20 non-mafia to begin the game - Protactinium was the Village Idiot and thus non-mafia - Mafia knew that he was non-mafia but not which role and thus a candidate to vote for the lynch - 6 votes went to Protactinium so at most 5 votes came from the mafia Now, I'd like to suggest that we look really closely at Crisis_, CynanMachae, ghrur and infinitestory. I will show why in the following discussion. To further my case I present the order of voting: + Show Spoiler + Bill Murray October 05 2010 12:12. ##vote: protactinium Cumulative Votes: (24:48 remaining) Protactinium 1 ~OpZ~ October 05 2010 12:51. ##Vote Crisis_ Cumulative Votes: (24:09 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 1 Amber[LighT] October 05 2010 22:29. ##vote: Bill Murray Cumulative Votes: (14:31 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 1 Bill Murray - 1 BrownBear October 06 2010 01:33. Vote count has been updated. 11.5 hours remaining in this day cycle. Divinek October 06 2010 01:59. ##vote cynanmachine Cumulative Votes: (11:01 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 1 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 1 NukeTheBunnys October 06 2010 02:08. ##vote cynanmachine Cumulative Votes: (10:52 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 1 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 SouthRawrea October 06 2010 05:07. ##vote Divinek Cumulative Votes: (7:53 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 1 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 Pandain October 06 2010 05:31. ##Vote Xelin Cumulative Votes: (7:29 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 1 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 XeliN - 1 kingjames01 October 06 2010 05:34. ##Vote Crisis_ Cumulative Votes: (7:26 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 2 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 XeliN - 1 meeple October 06 2010 05:42. ##Vote Cynanmachae Cumulative Votes: (7:18 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 2 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 XeliN - 1 drag_ October 06 2010 05:57. ##Vote: kingjames01 Cumulative Votes: (7:03 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 2 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 XeliN - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Pandain October 06 2010 05:57. ##Unvote (XeliN) ##Vote Infunidibulum Cumulative Votes: (7:03 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 2 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 DoctorHelvetica October 06 2010 06:00. ##Vote JeeJee Cumulative Votes: (7:00 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 2 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 JeeJee - 1 DoctorHelvetica October 06 2010 09:08. I'm changing my vote: (##Unvote JeeJee) ##Vote Crisis_ Cumulative Votes: (3:52 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 Misder October 06 2010 09:20. ##Vote ~Opz~ Cumulative Votes: (3:40 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Bill Murray October 06 2010 09:35. ##confirm vote: protactinium (No change) Cumulative Votes: (3:25 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 CynanMachae October 06 2010 10:18. ##Vote Padain Cumulative Votes: (2:42 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 ghrur October 06 2010 10:36. ##vote protactinium Cumulative Votes: (2:24 remaining) Protactinium - 2 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 infinitestory October 06 2010 10:49. ##vote proactinium Cumulative Votes: (2:11 remaining) Protactinium - 3 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 Protactinium October 06 2010 10:59. ##Vote: XeliN Cumulative Votes: (2:01 remaining) Protactinium - 3 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 XeliN - 1 BrownBear October 06 2010 11:04. Vote Count Updated. 