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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 29 2010 04:33 GMT
#10
This will be awesome. I know it (also kinda feel bad for new players who while seeking for meta will futilely look for the passed number. Maybe after few months we should start saying "flamewheel played epic game on Mafia XXIX" or "look at Bill Murray at XXIX as example how NOT to play town" to confuse the newcomers )
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
July 29 2010 10:39 GMT
#27
Is PM between the Townies allowed as usual? Because if so I'll actually have to think about this before auto inning.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 15:53:20
July 30 2010 15:53 GMT
#59
On July 30 2010 11:10 SiNiquity wrote:
/in if it starts after 8/2


Edit: Hey, I'm marine now!
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 05:10:34
August 03 2010 15:42 GMT
#119
On August 03 2010 15:01 Roffles wrote:
/in with the stipulation of posting a lot less than I would normally post. Don't wanna inflate this post count too much.

In fact I don't see myself posting much until player number goes down to about 10 but meh.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 04 2010 05:10 GMT
#121
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=5894080
Ninja-edit
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 23:45:01
August 05 2010 23:44 GMT
#154
:3 *throws a lightning*
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 06 2010 23:48 GMT
#451
*Look at the pages* *Facepalm* I forgot the ridiculous amount of posts this mafia community can drudge up within a day. Conscious stream of posts coming. This post uses extensive use of links, click underlined words for the referenced post.

Pandain
"Far too early to vote for someone because you think their mafia ... I still believe we should be pressuring every inactive person by threatening to lynch an inactive person."
Nah, the pressuing inactive is good and well, but it doesn't mean you can't display serious suspicions alongside with the pressure. In fact discussing non-random vote on someone can produce far more interesting reads instead of discussing generic policy lynch of lurkers. At current moment I do not see much credience to BM's reasoning of attack though (basically stating manner of his post feels like scum) and claiming 'RVS' to be over could potentially be gambit to put himself in pro-town light. I'll see.

Divinek immediately responding with WIFOM reasoning seems damaging to his case, but I somewhat hesitate on giving it seriously scummy read as it is still early phase of the game and I do not see a way for him to redeem himself against BM's attacks except by continually generating pro-town analysis (which can only be done after certain amount of posts were made).

bumatlarge makes me feel twitchy for some reason. Basic explanatory post for all newbies -> plays devil's advocate to Bill Murray -> votes Divinek. It might as well be prod/pressure vote to see how Bill Murray/Divinek respond though, so I'll read on. I look at the voting thread and see the bandwagon hadn't gathered much steam though, so unsure how commited he was to the vote.
"If you dont know where to start, just speculate about the blue roles and ideas. Scared about that? Give opinions about other ideas! Just pour your heart out and if you are completely honest, you'll gain some cred in the view of the town. EVEN IF YOU ARE A GREENIE, MAKE BELIEVE YOU ARE BLUE."
This advice confuses me, probably because I don't explicitedly understand meaning behind some parts of the sentence

Bill Murray
Awesome, pull a fishing or pressure bandwagon upon someone and immediately reveal your intention even before lots of people had chance to respond! Negative reading here. Only pro-town motive I can see behind the post is that he found what he was looking for in one of the players responses.

youngminii did not vote for Bill Murray even after pointing out above fallacy. Positive reading.

On the other hand rastaban's action is somehow confusing.
Post stating he is going to vote for BM (13:03)
Vote for Bill Murray (13:08)
Post about his vote (13:11)
I don't see point behind 13:11 post besides potential effort to pre-emptively prevent people from having negative reaction to his countervote. Of course considering quality of posts here at this site I am giving it the benefit of the doubt though.

Divinek
"lynch all liars as they say right"
WOH?

rastaban
I am still in favour of leveling serious accusations and putting pressure upon people day 1. Attacking someone doesn't mean the town stops pressuring lurkers. Of course I agree in absense of logical accusation the town should scurry to remove active lurkers, but just saying always lynch lurkers in d1 is far too short-sighted. If we don't get correct reads in day 1, then we just have to improve our scumhunting better.

