This game has finally started, been checking for ages. So no-one seems to have suggested any plan of action or srs business. In fact most of the chatter reads like the ramblings of a girls coffee morning.

I would put forward two suggestions, lynch the least active person (has it's weaknesses, specially as there is very little to talk about at this stage with no info to go on) or simply use a RNG to lynch someone and go from there.

I'd prefer the latter, everytime i've played and the town does an impulsive whim first lynch a townie always dies, using a RNG then just simply going from there seems a nice way to get over the fact we have barely anything to go on.

XeliN

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July 17 2010 20:39 GMT

#300

I'm not entirely sure on the inactive thing, if there is someone who doesn't post whatsoever they are dead anyway, and it encourages people to spam simply to not be case as inactive. Depends how things work out, if there is someone who at the end of day 1 has only posted one thing that is about as useful as typing "lol mafia!" then I'd agree but it depends on circumstance.

This only really applies for the first day, after that lynching for inactivity if there is not a more obvious choice seems like a universally very good idea, but I'm surprised more people arn't considering the idea of using a RNG to decide our first kill.

And OpZ just lol @ immediately claiming 3 people seemingly randomly as mafia.

XeliN

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July 18 2010 11:03 GMT

#411

Just woke up, for now going to Vote Brownbear until I have a chance to catch up more fully, which won't be till later on.

XeliN

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July 18 2010 11:04 GMT

#412

##Vote Brownbear (this is one of those times I wish editing were allowed ^^)

XeliN

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July 18 2010 14:37 GMT

#422

Ok just caught up and out of all the ideas presented Tree.hugger's makes the most sense. We take a group of the most inactives, including people who have contributed nothing, Darth springs to mind... and then RNG to decide. From the looks of things this is going to be impossible to organise, in which case simply voting for an inactive person seems to me to be the best we can go for.

Also one post in particular stuck out to me when going over this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561&currentpage=17#329

I'm suprised no-ones mentioned this, it seems like a clear attempt to try to influence what the blues do at an early stage, I'm not going to try to read too much into it but it stuck out to me when going over this thread. Another thing that stuck out is Darth's lack of posting much at all, tbh that could be nothing though as I'm of the opinion that simply writing little to nothing on the first day might actually be more beneficial than constant speculation on not very much information but the fact he's taken the time to basically write nothing seems odd.

I'll keep my vote on brownbear for now, he's posted nothing as far as I have seen and in the past I remember him being unhelpful to the town.

XeliN

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July 18 2010 14:49 GMT

#423

Actually scrap that, I've just gone over your posts individually Youngminii and your coming across so scummy to me. You argue everyone to abstain on the first day, or vote for someone that is going to be killed anyway. That directly helps mafia, and further reduces any information that we could have going into Day 2, you've also tried to directly influence what any blues in the game do on the first day and instead of addressing the points infundulum makes against you, you flip reverse it and accuse him of being Red.

Remove vote Vote youngminii

XeliN

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July 19 2010 17:42 GMT

#524

I don't have much time currently to commit to this game as much as I'd like, still keeping track just can't go over things as carefully as I should. I'll be fine after tomorrow, just caught me at a unfortunately busy period.

Anyway, Young, going back I didn't respond to you. Your right about my criticism of you for trying to influence the action of the blues, I didn't properly read what you were suggesting, which hopefully if I am right was simply that we should have organised a system whereby we make sure the blues do not use their night actions on the same person. I stand by my analysis of you however, I went over your posts and they did strike me as suspicious. Particularly the way you were pressing for lynching someone who was going to be modkilled anyway or a no lynch, which only hurts us.

Currently the best thing to look at would be voting patterns and arguments in light of Hyperbola flipping town, I'd be careful though because it's plausible that none of the people who voted for Hyper are mafia, this is a first day lynch afterall.

Your sig freaked me out earlier when I read it Bill, was reading the rules//roles section and didnt realise sig changes apply to old posts so had a weird moment of de ja vu xD

XeliN

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July 21 2010 11:25 GMT

#837

I'm personally not convinced about Brownbear whatsoever, his suggestions and arguments may be poor but he has not acted in a way I would expect a mafia too, his reaction to peoples accusations is far more fitting with how townies respond (although this is WiFOM, but I'm going to go with the assumption that Brown would not attempt to defend himself in a manner he hoped to portray as a green reaction if he were mafia)

Out of the two candidates my inclination is for either Darth or Chaoser, the arguments against Subversion have seemed quite astute but quite frankly the actions of Darth and Chaoser so far concern me more, Darth from my past experience is extremely logical, helpful and influential. He has been none of these things this game and in the past I have only seen him in a town role. This shift in character//style would be the main reason I suspect Darth.

