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On August 08 2010 08:40 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Soo I guess we don't know what roles are out there. Super mysterious. Anyone have any ideas for how to proceed? Anyone play in a game like this before? No PM's gets rid of a few things I think of. Can someone link me to a good example of a No PM game? But I think we should proceed with lynching the inactives Day 1. It puts pressure on the mafia and the town gets rid of someone that might just be playing lurker. With the penalties, everyone's abilities are dimminished, so I'm guessing we can't rely on circles and stuff (then again, that thought was kind of dead by the time PM were gone) | ||
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On August 08 2010 10:14 chaoser wrote: what's the difference between all the doctors? http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Doctor#Sanities | ||
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On August 08 2010 10:17 citi.zen wrote: I think everyone but the mafia has a penalty: On July 22 2010 23:22 Hesmyrr wrote: 3. Mafia will be provided with safe penalty claims to make early mass claim detrimental. Whatever that means. Probably I'm guessing that Mafia penalties aren't hurtful penalties, so what you were thinking | ||
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 I can't think of any plans that work. Is there a good game that I can read that's similar? | ||
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On August 08 2010 10:52 Divinek wrote: im confused as to what a safe penalty claim is even supposed to be. A safe penalty almost sounds like an oxymoron to me but i guess we dont get alot of info, this is the first like uh not standard game ive played since starting here so i hope it shall be fun and this is me saying hi Maybe a safe penalty claim would be like "You are bulletproof, but only if sometime in your post you say the word 'penalty' " Something that can't really be checked | ||
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Oh yeah that. Thanks! | ||
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On August 08 2010 18:56 Scamp wrote: And other than people who haven't posted yet, I currently have my eye on LSB and bumatlarge. LSB is acting super noobish, while bumatlarge has unhelpfully offered himself as a vigilante target for no good reason, though he claims his power sucks. Scamp, if your wondering why I'm noobish, look over my post history to see how many game I've played. As for BM. I'm wondering, if we lynch someone, would we see their role PM? Or just if someone dies would we see their role PM? Secondly, why are we assuming BM is a silent oracle? He could be a silent assassin. | ||
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On August 09 2010 00:11 citi.zen wrote: Bill, do just know Ace, or all the reds? Change vote to them sequentially if you know them, otherwise vote me then go back to w/e. Pyrr asked that question On August 08 2010 15:37 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Hey Bill Murray. I think your role might be that you get a list of the mafia, or at least a partial list of the mafia, but you aren't allowed to talk. You are only allowed to make votes. If this is true, change your vote to scamp again and then to a mafia member that is not ace (if you have more than him) and then back to ace. Or just from scamp to ace if you only know Ace. Just ignore this if it isn't true. BM responded On August 08 2010 16:03 Bill Murray wrote: unvote vote scamp unvote vote ace | ||
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On August 09 2010 07:12 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Lol "No post restriction bs though." Why didn't you post that earlier, Ace? ##abstain Talk ##vote BillMurray Other Issues -If BM actually has a weird post restriction stuff. Well after he's lynched we'll find out his role. That would be pretty helpful Why BM would do this, assuming he's mafia: Immediately, town got in a huge disarray. A split was made. BM was counting on this working so that Ace would die the first day. We then see that Ace is clean, and day 2 we would lynch BM and his best supporter, who would happen to be green. Bill's death buys 2 days and 2 innocents. However, looks like he made a small mistake :D As for lynching Pyrr. I would advise AGAINST lynching Pyrr now. The logic works like this Premise 1) If Bill Murry is Mafia, Pyrr is mafia Premise 2) Bill Murry is Mafia Therefore Pyrr is mafia. However, we should first confirm premise #2. We do that by lynching BM. We're going to lynch BM anyways, so why not now? Lynching Pyrr first could lead to a dead townie. And Pyrr being green does not tell us anything about BM | ||