VayeshMoru
VOTING THREADS ARE SCOURGE OF THE EARTH
Okay, fist-shaking aside. I would really appreciate it if everyone consistently paid attention to the voting patterns and coax player into giving out his/her reasons. Though I agree with the sentiment, I am disposed to view this post in unfavourable light because action of Bill Murray, and in fact everyone, DOES need to be discussed. It kinda feels like attempt to draw some of spotlights away from BM.

Bill Murray
LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL LAWL
One sentence: above plan only works when all PR actually trust and claim to you, which I highly doubt happening and will result in subsequent town fail. Subsequent votes and display of people's opinions about Bill Murray's action is interesting (including youngminii's too scummy to be scum opinion) I think it would be pretty beneficial when we know BM's flip. We still have two options:do we want to lynch him today, or lynch inactive today and have investigative roles check BM?

Pyrrhuloxia
"Also, 9 people will lie. You forgot ninjas, youngminii. So we will get at least 9 liars to pick through, 3 of which will be ninjas we don't need to kill."
Just curious, why would ninjas bring unnecessary attention to themselves by claiming as PR in possibly mafia-infiltrated network who would be very eager to see blue roles dead lying on the ground?

Oh hey, ninja # gaffe. I am expecting oncoming pointless debate about number of current ninjas. No? I am pleasantly surprised.

I am tired. I will post my opinions about rest of the pages tomorrow.
Also lol love1another.
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"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 07 2010 23:59 GMT
#767
@ Pyrr : I have clarified that my vote was to placehold, and if you read through my post I was carrying out the suggestion I was giving out to everyone- do not hesitate to fos someone but never forget to keep pressure on inactives. On current standard, love1another fit the mold.

Plan
Plan
Plan
I don't have time to substantially analyze the proposal but it seem pretty solid on first glance, besides the fact that lot of people seem to be giving in their opinion- doubt I have something they have not thought of.

Sudden Roffle bandwagon is interesting, it kind of shifts the focus away from love1another (I am inclined to believe this because current debate is about whether to lynch BM or INACTIVE, love1another just feeling in INACTIVE spot. By pushing Roffles into INACTIVE spot less attention is given to former) so I am keeping my vote where it is.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 08 2010 07:34 GMT
#831
On August 08 2010 16:05 Bill Murray wrote:
FoS on hesmyrr and amber[light] for not being active enough

Better off posting one meaningful post every day rather than cluttering the thread with simple posts.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 08 2010 21:16 GMT
#865
Well, mafia may interrupt the plan but it definitely seems like it'll give us more information about scum; they are forced to fakeclaim or either get crushed by new town circle. Even if there are more than one blue roles, there really cannot be more than two. Just start verifying people's claims - it really shouldn't be that hard to do - and town has this fixed unless somebody starts acting stupid.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 09 2010 00:34 GMT
#882
I want to mention that with exception of RoTK Mafia, my play style (if you can call it that) has been consistently to make post with content and avoid meaningless fluff posts - resulting in low activity rate. I like how you assume that at least three mafia would come out of woodworks to rescue BM, who in that junction is widely criticized and whose negative flip, should that be true, will put massive suspicion on his defenders.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 09 2010 02:43 GMT
#900
On August 09 2010 11:23 tree.hugger wrote:
About the day post: This is positive. There's a missing kill there (Foolishness(?)), and a wandering townie died, which is actually somewhat fortunate. All blue roles intact, and the plan intact too. Mafia probably killed LSB because he was being really effective. Problem is, mafia suck at killing blues. If nobody screws up in pm land, (hello last game) we're set.

But about this hit, I'm positive Foolishness is telling the truth. He always gets hit night one, but flamewheel probably took pity or something, and made him a vet. Or a medic saved him, but that means our plan is screwed, and we wasted a day on this.