2 hours to go. Lot of you haven't voted yet. cSc October 06 2010 11:07. ##vote bumatlarge Cumulative Votes: (1:53 remaining) Protactinium - 3 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 XeliN - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SiNiquity October 06 2010 11:14. ##vote protactinium Cumulative Votes: (1:46 remaining) Protactinium - 4 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 XeliN - 1 bumatlarge - 1 Pandain October 06 2010 11:25. ##Unvote (XeliN) (##)Vote Sinquity Cumulative Votes: (1:35 remaining) Protactinium - 4 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 BrownBear October 06 2010 11:25. VOTE UPDATED. YOU HAVE ONE HOUR NukeTheBunnys October 06 2010 12:07. changing vote (##Unvote CynanMachae) ##vote Protactinium Cumulative Votes: (0:53 remaining) Protactinium - 5 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 Infundibulum October 06 2010 12:11. ##vote ghrur Cumulative Votes: (0:49 remaining) Protactinium - 5 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 ghrur - 1 Crisis_ October 06 2010 12:16. ##Vote Protactinium Cumulative Votes: (0:44 remaining) Protactinium - 6 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 ghrur - 1 Protactinium October 06 2010 12:29. ##Vote: Crisis_ Cumulative Votes: (0:31 remaining) Protactinium - 6 Crisis_ - 4 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 ghrur - 1 infinitestory October 06 2010 12:34. ##Unvote (Protactinium) ##Vote: JeeJee Cumulative Votes: (0:26 remaining) Protactinium - 5 Crisis_ - 4 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 ghrur - 1 JeeJee - 1 BrownBear October 06 2010 12:40. Votes updated for the last time before the end of the day. If you haven't voted yet, you need to do so IMMEDIATELY or risk modkill. bumatlarge October 06 2010 12:57. ##vote protactinium Cumulative Votes: (0:03 remaining) Protactinium - 6 Crisis_ - 4 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 ghrur - 1 JeeJee - 1 BrownBear October 06 2010 13:00. DAY HAS ENDED. Protactinium is to be lynched. Night post coming soon. What I have noticed while summarizing this information: - Protactinium only had 1 vote until less than 3 hours remaining - Bill Murray voted first for Protactinium with almost 25 hours remaining - When the votes started coming in for Protactinium, two players were at-risk of being lynched: Crisis_ and CynanMachae with 3 votes each - CynanMachae had received his 3rd vote first thus placing him on the chopping block according to the rule clarified by Artanis[Xp] mid-game After this point, the order of voting was: - CynanMachae ##Vote Padain (2:42 remaining) Comment: You were in the lead and headed to the gallows. With only 2:42 left before nightfall, why did you not vote for Crisis_ so that you were not in the lead??? Is it possible that you DON'T want Crisis_ to be lynched? - ghrur ##vote protactinium (2:24 remaining) - infinitestory ##vote proactinium (2:11 remaining) Comment: Twenty minutes apart, two votes come in to make 3 players tied in votes. Interesting. Coincidence or not? I will continue and see if a pattern emerges. Protactinium ##Vote: XeliN (2:01 remaining) Comment: Protactinium has to opportunity to push either Crisis_ or CynanMachae further to the front of the line but declines. We understand this action afterwards when it is revealed that Protactinium is indeed the Village Idiot. (Well played, you cunning bastard.) cSc ##vote bumatlarge (1:53 remaining) Comment: Voted for a Green (which we only find out the next day) SiNiquity ##vote protactinium (1:46 remaining) Comment: New leader in the votes Pandain ##Unvote (XeliN) (##)Vote Sinquity (1:35 remaining) NukeTheBunnys changing vote (##Unvote CynanMachae) ##vote Protactinium (0:53 remaining) Comment: NukeTheBunnys removes CynanMachae out of the running to be lynched and moves Protactinium ahead of Crisis_. Now, even if Crisis_ receives an extra vote, Protactinium will still be lynched since he reached 4 votes first. This seems to be in line with CynanMachae's earlier play. Infundibulum ##vote ghrur (0:49 remaining) Comment: Infundibulum turns out to be a Green and so there is no malice in this vote. Crisis_ ##Vote Protactinium (0:44 remaining) Comment: This vote could be made to save himself even though he is behind at this point. Again, this seems to be along the same thought process as CynanMachae's earlier vote. Protactinium ##Vote: Crisis_ (0:31 remaining) Comment: It seems as though Protactinium got away with voting twice. infinitestory ##Unvote (Protactinium) ##Vote: JeeJee (0:26 remaining) Comment: If I were to analyze this vote in terms of what has been written above, then it seems now that Protactinium is ahead in the voting and neither CynanMachae nor Crisis_ are at risk, infinitestory retracts his earlier vote and votes for someone who can not be lynched with only 1 vote. Why waste your vote with less than half an hour left? Is this coincidence or is this a purposeful move to cover your earlier vote? bumatlarge ##vote protactinium (0:03 remaining) Comment: bumatlarge turns out to be a Green and so there is no malice in this vote. I haven't had time to fully go through the thread to find more connections between the suspicious voters yet so I'm asking for help. If anyone finds clues linking these players, post them. We don't have much time left in this day. If we can double-lynch 2 Reds before the night they will only have 1 kill. Good luck to us all. =) Finally, I urge again for everyone to not vote in the heat of the moment but to apply reasoning so that your vote is not wasted. Now take another look at my periods of inactivity and let these posts speak for themselves. | ||
