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On August 06 2010 10:51 JeeJee wrote: /sign stupid caller and his whippersnapper game :S Is that still going on? I kindof want to join in if it is. | ||
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On August 21 2010 08:28 Bill Murray wrote: see, this is where radfield is being unhelpful. Just claim some numbers, man. you are, too, citi.zen, for joking. You know what I mean. I know Radfield is helping through policy discussion and game theory. Durr. chaoser:4 Pandain:6 Bill: 7 Hesmyrr/zeks: 8 you see how this helps, now? I was going to pick 6. I had sent in [6] [4]. I knew to change when I saw pandain say that. Mafia will be picking single digit numbers, honestly. The highest they might pick is around 10-12, but I seriously doubt that. ( i think they did that last game, though, but it was honestly dumb to do that) I won last game by picking like [17]. We didn't claim what we were picking, so there were a lot of doubleups on numbers. If the town coordinates on the numbers they're picking, the mafia will be forced to claim and follow what they claimed, or lie to us. rastaban: 3 chaoser:4 LSB: 5 Pandain:6 Bill: 7 Hesmyrr/zeks: 8 I will be picking 5,1 | ||
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JeeJee: 1 DTA: 2 rastaban: 3 chaoser:4 LSB: 5 Bill: 6 Hesmyrr/zeks: 8 Pandain: 12 | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Floridian Pardoner Bad Santa Vengeful Player Day Vig Role Cop Tracker Joat Bullet Bill Alignment Cop Bulletproof Veteran Meth Man Doctor Doctor Mason Copy Cat Watcher Comp Vig Martyr Just randomly assign people to a role. Then, role cops / watchers have their job a lot easier. Also, if a person picks a role, and discovers he's vanilla, its another way to detect something fishy. | ||
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The day vigi can kill me day 1 to verify that I am town. | ||
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But why is Day Vig a mafia role? | ||
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On August 23 2010 07:06 Pandain wrote: #1 Comp Vig #2 Bad Santa #3 Prince of Darkness #4 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role(Vet, Meth Man, or Bulletproof. 33% chance of each) #5 50% Joat......... 50% Defensive role #6 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role #7 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role #8 50% Joat.........50% Defensive role #9 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role #10 25% Role Cop, 25% Defensive role, 50% pro town non essential role(Doctor, Doctor, Alignment Cop, Watcher, Copy Cat, Mason. You choose) #11 25% Joat, 25% Defensive role, 50% pro town non essential role #12 25% Bullet Bill, 25% Defensive role, 50% pro town non essential role #13: 50% Bad santa, 50% doctor. #14. 50% Bad Santa, 50% doctor #15. 50% Bad Santa, 50% Copy cat/doctor(25 % each) #16. 50% bad santa, 50% Copycat/doctor (25 percent each) #17 50% role cop, 50% other #18 50% Joat, 50% other #19 50% Bullet Bill, 50% other #20 50% tracker, 50% other The draft as of now. However, this does lead to tracker being less common. Any other suggestions? I'm assuming this is going to be completely randomized? Yes/no? Cause if #1 draft slot is going to draft Comp Vig, shouldn't it be quiet easy for the Mafia to stack their people as the first three picks, since a bunch of people have already declared and turned in their numbers? | ||
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On August 23 2010 07:52 Pandain wrote: The draft list will be revealed. If we just assigned roles, then mafia would know who to hit. People can change numbers. I know I am. I suggest people to do the same I guess we just sit back and see what happens. I support this plan, as long as it doesn't seem obvious that people were sniped out of positions. Too think of it, even if we announce numbers, mafia would have a hard time sniping positions. Say they only had 4 numbers. That means they can only get someone from the top 6 initial positions to the top 3 (since they can only 'collide' with so many people). Announcing numbers is a trade off. A bit of risk for a bit of data. If a few people claimed it still may be beneficial to see who got sniped. It would still be random, but we'd get some information from it. I will now just say, I have picked 5 | ||
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On August 23 2010 08:07 ~OpZ~ wrote: Whatever Bill. Go do what you do best. Had fun. Any bets that OpZ or Bill are going to draft Day Vig and kill someone day1? | ||
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On August 23 2010 10:54 Ace wrote: I spoke to Korynne and she said she wont have the time to replace in. She does have a life to live ya know?  What's that? #4 33% comp vig, 33% bad santa, 33% prince of darkness RNGing now | ||
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On August 23 2010 11:01 Divinek wrote: MISSION ACCOMPLISHED You knocked down JeeJee/DTA? | ||
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On August 24 2010 07:49 Ace wrote: Ok this should be it.