This seems important. Foolishness, can you clarify whether you are a vet or were medic protected?
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 09 2010 03:24 GMT
#945
Ah well, unless some order gets introduced I see the plan failing more and more. To my knowledge this is all the events that transpired:

* Foolishness was hit.
* BrownBear was role blocked.

I am not sure I can make statements about other's post since they are kind of ambiguous for moment. Hopefully you guys can start a PM circle going, but otherwise unless new events occur it seems like we would default to BM lynch for today (This IS consistent to my position if you cared to read my explanation btw, Chez).
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 09 2010 03:30 GMT
#950
Uh... mafia could not send in a kill and roleblock anyone?
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 09 2010 03:32 GMT
#951
On August 09 2010 12:26 DarthThienAn wrote:
I have an idea.

My suggestion is that we coordinate better if we know what units we have on the field. The mafia will be forced to lie, and if we coordinate early enough there is no way we can lose all of our good pieces. Every game where I've seen people nameclaim or roleclaim I've seen the town win as far as I can remember. Do you guys want to win? I am very competitive. I know I like to. I will risk my life for you guys. Feel free to claim to me. If everyone would just trust me this one time, we could have an epic game.


Basically, I'm waiting to hear about more of what went down Night 1. >>.

LOL jokepost. Are we going to have to suffer from posts like this every normal TL mafia game now?
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 09 2010 19:34 GMT
#1124
Hmm, sudden idea occurred to me that instead of sending framer etc. to Xelin in order to halt the plan, mafia could imply choose not to send any mafia member to Xelin (b/c possibility of Godfather will stall town circle formation) then further confuse the thread by cluttering the thread up with the fakeclaims.

For example, if Tracker really did not visit Xelin, the Xelin's veracity is in doubt and fear of not all PR visitng him (which CAN happen in this forum) will stall or maybe even stop the plan. Then when Xelin happens to die later on and flip town, we should definitely look heavily into everyone who gave out ambiguous soft-claims (such as VayeshMoru with his fanfic, if my memory serves?)
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 10 2010 01:25 GMT
#1227
Looks like simply clusterfuck of nothing going on. Lynch BM then "the scribe", and thereafter let's see what happens. I am confident at least one mafia to be in BM / "the scribe" / Chenizu - as all others likely believe - and after these lynches, player # should be lower enough to actually encourage me into scumhunting.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 10 2010 01:55 GMT
#1231
On August 10 2010 10:48 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 10:25 Hesmyrr wrote:
Looks like simply clusterfuck of nothing going on. Lynch BM then "the scribe", and thereafter let's see what happens. I am confident at least one mafia to be in BM / "the scribe" / Chenizu - as all others likely believe - and after these lynches, player # should be lower enough to actually encourage me into scumhunting.


did you just publicly admit you were going to be useless until a few more potential mis lynches

Oops that was poor choice of words. I meant though I will pay equal amount of effort, I do not expect much to happen with so much confusion going on with this much people.

And also lol BM.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 10 2010 02:20 GMT
#1246
On August 10 2010 11:17 Bill Murray wrote:
he's obviously going to act like i give the most info, because he's hurt that i got him lynched in an ongoing game that i don't want to reference

Wow, using the outside game content - ONGOING EVEN - to justify your argument is pretty low. Besides the fact Pyrr has been clamouring for your lynch far before the conflict started over there far far away.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 10 2010 04:16 GMT
#1280
This is why we should never trust the town circles -_-

It's interesting though, why he would choose to reveal it. If he is red there was absolutely no reason for him to make the fact public since mafia knows his identity anyway. There is no gain- unless he wants to incriminate foolishness along with him by exploiting his foolish lack of secrecy. So if he flips scum I will be slightly inclined to believe him as town.

If he is green facepalm to me for not thinking to remove cancer of the town when I had the opportunity yesterday.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
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