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kingjames01
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On October 08 2010 18:51 kingjames01 wrote: + Show Spoiler + CynanMachae October 06 2010 10:18. ##Vote Padain Cumulative Votes: (2:42 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 What I have noticed while summarizing this information: - Protactinium only had 1 vote until less than 3 hours remaining - Bill Murray voted first for Protactinium with almost 25 hours remaining - When the votes started coming in for Protactinium, two players were at-risk of being lynched: Crisis_ and CynanMachae with 3 votes each - CynanMachae had received his 3rd vote first thus placing him on the chopping block according to the rule clarified by Artanis[Xp] mid-game After this point, the order of voting was: - CynanMachae ##Vote Padain (2:42 remaining) Comment: You were in the lead and headed to the gallows. With only 2:42 left before nightfall, why did you not vote for Crisis_ so that you were not in the lead??? Is it possible that you DON'T want Crisis_ to be lynched? HE WAS GOING TO GET LYNCHED AND DID NOT VOTE TO SAVE HIMSELF. Think about that. If you want to stay in the game, there's only one correct play. You vote for the other guy. The only way that this is understandable is if: A) He WANTS to be lynched. B) He KNOWS he's not going to be lynched. Let's examine his defence. On October 09 2010 03:56 CynanMachae wrote: So you are basically saying that out of the 4 mafias leftover (since i would be the 5th one), I knew that they would swing it over by all voting for someone else and saving me? Seems a pretty dumb mafia move right there with the 6 voters on Protactanium and bumatlarge being a confirmed green. I didn't feel threatened cause the 3 votes I had happened very early on with quite bad reasons and the rest of the thread was about others suspects/inactives pretty much. 3 hours is quite a lot of time if I come back and see I'm getting the rest of the votes. On October 08 2010 18:51 kingjames01 wrote: Anyway, I'd like to sum up the voting from the first day and what information I can glean out of it. Please add to, refute, expand or whatever to this discussion: - The first day we lynched the Village Idiot, Protactinium. What can we learn? - There were 5 mafia and 20 non-mafia to begin the game - Protactinium was the Village Idiot and thus non-mafia - Mafia knew that he was non-mafia but not which role and thus a candidate to vote for the lynch - 6 votes went to Protactinium so at most 5 votes came from the mafia Now, I'd like to suggest that we look really closely at Crisis_, CynanMachae, ghrur and infinitestory. What I have noticed while summarizing this information: - Protactinium only had 1 vote until less than 3 hours remaining - Bill Murray voted first for Protactinium with almost 25 hours remaining - When the votes started coming in for Protactinium, two players were at-risk of being lynched: Crisis_ and CynanMachae with 3 votes each - CynanMachae had received his 3rd vote first thus placing him on the chopping block according to the rule clarified by Artanis[Xp] mid-game After this point, the order of voting was: - CynanMachae ##Vote Padain (2:42 remaining) Comment: You were in the lead and headed to the gallows. With only 2:42 left before nightfall, why did you not vote for Crisis_ so that you were not in the lead??? Is it possible that you DON'T want Crisis_ to be lynched? - ghrur ##vote protactinium (2:24 remaining) - infinitestory ##vote proactinium (2:11 remaining) Comment: Twenty minutes apart, two votes come in to make 3 players tied in votes. Interesting. Coincidence or not? I will continue and see if a pattern emerges. SiNiquity ##vote protactinium (1:46 remaining) Comment: New leader in the votes NukeTheBunnys changing vote (##Unvote CynanMachae) ##vote Protactinium (0:53 remaining) Comment: NukeTheBunnys removes CynanMachae out of the running to be