Chaoser has been exceptionally inconsistent so far, Pandain has outlined most of my reasoning quite well on page 39, but to surmise his arguing against "no-lynching" in order to criticise a player then abstaining, using the argument "these two players are more suspicious//more evidence against them than me". This line of argument is almost laughable and reminds me of the playground type reaction "Hey don't pick on me... look at that kid... he can't even play football and he's ugly as hell".

##Vote DarthThienAn

Out of Chaoser and Darth I would consider the latter more dangerous in a mafia role so I'll place it there.

XeliN

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July 21 2010 11:29 GMT

#838

People have also brought up my inactivity, I have been keeping track of things up to this point but in quite a skim-readish way, there is no reason now why I cannot be both active and able to look over the thread carefully but I have been very busy for the last few day's which is why I didn't post much.
Didn't particularly want to post for the sake of posting.

XeliN

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July 21 2010 13:37 GMT

#847

I'll only congratulate him if he posts thanking me for doing so xD

XeliN

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July 24 2010 13:52 GMT

#1883

I'm going to ##vote SouthRawrea and DoubleLynch for now. I've barely had time to skim over this thread having been away from home and have to go out now as well.

I'd request people don't vote for me simply because I know this won't benefit the town, but I can understand if I'm a target due to suspicion or simply inactivity.

XeliN

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July 27 2010 01:00 GMT

#2767

Thanks for the PM bill, sorry my involvement is lacking this game. I ##vote SouthRawrea and Abstain for #2 Also ##Vote DoubleLynch

I'm not convinced on Bloody from what I've managed to read and I think it's a mistake lynching him so i'll go on principle.

XeliN

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July 28 2010 23:40 GMT

#2978

Oh what villainous webs we weave, to entice naivety into our midst and feast upon it. The dice is rolled, the hour shall strike for one brave solider blindly entering into the den of the beast. Yet justice doth spread itself too far, and the virtuous too oft find themselves stifled under it's harrowing wings. Flee, oh flee this tainted land, the light is swept away by dusk, blurring deceit and truth, entwined. The colour of our countenance shall cease it's divisive nature. Lo! for the mighty and weak alike shall become unified within this spectrum of transcendency. Our virtue shall glimmer out through eschatological verification, Who shall journey bravely with me out of this most turbulent sea? Would the marked come companioned? The Dice is rolled...

I'm a wee bit infested and very much looking forward to meeting one, or more of you, on this most auspicious of nights.

XeliN

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July 28 2010 23:50 GMT

#2982

Heh thanks, in all honesty I wrote it in about 5 mins altho I did steal "on this most auspicious of nights" from the V for Vendetta speech, he say's it before Voila'ing his way into alliterative splendor.

XeliN

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August 03 2010 08:33 GMT

#3519

This is delicious drama, dangerous yet delectable, a delicacy of divine denomination and yet dissatisfying. Drearily I dreamt of death and destruction between disparate duelists, damnation decisively dealt. Far down my sinking heart now dwells, depression deflecting delight with adamant daring. Does death not deserve a decree? Does it not demand discerning decision? Dependable direction now diseased, deceased and whose singular demise is most disconcerting. Hells Dining dictates decision so life's defection may be delivered to the deserved dweller. Damned be all who dare to dance with destiny.

+ Show Spoiler +

I wanted to read the night post, even woke up early, but instead I was forced to write loads of D words

XeliN

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August 04 2010 21:38 GMT

#3614

Yessssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!

Best mafia team I've ever been on, although only been on one other before. Protractinum and Pyrrholuxia where especially awesome simply on the ammount of effort and detail that went into so many of their posts.

I on the other hand was a blot of inactivity marring an otherwise brilliant team, but luck vindicated me abit in the suicide hit ^^

XeliN

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August 04 2010 22:31 GMT

#3648

much <3 siniquity, I owe you some medic protects.

XeliN

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August 04 2010 23:01 GMT

#3674

On August 05 2010 07:53 Protactinium wrote:
Oh yes, and thank you Bill for hosting this game.

This, whatever u might get moaned at the fact is you have to put alot of time and effort into running something like this and thanks alot for doing so.

I don't know why there wasn't a seperate thread for voting though, I'd pull my hair out if I was host having to check over every page scanning for bolded text ^^