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On September 09 2010 08:39 Incognito wrote:I would like to comment on Village Idiot. The last game it existed, all it did was disrupt the town and that's it. I think the role should actually have strategic impact on the game. One change I would suggest is that lynching the Village Idiot ends the game immediately with a Village Idiot win. That's right. No chance for mafia or town to win anymore. While this may seem volatile and could easily ruin a large 50 player game where people put countless hours into behavior analysis, this is a much smaller game. And lets face it, people don't pour hours into behavior analysis like they used to in the past. A little fun and games along with serious consequences for lynching the village idiot might actually get people to analyze more. It also makes the village idiot think seriously about his role. Otherwise its kinda like a "bummer" role where you have no incentive to play the game other than some mild bragging rights if you succeed. Ending the game after the village idiot's death gives them a LOT more bragging rights and forces people to think 
As someone who has played this role, I completely agree with it. VI isn't fun to play unless you add this factor in.
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On September 09 2010 09:48 Incognito wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2010 09:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On September 09 2010 08:39 Incognito wrote:I would like to comment on Village Idiot. The last game it existed, all it did was disrupt the town and that's it. I think the role should actually have strategic impact on the game. One change I would suggest is that lynching the Village Idiot ends the game immediately with a Village Idiot win. That's right. No chance for mafia or town to win anymore. While this may seem volatile and could easily ruin a large 50 player game where people put countless hours into behavior analysis, this is a much smaller game. And lets face it, people don't pour hours into behavior analysis like they used to in the past. A little fun and games along with serious consequences for lynching the village idiot might actually get people to analyze more. It also makes the village idiot think seriously about his role. Otherwise its kinda like a "bummer" role where you have no incentive to play the game other than some mild bragging rights if you succeed. Ending the game after the village idiot's death gives them a LOT more bragging rights and forces people to think As someone who has played this role, I completely agree with it. VI isn't fun to play unless you add this factor in. What ? i dont recall you getting this role? I thought it was RoL and I thought we've only used the role once.
RoL had it, then he faked being jack and someone randomly picked out ace as mafia (ace was gf) and ace ragequit. Caller immediately reran game and I got VI. I faked insane dt and got myself lynched lol.
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Hesmyrr just got lawyered
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Just caught up on this mess, and really? You guys just killed flamewheel off of this?
My fucking god. This bodes terribly.
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Ok Medics, here is how the game should be played tonight.
Make a list of people you think are innocent. Now, it has to be a list of a few people. ANALYZE them every day to make sure they don't change from town to scummy in your eyes, and prot them, non stop or until we have a better idea. If anyone who pushed for flamewheels lynch is on your list, slap yourself really hard and remake your list.
As for the rest of the town. Take the time now to either look at the name above or below you in the list, and look over their posts and analyze them. Post that analysis in thread for debate. Lets get us some targets. Hell after this day there is a ton of crap to look through.
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On October 06 2010 14:16 fIamewheel91 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 14:05 SiNiquity wrote:On October 06 2010 14:04 fIamewheel91 wrote:
Stop. Fucking. Spamming.
God, every single time. Something about a hellspawn and being quiet. I'm not in this game, good sir.
you died twice in one game, new record sir.
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a smurf is still a smurf jerk
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On October 06 2010 14:29 Bill Murray wrote:
if we had no lynching i would have pushed for that tbh
i am still proud that i found an anti-town player on day 1
it shows my radar is correct as to who is not helping us
You knew who his smurf was, and had more than 1 game to analyze his play from both sides of the table. He was obviously not red as he knows better to get flagged by day 1 on radars like that. The next obvious choice would be dt check him night 2, or have a vig hit him at night to be safe. In a game where someone is aiming to get lynched you have to take their skill into effect.
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On October 06 2010 14:58 Bill Murray wrote:
what is scumhunting? Finding anti-town roles
he was an anti-town role, he played EXACTLY like he does when he has an anti-town role.
I scumhunted well. Sorry you're jealous.