Okay, a big problem. I already sent my role into Ace. I won't disclose which one it is, but I RNGed it. I don't know if I can change my role. The mafia might be able to slip through, but the chances of them doing so would be 33%, pretty low good for us. Hesmyrr's pick will be a problem of course. I think it would be best if Hesmyrr didn't deviate too far from the plan. Possibly picking some defensive role or role not mentioned on the list? | ||
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Like Citi.zen said On August 24 2010 08:51 citi.zen wrote: Bm is only ok as Mafia, otherwise he's disruptive or worse. Would be ok lynching him... why not :-) | ||
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So here are the people and their claims so far Chaoser, Subverion Me Hesmyrr: Claims to have RNGed CV and failed Zeks SouthRawrea: Claims to have Picked Traitor and failed Let’s take a look at specific people SouthRawrea Assuming SouthRawrea is town: As town, SouthRawrea would have incentive to immediately tell what happened. It would be perfectly natural. So if he’s town, he’s telling the truth. Assuming SouthRawrea is mafia: This could be a mafia disruption tactic. (see Penalty Mafia, how Bill Murray goes in and acts completely scummy). By sending SouthRawrea, immediately a witchhunt goes on, trying to lynch random people, buying the Mafia valuable time. For example SouthRawrea drafts Prince of Darkness. He’d end up vanilla. He then claims that he drafted traitor but failed. The town would proceed to kill Subverion, Me, Hesmyrr, Chaoser (maybe even Zeks too). And SouthRawrea wouldn’t have trouble persuading the town to kill these “useless anti-town roles”. Boom. That’s a lot of people dead. It would take us 4-5 innocent lynches to take down SouthRawrea, a very good trade off. Like citi.zen said Citi.zen: What worries me here is that if we screw up 3-4 lynches it’s quite possible we lost. Hesmyrr Out of the top 5, Hesmyrr is the most likely to want to pick Traitor. Because, his role is boring. He is supposed to check to see if Me/Sub/Chao picked the correct role. Probably getting a vanilla role. There is a very small chance that he might make a discovery. On the other hand, he could take traitor, probably won’t be caught, because really, no one will check him. Perfect position. The fact that Hesmyrr could be an undetectable traitor is very troubling. Chaoser, confirmed by Hesmyrr. The chances that Subverion/zeks took his role and Chaoser took traitor is very slim. Subverion: Bad Santa is defiantly an interesting role Zeks: idk Me: PoD ftw! I haz cool role that the mafia wants badly. Muhhahahahaha! What happens if we lynch… SouthRawrea: He flips Mafia, we know that there isn’t a traitor. (Or, there is a traitor, but the mafia doesn’t know about it, and the traitor could be anywhere) Flips town, we know that there is a traitor. Hesmyrr He flips traitor: :D! Flips town: We know that Chaoser is town. Confirming Chaoser: It’s quiet easy to confirm Chaoser, we simply tell the CV “IF you are Chaoser, kill SouthRawrea. IF you are not Chaoser, kill someone else” Confirming Me/Zeks/Subverion. It’s a bad idea to tell us to use our roles. Well, Sub can’t. I’m not dumb, and Zeks should remain hidden. We could have the role cop check on people’s roles. That seems good at a glance, but I don’t know if we want to trade our role cop, for someone that isn’t yet a mafia member and might not count as a mafia member. | ||
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If that is so, it is not a good idea to lynch SR, because he could just add kp, but rather we should have the CV kill off SR I want a bit more time before i make a decision Im 60% sure that SR is the vengeful mafia (a great way to pull off an extra KP, trying to get lynched) But im going to need more proof | ||
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