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Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 08 2010 01:21 GMT
#59
/in

if there's still space?
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 08 2010 02:05 GMT
#62
w00t i made it in! Thanks BM!
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 15 2010 00:41 GMT
#111
ZOMG is this game ever gonna start :O
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 16 2010 00:36 GMT
#152
how many people we at now?

wanna start!
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 18 2010 09:20 GMT
#409
Hey guys, sorry for inactivity, been at the Boryeong Mud Festival!

Gonna try catch up
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 18 2010 09:27 GMT
#410
Cool, been looking over everything. Some interesting stuff happening for the first day. Gonna go over it a little more carefully before casting my vote. Want to see how some people defend themselves, and don't really just want to jump on a voting bandwagon.

Also, abstaining is kind of stupid. Will vote later tonight.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 19 2010 00:16 GMT
#488
##Vote: Hyperbola

Not really convinced by him, and there's not really any other clear choice for me right now.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 20 2010 04:44 GMT
#616
Hey man, congratulations, that's really exciting news

Wish you all the best

On point, I was also in agreement about the weirdness of Foolishness's post, but now he's dead.

Seems at the moment, mafia aren't making too many mistakes.

Not sure about the block of votes for Hyperbola, seems if it was a scum-instigated thing they could have easily spread it out more? Might have just been a bunch of townies jumping on the bandwagon. Although, I would guess there's a good chance there's one or two mafia in there, who saw an opportunity to jump on a townie vote.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 20 2010 23:51 GMT
#772
On July 20 2010 13:49 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 13:44 Subversion wrote:
Not sure about the block of votes for Hyperbola, seems if it was a scum-instigated thing they could have easily spread it out more? Might have just been a bunch of townies jumping on the bandwagon. Although, I would guess there's a good chance there's one or two mafia in there, who saw an opportunity to jump on a townie vote.


You speak of this voting block as though you weren't part of it... an important part too.


I voted for him much later than anyone else. I wasn't part of that big block that was referred to. He got a lot of early votes, and didn't really do much of a defense. There was very little to go on Day 1, as usual. I may have been a bit of a bandwagoner, but I didn't really think he did much to get himself out of the situation. I voted for him because there was noone else I really felt worth it, and I didn't really want to abstain.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 20 2010 23:58 GMT
#775
On July 20 2010 15:44 Protactinium wrote:
Probably not today, unless we can find two clearly delineated targets.

Ah, scrolling backward. With the whole Vet idea, let's not forget this:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2010 13:44 Subversion wrote:
Hey man, congratulations, that's really exciting news

Wish you all the best

On point, I was also in agreement about the weirdness of Foolishness's post, but now he's dead.

Seems at the moment, mafia aren't making too many mistakes.

Not sure about the block of votes for Hyperbola, seems if it was a scum-instigated thing they could have easily spread it out more? Might have just been a bunch of townies jumping on the bandwagon. Although, I would guess there's a good chance there's one or two mafia in there, who saw an opportunity to jump on a townie vote.

And don't forget he made the winning (or losing...) vote.


Still don't know what is so suspicious about the bolded sentence I was just saying that to basically say, I didn't see anyone that really looked suspicious, so I voted for the person everyone was voting for, who hadn't really defended himself.

Also, I'd like to add I didn't think I was casting the deciding vote, at the time I voted it was 7-4, so I thought my vote was pretty inconsequential. Although someone later posted after voting that there had been an error in counting?

The point I am making here is that I was a bit inactive at the start as I hadn't realised the game had started and was away for the weekend and I jumped on a bandwagon because there was noone else that seemed worth voting for.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 21 2010 00:09 GMT
#778
On July 21 2010 06:09 citi.zen wrote:
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On July 21 2010 05:56 DarthThienAn wrote:
On July 21 2010 05:51 Pandain wrote:
On July 21 2010 05:46 DarthThienAn wrote:

Actually, the mafia made a huge mistake - one of their hits failed, or they stacked their hits on Foolishness, a townie. A smart/good player, but only 1 townie nonetheless. The less people there are, the greater their voting power, it's stupid to stack on night 1. So to me, the statement IS false, but the reason why it's suspicious is that no one would ever genuinely say that -> mafia.



Haha, you're right about that mistake. However, I thought it had been determined that D3 was also hit but protected by a medic. So they didn't stack their hits, one of their hits simply failed. And the more important thing is why would no one say that? Heck, I might say that. "Hey the mafia are doing pretty good." Just to be sure when I'm voting, please explain more.

+ Show Spoiler +
If Subversion IS mafia, i'm so going to kill myself.


There's the possibility that d3 is a mafia faking taking a hit. It's low chance, but not 0% so I didn't leave it out.

Other than that, he's either a veteran and/or got medic protection.

What do you mean? My thoughts: Mafia FAILED last night strategically. Subversion was NOT being sarcastic/joking (look at his post). So why would he say that? Furthermore, even if the mafia HAD failed, saying that "mafia aren't making too many mistakes" is an extremely odd statement to make. Sure, it's not the best lead, but it's better than me, and I'm willing to let BB redeem himself if he happens to be a terrible townie. Subversion, on the other hand, doesn't seem to be on the path to correction at all.