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On August 09 2010 08:32 LSB wrote: Why BM would do this, assuming he's mafia: Immediately, town got in a huge disarray. A split was made. BM was counting on this working so that Ace would die the first day. We then see that Ace is clean, and day 2 we would lynch BM and his best supporter, who would happen to be green. Bill's death buys 2 days and 2 innocents. However, looks like he made a small mistake :D Oops I can't read either, there isn't any double lynch. In instead of 2 days, Bill's death buys 3 days. As day 3 we lynch his 'right hand man'. Assuming no vigis act, that would leave the town with 4 townies vrs. 2 mafia at the start of day 4. | ||
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On August 09 2010 08:48 bumatlarge wrote: Alright basically, I am a tree stump. If I use my power, I cannot die, and cannot vote. BUT if I use it, town pop goes down 1, and mafia pop goes up by 1. I.E. if i used it right now, town population would be 9 and mafia count would be 4. Im assuming that, if all the mafia are lynched out, then town wins regardless. There are no PMs allowed, so I cant accept mass roleclaim, so I dont really see a reason for me to use it anyway. ##Vote Bill Murray Don't use it!!!!! | ||
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On August 09 2010 09:08 chaoser wrote: I don't understand, what would mafia count becoming 4 mean? they have more KP? You become mafia? where's the 4th mafia? The count would matter for Lynch or Lose situations. The mafia automatically wins if they outnumber the town. | ||
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On August 09 2010 09:16 Scamp wrote: LSB your last few posts have been much better and as a result I'm less suspicious of you now. Keep playing like that. Maybe I should ask my questions in PM form to the mod then :S On August 09 2010 09:09 Divinek wrote: why is the logic that way? why cant it be the other way around, i was going to go into some big thing of explaining propositional calculus to you and other people but im sure that would just confuse people more. infact why does it have to go either way at all for sure. Surely there can be reasons for them both being mafia, or one and not the other...or even oddly enough neither i suppose http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent Go brush up on your Propositional Calculus. And Ace's post seems like complete BS. BM does a vote post. We all go wtf? Pyrr was the first one to think that BM might have some post restriction thingy, and so he tests it out. That's being smart. Not manipulative. | ||
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On August 09 2010 07:07 Ace wrote: The problem here is that Pyrr made up Bill Murray's penalty for him, and BM being who he is ran with it. Really? | ||
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There are blue roles out there. Maybe a medic that can only work every other day or something. The moment the medic reveals, the medic has until daybreak till she* dies. *Just played BW, medics are shes. So blue roles wouldn't penalty post. But the people with anti-town/quirky stuff will penalty post. Mafia can narrow down their hit list. | ||
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On August 09 2010 09:44 Ace wrote: Yes really. Remember Bill Murray voted for me without any explanation, and then Pyrr came up with the idea that Bill Murray's penalty might be he can get results of scum without talking about it. Then he asked Bill Murray twice to prove it through vote switches and then switching back on to me. Bill Murray did it and hence we had Bill Murray's penalty. Did I misread some posts or get the order of events wrong? You're misplacing cause and effect. Bill Murry votes for you. This causes Pyrr to joke, and then suspect a voting penalty. Put yourself in Pyrr's shoes. On August 08 2010 12:07 Bill Murray wrote: ##Vote Ace I immediately think placeholder. Divinek thinks the same thing that I do On August 08 2010 12:18 Divinek wrote: i was expecting more spam than that from bm Pyrr, who is playing penalty mafia, gets an idea it's a penalty. Perfectly reasonable. Because really, why would BM do that? I haven't played with BM much, but from what I've read, BM doesn't seem like pop in, vote, afk. Kind of person Pyrr tries to confirm, and BM obliges him. This does not show that Pyrr is mafia. It shows that Pyrr is playing logically | ||
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On August 09 2010 09:45 Ace wrote: Everyone should penalty post. Blue/Green it doesn't matter because all of us have roles. Penalties are NOT tied to roles. If you think Mafia is going to just start sniping everyone based off of penalties then I'll ask you the same thing I asked Pyrr - what do you want the town to do instead? Looks like your making the same mistake that BM did On July 22 2010 23:22 Hesmyrr wrote: This setup also has another twist in it; all Townies (not mafia) will have specific penalties that either diminish strength of one's ability or simply anti-town. No post restriction bs though. I want the town to lynch BM, and work from there. | ||
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