EPTPenalty Mafia
| Forum Index > TL Mafia |
|
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
| ||
|
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 08 2010 10:19 LSB wrote: Whatever that means. Probably I'm guessing that Mafia penalties aren't hurtful penalties, so what you were thinking im confused as to what a safe penalty claim is even supposed to be. A safe penalty almost sounds like an oxymoron to me but i guess we dont get alot of info, this is the first like uh not standard game ive played since starting here so i hope it shall be fun and this is me saying hi | ||
|
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
| ||
|
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
you're such a saint hesmyrr | ||
|
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
maybe he has a partial list of confirmed townies or something and he's voting for ace since he's not on that list? or maybe he's just being a dick since he cant talk | ||
|
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
| ||
|
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 09 2010 01:15 chaoser wrote: It's be pretty OP even if he got one name of the mafia since we're bound to ask him why he's just voting and then start making guesses to what his penalty is. The two likely ways he's acting the way he is if he's a day-time DT who can only vote and he checked ace or he's just dicking around. i think both are equally as likely, if not the second being more likely than the first option it's really all whether you believe him or not, because that's what it is going to come down to. You can't really rely on someone like Ace slipping up, and he's a very persuasive player so he could easily talk himself out of something I'm sure. But something like this doesnt entirely convince me of ace or bm's alignment. Since bm can act like a retard regardless of his role as we've seen and well uh i could see him doing this just as a way to get ace killed to piss him off. ill wait for more actual talking to go on before being convinced of something so easily though i guess bm can't do alot of that at the moment lol | ||
|
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
| ||
|
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 09 2010 06:54 bumatlarge wrote: I will if more then 5 people ask me too. If it wasnt for the Ace/BM thing, I would for sure. sounds like quite the dangerous role to have if you're gonna bring up it's importance and then just not say why it's so bad? im curious how the ace/bm thing interferes with us knowing your 'role' and how 5 more people would make that situation any different. ill show you mine if you show me yours wink wink | ||
|
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 09 2010 07:25 Ace wrote: @zeks: Right above where it says special rules in the OP. Aside from Bill Murray talk about the mass penalty claim. hmm you would think he wouldnt be retarded enough to do something so poor so obviously, at least if he was red since this play puts him right in the spot light, but i dont put it past him. I dont wanna hop on the wagon just yet because he's done dumb shit as town but after hearing him speak i can be more than happy killing him if he's screwing with and confusing the town even if he is green the mass penalty claim, hm i dont see how it could be bad for town? Unless perhaps there are penalties that relate to death like mine, which could have negative side effects if the mafia kill that person or something? it seems like it is far more beneficial for us to be aware of each other's restrictions so we dont paint them in a poor light for something they're unable to do, or perhaps behaving in a strange way because they have to. Could we reason out the scum from having the penalties? I dont know... maybe the scum might make up one that doesnt make any sense and we could try to catch them that way? it's hard because you have to think like how the host would think more so than just a general idea, though im sure there are some impossibilities we could eliminate based on claims in instances where something would break the game i guess. | ||
|
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 09 2010 07:41 chaoser wrote: ## vote Pyrr for now...it's kinda weird that you fed BM both "post such and such if you mean this" and then he followed suit. Seems like he's following the tune of your flute wait so are you saying bm is red with pyrr...? or he's just a mindless townie following something someone said because he likes to fuck around? i'm confused to your line of reasoning here because it doesnt really make sense. Not that i think what you're saying is totally unreasonable, i mean pyrr practically did invent his role for him incase that wasnt what he already has. i just want more explanations sir | ||
|
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 09 2010 07:53 Ace wrote: Chaoser I said the same thing earlier. Especially knowing that BM is an idiot, why would you make up a penalty for him KNOWING that would fuck around to try and kill me. Pyrr should know better than that. that's unless he's trying to get an early wagon started on you lol wouldnt that be an ideal first day lynch for the mafia, towns most experienced/recognized name... i dont like it at all hm ##vote pyrr | ||
|
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
| ||
|