Yes, analyzing someone who wanted to get lynched was well done. Had it been anyday but day 1 apparently you would have lost the game, bravo, I am obviously jealous of such talent.
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On October 07 2010 10:26 kane]deth[ wrote:
I have no idea what to do once again. The more I try to find suspicious people, the more I think everyone is suspicious. I suppose I'll just keep reading and see if anyone really jumps out at me ._.
I am pretty sure you were replaced by rebirth of legend 
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On October 07 2010 12:54 infinitestory wrote:
Here's hoping blues (DT(s) especially) sent in their night actions, so we can get something more concrete to work with soon.
all i have to say is ......
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Wait? I sub into a game and after a singular night, our returning champion BM, the king among morons comes in proclaiming "hi guys, I wont claim my role but im town, lynch this guy hes red". Guess what, he just pulled this crap on flamewheel, and flame flipped VI.
before you try to say "NUH UH"
On October 07 2010 13:58 Bill Murray wrote:
lets have an open roleclaim. BC, you first. I'm town, but I'm not saying what at this point
people can say "no, we shouldn't roleclaim, it is way too early". I just want people to claim town/townie, not what role they are.
If I was mafia, I wouldn't have the balls to say this. This is too obvious to be the play of mafia. Lynch BC if I get mislynched. If he flips red, look at ~OpZ~ and DoctorH. If you all want to win, listen to me.
Claim.
I'm claiming town.
We need to consolidate through claims.
Trust me on this one, and we will have a good game.
You then auto finger other known mafia players, who arguably have more experience than most of the town at this point, keeping in mind you knew flamewheels smurf, and then failed to inform anyone (even after he said it was fine to) you got him lynched. You are obviously aiming to off people who might be able to fight your ability to spam a thread with meaningless shite.
Everyone, just listen to simple facts.
BM is refusing to claim his role (other than town aligned, but softclaimed blue)
He is pointing fingers left and right at players without actually bringing posts into the mix as to why he believes they are red
He so vigorously pushed the lynch that should have ended the game
HE then bitched and moaned to have the game restarted as he didn't want to play a game where he knew anyone with experience behind them would push for people to
a) lynch him
or
b) ignore him for the rest of the game
Everyone should keep in mind that when bm is town he is horrifically useless and just ends up helping the mafia.
Just ignore him and lets move onto reasonable targets for the day
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On October 07 2010 13:35 Bill Murray wrote:This shows to me that the person who is putting the hits in sucks at blue sniping. Let me decide who is high tier enough to call the shots yet not hit a blue. 1. LSB 2. bumatlarge townie 3. Bill Murray 4. Pandain 5. SouthRawrea 6. Amber[LighT] 7. Infundibulum 8. Divinek 9. Misder 10.SINiquity 11.XeliN 12.RebirthOfLegend 13.~OpZ~ 14.DoctorHelvetica 15.infinitestory 16.cSc ->17. Happy.fairytail BloodyC0bbler <-18.NukeTheBunnys 19.Crisis_ 20.drag_ 21.CynanMachae 22.meeple 23.kingjames01 24.ghrur
Doing an iso on slot 17Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 14:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ok Medics, here is how the game should be played tonight.
Make a list of people you think are innocent. Now, it has to be a list of a few people. ANALYZE them every day to make sure they don't change from town to scummy in your eyes, and prot them, non stop or until we have a better idea. If anyone who pushed for flamewheels lynch is on your list, slap yourself really hard and remake your list.
As for the rest of the town. Take the time now to either look at the name above or below you in the list, and look over their posts and analyze them. Post that analysis in thread for debate. Lets get us some targets. Hell after this day there is a ton of crap to look through. I have viewed this post as gloating, and rolefishing. Why would BloodyC0bbler have reason to be fishing for a medic? Consider the fact that Happy.Fairytale was spouting babble about the DT, and I am very happy voting to lynch slot 17 which was Happy.Fairytale and is now BloodyC0bbler. Posts 234/235 by Happy.Fairytale were posts to fake being useful to the town Post 255 is him fishing for Detectives through number "analysis" Post 257 by Happy.Fairytale: Please read this + Show Spoiler +On October 05 2010 23:19 Happy.fairytail wrote:
Yeah, I'm pretty concerned that we could potentially have 8 mod deaths by the end of today. (Not worried about Bill Murray and Cynan, it seems they're around and will post in time)
Also, in terms of accusations, I think we should start now. We only have 14 hours before the day ends, so we should give a few hours to accusations, a few hours to defending, a few hours to some townsperson deliberation, and a few hours to vote.