lynched and moves Protactinium ahead of Crisis_. Now, even if Crisis_ receives an extra vote, Protactinium will still be lynched since he reached 4 votes first. This seems to be in line with CynanMachae's earlier play. Crisis_ ##Vote Protactinium (0:44 remaining) Comment: This vote could be made to save himself even though he is behind at this point. Again, this seems to be along the same thought process as CynanMachae's earlier vote. infinitestory ##Unvote (Protactinium) ##Vote: JeeJee (0:26 remaining) Comment: If I were to analyze this vote in terms of what has been written above, then it seems now that Protactinium is ahead in the voting and neither CynanMachae nor Crisis_ are at risk, infinitestory retracts his earlier vote and votes for someone who can not be lynched with only 1 vote. Why waste your vote with less than half an hour left? Is this coincidence or is this a purposeful move to cover your earlier vote? bumatlarge ##vote protactinium (0:03 remaining) Comment: bumatlarge turns out to be a Green and so there is no malice in this vote. CynanMachae's defence is that to claim mafia would not expend 4 votes to save one person so it can't be true. But what if the mafia thought they could save 2 of their own? CynanMachae and Crisis_? That's the difference between 2 Kills and 1 Kill a night... Doesn't this warrant more attention from us? Now, I'm going to go on the record and say that I don't think that CynanMachae is mafia. From his defence post, which I truncated, I think that he didn't realize how close he was to being lynched or the best play to save himself. I think he made a mistake but won't admit to it now. I'd like another explanation please. Did you REALLY gamble on your fate because you GUESSED that someone else would earn 6 more votes (one was repealed)? That seems too flimsy to let pass. Now, I want to make my real point. There's something really wrong about what's going on in the last few hours. It seems to me that there's a lot of posturing or manipulation going on in plain sight. XeliN and NukeTheBunnys are attacking each other and everyone else is staying silent. What are we hoping for? That one or both are mafia and might slip up? Pandain is applying pressure to CynanMachae to get him to open up. DoctorHelvetica weighs in and suggests infinitestory or SiNiquity. CynanMachae defends himself but not completely and then Pandain decides to back down and starts to look at infinitestory. DoctorHelvetica chimes in and says to look at SiNiquity. After Pandain takes a good look at infinitestory he concludes that there is not enough to go on and implies that the suggestion to investigate SiNiquity is a valid one but won't make the effort. Why is DoctorHelvetica calling the shots? What did I miss? Has DoctorHelvetica been confirmed as Blue? I may not be experienced but I feel as though we are being manipulated. He comes into the thread, makes some suggestions about other players and disappears letting others do the work. If he cares so much about finding proof against infinitestory or SiNiquity then why doesn't he do the work himself? Now he's gone and started a bandwagon against Misder. This is ludicrous. My suggestion is for the Detective to check him tonight. Unfortunatly, there's no way for the detective to reveal DoctorHelvetica's role without putting himself at risk. Without the ability to PM, we need to keep the Detective hidden. Has anyone ever played a game without PM's? How do we use the Detective? | ||
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kingjames01
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Someone explain to me why we should take a risk with this. I've already asked and we can't take it back tomorrow. Is the plan to use one of the kills on Bill Murray if he doesn't get killed tonight, like Pandain and NukeTheBunnys had suggested? I'm still not convinced that he's Red. What if he's a second Village Idiot? What if he was just really excited because he thought that he could single-handedly corral all of the mafia? Give me a good reason or I'm going to abstain from that vote. Also, I don't understand how not voting Double Lynch is anti-town. | ||
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kingjames01