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 09 2010 08:48 bumatlarge wrote: Alright basically, I am a tree stump. If I use my power, I cannot die, and cannot vote. BUT if I use it, town pop goes down 1, and mafia pop goes up by 1. I.E. if i used it right now, town population would be 9 and mafia count would be 4. Im assuming that, if all the mafia are lynched out, then town wins regardless. There are no PMs allowed, so I cant accept mass roleclaim, so I dont really see a reason for me to use it anyway. ##Vote Bill Murray so i saw you posted something and then voted, but can you justify your vote plz or say why you're doing it etc do you have your own line of reasoning or are you just wagoning cause you hate bm, cause i can totally understand that man | ||
|
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 09 2010 08:32 LSB wrote: Talk ##vote BillMurray Other Issues -If BM actually has a weird post restriction stuff. Well after he's lynched we'll find out his role. That would be pretty helpful Why BM would do this, assuming he's mafia: Immediately, town got in a huge disarray. A split was made. BM was counting on this working so that Ace would die the first day. We then see that Ace is clean, and day 2 we would lynch BM and his best supporter, who would happen to be green. Bill's death buys 2 days and 2 innocents. However, looks like he made a small mistake :D As for lynching Pyrr. I would advise AGAINST lynching Pyrr now. The logic works like this Premise 1) If Bill Murry is Mafia, Pyrr is mafia Premise 2) Bill Murry is Mafia Therefore Pyrr is mafia. However, we should first confirm premise #2. We do that by lynching BM. We're going to lynch BM anyways, so why not now? Lynching Pyrr first could lead to a dead townie. And Pyrr being green does not tell us anything about BM why is the logic that way? why cant it be the other way around, i was going to go into some big thing of explaining propositional calculus to you and other people but im sure that would just confuse people more. infact why does it have to go either way at all for sure. Surely there can be reasons for them both being mafia, or one and not the other...or even oddly enough neither i suppose | ||
|
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 09 2010 09:33 LSB wrote: Maybe I should ask my questions in PM form to the mod then :S http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent Go brush up on your Propositional Calculus. And Ace's post seems like complete BS. BM does a vote post. We all go wtf? Pyrr was the first one to think that BM might have some post restriction thingy, and so he tests it out. That's being smart. Not manipulative. you dont need to tell me to brush up on anything believe me!  i know what the basic idea you're getting into was but you dont really understand the fundamental underlying principals and i was going to explain them to you (to demonstrate instances where your reasoning could be faulty since you didnt explain your assumptions), but i realized after reading it over you and most other people probably wouldnt be able to make sense of it and it wouldnt matter anyways, because now that ace has actually explained the assumptions i agree with what he is saying that and we practically get to policy lynch someone like bm for lying, if it cant happen in XXX at least it happens here to the badie ##unvote ##vote bill murray | ||
|
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 09 2010 10:07 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: ##unvote ##vote Ace Nice job for outing like four blues already. Fuck you BM for screwing around. Don't sign up for anything again if you are gonna play like this (assuming you're not red). rofl i just vote for bm based on something logical and then you say that and it brings me to this whole big circle again is bm actually saying something useful against ace? maybe is pyrr mafia and trying to use his luck to push us to lynch ace when he knows bms info must be incomplete and incorrect? is pyrr actually right because what he just said made alot of sense fuck this game man im asking more questions than im able to answer and i dont like that at all | ||
|
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 09 2010 10:09 Ace wrote: [/b][/b]oh dear :/. A random person or random townie?. Check the wording very carefully. If it's a random person that's pretty terrible. If it's a random townie that sucks also but we can have possibly have a confirmed townie. Penalties: Ace : Must telegraph moves to the town before acting bumatlarge: If acting mafia population goes up by 1, town population goes down by 1 zeks: If lynched, random person(?) on the wagon gets permanent +1 voting power @bumatlarge: Does the PM tell you how the population works? Like do mafia basically get a townie recruited into their ranks or is it some other way it works? um ace i think only yours out of that list is a penalty because the op says if you violate your penalty 3 timse you get mod killed and the latter 2 are one use abilities and have no way of being violated | ||
|
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 04 2010 17:33 Bill Murray wrote: even if this is for testing purposes, i'm going to get ace lynched i just found a hilariously interesting post on page 3 before the game even started | ||
|
Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 09 2010 10:17 Ace wrote: [/b][/b]eh? It's still a penalty even if it's only 1 use. That doesn't change the fact. I also can't violate my penalty either. what are you saying it's impossible to not telegraph a move before doing it | ||
| ||