So inactives, now is the time for you guys to start speaking up. I'm going to point out JeeJee just 'cuz he's at the top of the inactive list, and I know he's around because I just checked his post history and his last post was 10 hrs ago (13:09 TL time). So speak up man. This shows that he is just talking for the sake of talking. This makes the second time in a row he has posted right after his original post. If he was town, he would only need one really lengthy post, or a string of spam. I believe he is putting on a false face. I hope that you all will be convinced of Happy.Fairytale/BloodyC0bbler (remember, they're the same person as the slot) being scum. BC's play is a LOT weaker as scum based upon meta, and his play this game is so weak I wasn't even sure he was even IN the game. Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 21:21 Happy.fairytail wrote:
shoot, I didn't vote last night ... worked all night yesterday and fell asleep with the lights on and everything. am I mod killed? =T (gonna read the last 12 pages of posts now) Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 21:56 Happy.fairytail wrote:
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I had all this analysis done on this awesome spreadsheet, setting up profiles of every single person ... arghhhhhhhhhhhhfahsofuiaw8efu9anh7q23984nvpauilfjvo;uw3avn78o3nvr8oPA*OVRNA@NV These two things are nearly an open contradiction. "I haven't read 12 pages" followed immediately by 35 minutes and then "I had all this analysis done on this awesome spreadsheet". BULLSHIT. Lynch BloodyC0bbler.
Wait lawl?
Your case against me personally is I gave real advice that needed to be said to ALL OF THE NEW BLOOD as a scum tell? Then proceed to make up some random nonsense reason that only I am top tier enough to not hit a blue? Seriously? Go look at my track record dude, pretty well every game I have actively played while been red has led to almost consistant blue hits every single night of gameplay.
But hey, lets not bring actual facts into an argument, lets just bullshit your way through a game,
Hell even your contradiction is laughable. He had how much actual time to do what he said he had done minus 12 hours. Creating a spreadsheet/worddoc with information is becoming common place, and insanely useful. You start it typically day 1, and add/alter information as the game progress'
This is a desperate attempt to save yourself, and your clinging at straws.
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On October 07 2010 14:44 Bill Murray wrote:
"your" a terrible player when you are red, and very weak.
My case doesn't HAVE to be on you when you replace in, chief
sorry you're busted. flail more.
Really? You analyzed me, then posted a quote on someones "contradiction"
Considering players often create documents of analysis early on your actual evidence is lacking. You are just doing what you did to flamewheel offering shit on a stick and trying to sell it as something else.
First time you get shit on yourself and everyone else for failing so hard, then your like "well I'm the best motherfucker around" and attempt again. If you think I'm red stop spamming the thread and build a real case.
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On October 07 2010 14:47 Bill Murray wrote:
don't forget to read your role pms
You too dude, you have to relook to realize "massive troll" isn't a real role.
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On October 07 2010 14:49 Bill Murray wrote:
that someone is you. Happy.Fairytale is you. Are you disputing that? you replaced into his slot. That's you. Deal with it.
I'm not going to stop spamming until you claim either
a) town
b) townie
c) you don't claim and we lynch you to see what you'll flip
I'm town, and you already know that. I didn't disagree that I filled his slot, I do disagree with the specific reasons you weighed against me as you know damn well your lying and I will recommend any of the newer players to go check the previous games to catch you on that.
Your contradiction of hft is also laughable as your having issues with someone having time to do analysis up until they got swapped out. Who cares if he missed 12 hours? Until the last minute vote swing you did in a 4 hour period there was nothing he would have missed.
Now seriously stop spamming, you've been warned for it in previous games as well as near modkilled for it so stop it and make detailed posts.