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On October 09 2010 08:30 Pandain wrote: If he's VI, than unless the mafia get EXTREMELY lucky and roleblock the vigi he will die. It's true, we are taking a slight risk. But a very small one. But the possibility that he's VI AND the vigi get's roleblocked is less than .01% asumming an equal chance of everything. Of course analysis can find things pure statistics can, think about that. Do you really think we're not going to have enough info by tommorow? With a (hopefully) vigi kill, this lynch, all the previous info, and possibly a dt check? So what you're saying is that with a Vigilante kill, a lynch vote, 2 mafia kills, a Detective check (also, a possibility for a Medic Save), we're going to learn a lot. Fine, I can see that. I still feel very uneasy about what's going to happen tonight. I feel like the town is quickly losing control and I want us to stop our infighting so that we can use our heads again. I have 2 questions for you: 1) Why do you assume that there is a mafia RoleBlocker? 2) Why did you stop pushing CynanMachae? I still don't think he's in the clear. | ||
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kingjames01
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On October 09 2010 08:34 CynanMachae wrote: I don't remember who stated it earlier, but it has been suggested that if BM doesnt die tonight from mafia hits, he's gonna be a target for tomorrow's lynching. If he's the VI and mafia doesn't kill him they risk loosing tomorrow with that lynch. Wut? 6 more votes? From what I recall I was at 3 with some people at 2 and 1 at that point. That's 1-2 votes needed to TIE me and then if needed I could save myself. No I didn't think I was threatened. How could you be so nonchalant when you were in the lead with 3 votes? You're saying now, that you didn't know that you were actually TIED for first? If you voted for Crisis_ then he would have had 4 votes to your 3. If you had done the right thing then it would require 2 more votes on you for you to lose. I've tried to imagine myself in that position and I can't find ONE legitimate reason why you voted the way you did. Look at this post carefully and look at the voting pattern. On October 08 2010 18:51 kingjames01 wrote: Anyway, I'd like to sum up the voting from the first day and what information I can glean out of it. Please add to, refute, expand or whatever to this discussion: - The first day we lynched the Village Idiot, Protactinium. What can we learn? - There were 5 mafia and 20 non-mafia to begin the game - Protactinium was the Village Idiot and thus non-mafia - Mafia knew that he was non-mafia but not which role and thus a candidate to vote for the lynch - 6 votes went to Protactinium so at most 5 votes came from the mafia Now, I'd like to suggest that we look really closely at Crisis_, CynanMachae, ghrur and infinitestory. I will show why in the following discussion. To further my case I present the order of voting: + Show Spoiler + Bill Murray October 05 2010 12:12. ##vote: protactinium Cumulative Votes: (24:48 remaining) Protactinium 1 ~OpZ~ October 05 2010 12:51. ##Vote Crisis_ Cumulative Votes: (24:09 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 1 Amber[LighT] October 05 2010 22:29. ##vote: Bill Murray Cumulative Votes: (14:31 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 1 Bill Murray - 1 BrownBear October 06 2010 01:33. Vote count has been updated. 11.5 hours remaining in this day cycle. Divinek October 06 2010 01:59. ##vote cynanmachine Cumulative Votes: (11:01 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 1 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 1 NukeTheBunnys October 06 2010 02:08. ##vote cynanmachine Cumulative Votes: (10:52 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 1 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 SouthRawrea October 06 2010 05:07. ##vote Divinek Cumulative Votes: (7:53 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 1 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 Pandain October 06 2010 05:31. ##Vote Xelin Cumulative Votes: (7:29 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 1 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 XeliN - 1 kingjames01 October 06 2010 05:34. ##Vote Crisis_ Cumulative Votes: (7:26 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 2 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 XeliN - 1 meeple October 06 2010 05:42. ##Vote Cynanmachae Cumulative Votes: (7:18 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 2 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 XeliN - 1 drag_ October 06 2010 05:57. ##Vote: kingjames01 Cumulative Votes: (7:03 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 