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So many new faces  Lynching an inactive is the usual order of things, an initial list of who isnt posting is a decent path to go. But lets assume that everyone will post, so keep tabs on the quality of posts. If someone is posting alot but squekin by on the quality department, thats a solid candidate. And I think we have alot of new players, so just in case you dont know what to post: - Try not to make useless posts unless your HILARIOUS like me. - If you dont know where to start, just speculate about the blue roles and ideas. Scared about that? Give opinions about other ideas! Just pour your heart out and if you are completely honest, you'll gain some cred in the view of the town. EVEN IF YOU ARE A GREENIE, MAKE BELIEVE YOU ARE BLUE. But just dont lie, lying is bad  (see citizen in XXVIII, even though it was kinda justified). I think it hit me when last game how well BC and his scummers were sniping roles based on posts. If you can think like you are the most important when you post, you will be such a threat to mafia. In a previous game, I said "Dont be afraid to die" but I guess that can be misleading, because I dont want you running out there saying "LYNCH ME" -_- just be willing to put yourself on the chopping block if you really disagree with what someone says or does.- You know what you are, so use you're own gut feelings on things. Dont listen to what ANYONE else says, unless you can see the benefits yourself. If I am certain scum in your eyes, and no one else thinks so, you have an obligation to make sure that I die, or die trying. I don't believe anyone here is stupid, or else you wouldnt be on TL. - If you are blue, again use your own judgement, and blend in as much as possible. Do what you gotta do, post like you think you should to stay alive. - If you are mafia, try to hit your own team members with some convoluted plan, frame the roleblocker, or roleblock the framer. Thats how you win as mafia. Im posting this chunk because I am not sure how active I'll be tomorrow due to work from 9-5 and then another job from 6-11 + Show Spoiler + On August 06 2010 11:35 DarthThienAn wrote: I don't know what you're talking about. Just thinking about balance, I think it's likely that we have 1 of each blue role? And probably 3-4 ninjas in the game, I'd lean toward 3. Look here for a comparison. Ninjas = Assassins, essentially. With a roleblocker + framer, something like 7 to 9 blue roles sounds right. Framer essentially replaces millers from previous games, except gives a little more power to the mafia. Roleblocker is standard. What makes things interesting is the ninjas. Not sure how that messes up balance. Discussion, go! And for the record: I am always for lynching inactives. Hmmm this seems incredibly scummy, FoS on you... I kid you darth, ninjas seem just some desu ex machina for either side, increases chances for hilarious situations. I need to read more into the blue roles. | ||
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On August 06 2010 12:03 Bill Murray wrote: I proclaim the Random Voting Stage hereby dead. I am voting not for randomness, but because I actually believe Divinek is Mafia. RNG is pure evil, agreed. Yeah lynch divinek! But I guess in his defense, he posts like that normally. Look at last game, it may seem like hes trying to create a persona as town, but I think you should judge him based the direction of his posts in general. He just comes off that way because he is a fa+ Show Spoiler + bulous opinion maker <3 But by all means, lets lynch him first if no inactives rear their ugly and obvious head. | ||
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On August 06 2010 12:26 Bill Murray wrote: you wouldn't be his scumbuddy trying to dissuade me would you? Let's lynch him and find out.  He wagoned me one game, so I want to see him suffer my pain. Plus it's his fault for coming off as an ass+ Show Spoiler + uming yet thoughtful poster. | ||
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On August 06 2010 12:28 DarthThienAn wrote: "DTA always looks scummy. He can't help it. You can't FoS someone like that with one post. It almost never works that way. " No matter what I do... =[ Try the Billmurray/Chezinu expand into L/Ace aggression and you'll be ok. That's how I win my ZvTs. I was kidding about the darth FoS tree.hugger, and I don't want him lynched any time soon. Unless hes scum, then massive FoS on everything he says. | ||
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On August 06 2010 13:13 Misder wrote: @Divenek I'll try to be as active as possible. I was better during the end of that last mafia game. At least I was right for my lynching targets  I'm not used to being active early game, so lets try this out. From my last two games, it seemed like we always tried to vote for inactives, except for the XXIII where town voted for a one liner mistake. We shouldn't do that. Because just because you make one mistake early doesn't mean you are mafia, just more likely. We should always be suspicious, but not impulsive. And the other game was where we had to vote for a mayor and a pardoner, so people had to talk. As for strategies in the beginning... no idea. I'm still learning, (I still haven't done what you told me to do BC sorry!) What are you even saying? Be sure to post a little bit more, because there isnt much substance here. | ||
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On August 06 2010 13:44 youngminii wrote: Why are you being so hard on Chez? I mean he's not BAD, but when people try to imitate him it's bad (case in point: DTA last game). I don't see why you're trying to force him to change his play when it works for him. Yeah it's annoying but if it works, it works. What's the bet that if Chez does change his style, bum will accuse him of being scum because of his changed ways? Wow I wasnt one to get on people's ass for what they said on the first day, but I may have to change that. If chez changes his style, I will eat my words. Ive seen him try to be smart about the game and succeed. You are justifying him again. If it works? He was red, and town doesnt lynch him eventually because hes being chezinu (has happened before). DOESNT WORK. Ok hes blue and hes trying to lead the scum astray, but gets lynched eventually. DOESNT WORK. Hes green, and mafia wont touch him anyway, town lynches him eventually, and although hes not blue, still a wasted lynch. DOESNT WORK. Or can I assume that by "it works", you mean it works for mafia. Im not pointing a finger at you, but you excusing him is silly. Chez knows how to act normal. Dont egg him on. | ||
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BTW hesymrr, i want greens to act blue because: 1. it makes active 2. it makes blues easier to hide amidst the town if every acts like blue instead of them attempting to seem green. But I guess you think that would make reds easier to hide? I think with so many blue roles available, we can rely on finding alot of reds with blue facts. IMO. | ||
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but enough about that, how is this watcher plan going to go through, LSB's way? | ||
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On August 09 2010 06:02 rastaban wrote: I can think of a couple flaws. Mafia claims Watcher, which is which? Roles already sent their PMs in We have random townies showing up We have more than 1 Watcher We have more than 1 Tracker,DT, Medic Target gets framed so we lynch xelin and we don't know which blue we can't trust. This is why a simple version is better 1. Watcher will know all the roles that acted, if a green gets a PM saying he acted well... and if a blue acted and didnt get a PM, the watcher is either being safe or some other problem like roleblock or mental issues. A mafia isnt going to start PMing people. 2. Anyone who actually reads the thread will not send a PM yet, and if they did, they would only screw everything up anyway. 3. What? 4. The more the merrier, how is this a bad thing, a watcher PMs a watcher, vice versa and they should realize that they are both watchers. Other wise they stay silent until a safer form of communication is available (Someone claims and they can prove it) If there information matches up, we can be pretty safe in assuming this isnt a problem. 5. The watcher doesnt have to say anything if he gets 20 people visiting one person. He can be pretty satisified with more blues. If there are less then 4 visitors, either mafia missed their boat, or we have a severe blue handicap. 6. I think we can assume this is going to happen, and if it doesnt, oh well. Xelin isnt the crucial part, its that the watcher gets information we can use, he just needs to figure out a way to get it to us. The only thing I see beneficial in not doing this, is getting lucky with blue actions on night 1, as in DT checking a red, medic saving someone, or some other stuff. It doesnt really hurt us that a watcher who knows he is town, and the only issue would be mafia getting a hold of that info. | ||
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@Foolishness: are you referring to hesmyrr? | ||
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