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On October 07 2010 14:53 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2010 14:49 infinitestory wrote:On October 07 2010 14:46 Bill Murray wrote:
You, too, infinitestory. I claim town. I have no idea where you could possibly be going with this. DO NOT ANSWER HIS QUESTION FOR TOWN/TOWNIE. HE IS ASKING YOU BLUE/GREENHe's trying to get out who is blue/green so mafia can blue snipe.
Except any smart green would soft claim blue to fuck with the mafia. Every VI will claim something to get lynched.
He is fishing, but he knows anyone smart won't fall for it. Hence him spamming our posts out of existence.
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On October 07 2010 14:55 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Well...I need to see some more before I can really narrow anything down. It's 1:40 and I work at 8....I'm really crossing too much time as it is. But I'll look at Misder.
*that post in relation to misder was me narroring for you infinite*
Also, BM, I'm not defending myself. I'M HAPPY IF SOMEONE WILL EXPLAIN WHY THEY FEEL I'M SCUMMY.
I've done asked you AND Misder to explain. Neither have provided me with ANYTHING more than POSSIBLE intuition? Oh come the fuck on.
Welcome to BM, whos intuition would have lost the town the game already if not for a host who didn't want their first game to be ruined by a retard.
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On October 07 2010 14:57 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2010 14:53 ~OpZ~ wrote:On October 07 2010 14:49 infinitestory wrote:On October 07 2010 14:46 Bill Murray wrote:
You, too, infinitestory. I claim town. I have no idea where you could possibly be going with this. DO NOT ANSWER HIS QUESTION FOR TOWN/TOWNIE. HE IS ASKING YOU BLUE/GREENHe's trying to get out who is blue/green so mafia can blue snipe. ok, here is our lynch for today opz fell right into my trap town = green in this game. Show nested quote +On October 07 2010 14:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On October 07 2010 14:53 ~OpZ~ wrote:On October 07 2010 14:49 infinitestory wrote:On October 07 2010 14:46 Bill Murray wrote:
You, too, infinitestory. I claim town. I have no idea where you could possibly be going with this. DO NOT ANSWER HIS QUESTION FOR TOWN/TOWNIE. HE IS ASKING YOU BLUE/GREENHe's trying to get out who is blue/green so mafia can blue snipe. Except any smart green would soft claim blue to fuck with the mafia. Every VI will claim something to get lynched. He is fishing, but he knows anyone smart won't fall for it. Hence him spamming our posts out of existence. OH, you just fell for it TOO LOL EBWOP FOR THE WIN I WAS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I AM AMAZING AT MAFIA LOL BC AND OPZ JUST GOT OWNED. From the OP: Show nested quote +Green Citizen (Town)
You are the average schmuck who makes up the backbone of the town side. You have no special powers except voting, but you are the silent majority. Enjoy that feeling for a moment. Enjoy it.
Yeah, you all know what Town does at this point. Vote by day, stay at home and wet themselves by night. GREEN = TOWN BC + OPZ DONT REALIZE BC + OPZ = MAFIA GG.
ROOOOOFL. Nice try BM. A town aligned player would be blue or green, and VI in terms of town winning with majority. Nice try though moron. You can spout "well the original PM says this" but no one would look at their role as "Hi, im a town" as then we would have multiple towns + multiple families. No, a person living in a town is a townie. Any blue who is not going to claim, an asshole red, or any other will claim town aligned, or townie, good job!
Stop trying to make something from nothing and play for real? k thanks.
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On October 07 2010 15:03 Bill Murray wrote:
You failed to realize the way it was worded, and are therefore mafia.
I'm glad you fell into my trap, too. I knew you were an idiot based upon your grammar, but I figured you were smarter than OpZ and wouldn't fall into it.
Lawl. Sure thing, the fact you know basic english anyone living in a town is a townie is hilarious.
Hell if you want to get technical, brownbear calls them green citizens in his OP. So we both used the wrong word, good job to us!
Stop pushing lynches off of baseless reasons.
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