2 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 XeliN - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Pandain October 06 2010 05:57. ##Unvote (XeliN) ##Vote Infunidibulum Cumulative Votes: (7:03 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 2 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 DoctorHelvetica October 06 2010 06:00. ##Vote JeeJee Cumulative Votes: (7:00 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 2 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 JeeJee - 1 DoctorHelvetica October 06 2010 09:08. I'm changing my vote: (##Unvote JeeJee) ##Vote Crisis_ Cumulative Votes: (3:52 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 Misder October 06 2010 09:20. ##Vote ~Opz~ Cumulative Votes: (3:40 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Bill Murray October 06 2010 09:35. ##confirm vote: protactinium (No change) Cumulative Votes: (3:25 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 CynanMachae October 06 2010 10:18. ##Vote Padain Cumulative Votes: (2:42 remaining) Protactinium - 1 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 ghrur October 06 2010 10:36. ##vote protactinium Cumulative Votes: (2:24 remaining) Protactinium - 2 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 infinitestory October 06 2010 10:49. ##vote proactinium Cumulative Votes: (2:11 remaining) Protactinium - 3 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 Protactinium October 06 2010 10:59. ##Vote: XeliN Cumulative Votes: (2:01 remaining) Protactinium - 3 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 XeliN - 1 BrownBear October 06 2010 11:04. Vote Count Updated. 2 hours to go. Lot of you haven't voted yet. cSc October 06 2010 11:07. ##vote bumatlarge Cumulative Votes: (1:53 remaining) Protactinium - 3 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 XeliN - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SiNiquity October 06 2010 11:14. ##vote protactinium Cumulative Votes: (1:46 remaining) Protactinium - 4 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 XeliN - 1 bumatlarge - 1 Pandain October 06 2010 11:25. ##Unvote (XeliN) (##)Vote Sinquity Cumulative Votes: (1:35 remaining) Protactinium - 4 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 3 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 BrownBear October 06 2010 11:25. VOTE UPDATED. YOU HAVE ONE HOUR NukeTheBunnys October 06 2010 12:07. changing vote (##Unvote CynanMachae) ##vote Protactinium Cumulative Votes: (0:53 remaining) Protactinium - 5 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 Infundibulum October 06 2010 12:11. ##vote ghrur Cumulative Votes: (0:49 remaining) Protactinium - 5 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 ghrur - 1 Crisis_ October 06 2010 12:16. ##Vote Protactinium Cumulative Votes: (0:44 remaining) Protactinium - 6 Crisis_ - 3 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 ghrur - 1 Protactinium October 06 2010 12:29. ##Vote: Crisis_ Cumulative Votes: (0:31 remaining) Protactinium - 6 Crisis_ - 4 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 ghrur - 1 infinitestory October 06 2010 12:34. ##Unvote (Protactinium) ##Vote: JeeJee Cumulative Votes: (0:26 remaining) Protactinium - 5 Crisis_ - 4 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 ghrur - 1 JeeJee - 1 BrownBear October 06 2010 12:40. Votes updated for the last time before the end of the day. If you haven't voted yet, you need to do so IMMEDIATELY or risk modkill. bumatlarge October 06 2010 12:57. ##vote protactinium Cumulative Votes: (0:03 remaining) Protactinium - 6 Crisis_ - 4 Bill Murray - 1 CynanMachae - 2 Divinek - 1 kingjames01 - 1 Infundibulum - 1 ~OpZ~ - 1 Pandain - 1 bumatlarge - 1 SINiquity - 1 ghrur - 1 JeeJee - 1 BrownBear October 06 2010 13:00. DAY HAS ENDED. Protactinium is to be lynched. Night post coming soon. What I have noticed while summarizing this information: - Protactinium only had 1 vote until less than 3 hours remaining - Bill Murray voted first for Protactinium with almost 25 hours remaining - When the votes started coming in for Protactinium, two players were at-risk of being lynched: Crisis_ and CynanMachae with 3 votes each - CynanMachae had received his 3rd vote first thus placing him on the chopping block according to the rule clarified by Artanis[Xp] mid-game After this point, the order of voting was: - CynanMachae ##Vote Padain (2:42 remaining) Comment: You were in the lead and headed to the gallows. With only 2:42 left before nightfall, why did you not vote for Crisis_ so that you were not in the lead??? Is it possible that you DON'T want Crisis_ to be lynched? - ghrur ##vote protactinium (2:24 remaining) - infinitestory ##vote proactinium (2:11 remaining) Comment: Twenty minutes apart, two votes come in to make 3 players tied in votes. Interesting. Coincidence or not? I will continue and see if a pattern emerges. Protactinium ##Vote: XeliN (2:01 remaining) Comment: Protactinium has to opportunity to push either Crisis_ or CynanMachae further to the front of the line but declines. We understand this action afterwards when it is revealed that Protactinium is indeed the Village Idiot. (Well played, you cunning bastard.) cSc ##vote bumatlarge (1:53 remaining) Comment: Voted for a Green (which we only find out the next day) SiNiquity ##vote protactinium (1:46 remaining) Comment: New leader in the votes Pandain ##Unvote (XeliN) (##)Vote Sinquity (1:35 remaining) NukeTheBunnys changing vote (##Unvote CynanMachae) ##vote Protactinium (0:53 remaining) Comment: NukeTheBunnys removes CynanMachae out of the running to be lynched and moves Protactinium ahead of Crisis_. Now, even if Crisis_ receives an extra vote, Protactinium will still be lynched since he reached 4 votes first. This seems to be in line with CynanMachae's earlier play. Infundibulum ##vote ghrur (0:49 remaining) Comment: Infundibulum turns out to be a Green and so there is no malice in this vote. Crisis_ ##Vote Protactinium (0:44 remaining) Comment: This vote could be made to save himself even though he is behind at this point. Again, this seems to be along the same thought process as CynanMachae's earlier vote. Protactinium ##Vote: Crisis_ (0:31 remaining) Comment: It seems as though Protactinium got away with voting twice. infinitestory ##Unvote (Protactinium) ##Vote: JeeJee (0:26 remaining) Comment: If I were to analyze this vote in terms of what has been written above, then it seems now that Protactinium is ahead in the voting and neither CynanMachae nor Crisis_ are at risk, infinitestory retracts his earlier vote and votes for someone who can not be lynched with only 1 vote. Why waste your vote with less than half an hour left? Is this coincidence or is this a purposeful move to cover your earlier vote? bumatlarge ##vote protactinium (0:03 remaining) Comment: bumatlarge turns out to be a Green and so there is no malice in this vote. I posted this a while back and I gave you ample time to prepare a good defence. I even gave you a way out if you wanted it. You just had to admit that you made a mistake. At least that I could understand. There's so much going on, it's really hard to keep everything straight. However, you keep saying that even though you were in the lead, you didn't feel any pressure and that you could get yourself out at any time. | ||
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kingjames01
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On October 09 2010 09:00 CynanMachae wrote: Why would I need time to say what went through my mind when I voted like I did. If you don't think that was the best descision, I'm fine with it. You are basically telling me right now that if I was mafia I could have taken an easy way out that you GAVE me so that I could explain my vote. Good job on trying to find mafias. No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I never said that if you were mafia you would admit that you were wrong. I'm saying that you didn't make the correct choice during the voting process. If you knew you were innocent and wanted to stay in the game, then you would have voted someone else to the front of the line, especially since you couldn't know what role anyone else had. With no PM's no one should know what anyone else is going to do before it appears in the thread. You seemed to. How did you know that even if you did not vote for Crisis_, you'd be okay? I just wanted you to confirm/deny/explain your actions. Your justification is that you could get yourself out later if you wanted to. If even one more person voted for you before you decided to vote for Crisis_, you would never have been able to avoid the gallows without intervention. Because of that fact, I am forced to vote for you. I held off my vote until I heard it from you directly. I'm playing to the best of my ability and at the moment, it's clear to me that something isn't adding up. | ||
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