I don't know... I am leaning with Pandain here. Subversion is a brand new player who does not know what to expect in these games. I can see him think... "How do you catch mafia? You watch for mistakes! Have we caught any? Nope. Ah - so thus far they aren't making too many mistakes."

I see no huge red flag. That said, he does not strike me as someone useful for the town so I am OK losing him if there are no better candidates.


THANK YOU fucking hell. I played in ONE NIGHT of harry potter mafia, I got temp banned for some stupid joke and got replaced

This is my first game ffs, I didn't realise what I said would make it "oh gg, he's mafia lol, what a fkn moron". I was trying to be useful

Seems like everyone is jumping on my voting bandwagon, I get what I said was stupid now, although I still don't really understand why its a fucknormous mistake. I was simply stating what to me, was a fairly obvious fact. It was kind of a justification for my vote to be honest. I didn't see any major mistakes, I didn't have anyone I felt REALLY deserved a vote, but I didn't wanna abstain and I thought Hyperbola was fucked anyway. So I read what he said and what others said, there didn't really seem like any better choice, so I just voted for him. Like I said, I didn't really think my vote mattered much anyway. I also had Bill up my ass saying I was gonna be modkilled if I didn't vote!

I really don't want to be voted out here, I don't want to roleclaim either, but I can if necessary??
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 21 2010 00:29 GMT
#784
Go back and look. There's a tally by someone saying 7-4, then after that my vote comes.

Someone stated afterwards that their was an error in counting somewhere, and there were 2 unvotes after that I didn't see.

My vote only looks suspicious due to really poor timing =/
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 21 2010 00:42 GMT
#787
On July 21 2010 09:31 LaXerCannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 09:29 Subversion wrote:
Go back and look. There's a tally by someone saying 7-4, then after that my vote comes.

Someone stated afterwards that their was an error in counting somewhere, and there were 2 unvotes after that I didn't see.

My vote only looks suspicious due to really poor timing =/


You don't vote for someone just because "they're fucked anyways". That's how bandwagons form. If we have a mafia starting a bandwagon, we _should_not_ just jump on it even if it's winning.


I've already defended this a million times now I told you, there was noone else that looked better, and I didn't want to abstain. Sure, maybe I should've just abstained, but everyone was saying abstaining is stupid and I'm new and I didn't want to fuck up. Lol, that's gone great so far

Also, why the fuck all the attention on my vote? Someone made a great post about how Hyperbola's fate was sealed in a block of 4 or 5 votes within an hour. Why is noone looking at those people? My vote came hours afterwards, when he was already circling the drain. It seems pretty clear to me that I'm just a n00b townie jumping on a bandwagon.

Why has everyone forgotten about the big group of people that STARTED the bandwagon in the 1st place?
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 21 2010 01:12 GMT
#789
Your two reasons contradict each other imo.

You're saying that Hyperbola was a mafia vote - but you're also saying the people who started the bandwagon with 5 votes are likely not mafia?

That makes no sense =/
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 21 2010 01:22 GMT
#793
On July 19 2010 05:38 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
Vote Count:
6] Hyperbola (Misder, Divinek, Pandain, Zeks, SiNiquity, bumatlarge)
3] YoungMinii (XeliN, Amber[LighT, Roffles)
2] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia, Pyrrhuloxia)
2] ketomai (citi.zen, lakrismamma)
2] Amber[LighT] (jayme, DarthThienAn),
1] citi.zen (rastaban)
1] BC (~opz~)
1] SiNiquity (Hyperbola)
1] Pandain (BC)
1] LaXerCannon (tree.hugger)
1] Infundibulum (youngminii)

5] abstain (LaXerCannon, tricode, SouthRawrea, Foolishness, Chaoser)

Not voting and in risk of modkill: 4] brownbear, Infundibulum, Subversion, ketomai


If you wish to replace into this game, PM me, and I will replace someone who I modkill.
I have class, so this will be the last vote count until I get back if I have time later.
the day ends in a little under 4 1/2 hours, at 9pm est/10kst


This is the message I saw.

Voting was 6-3 and I was threatening to be modkilled. I didn't have a lot of time to go over stuff, and I didn't want to be modkilled. So I read over some stuff as quickly as I could, and looked like everyone had it in for Hyperbola. I didn't want to rock the boat, abstain, or be modkilled, so I voted for him. End of story.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 21 2010 01:39 GMT
#798
Sure, its possible.

But if you truly think it was a mafia instigation, it would seem that those original voters were at least worth looking at.

I think my defense of my vote really does make sense, I don't know why I am the only one explaining myself here.

Is it REALLY just because I said "mafia aren't making too many mistakes'?
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 21 2010 02:00 GMT
#802
I realise all kinds of bullshittery was happening with vote counts etc.

But as I have stated now a million times, I was very rushed, didn't have time to look over everything properly, and was threatened with modkill.

So after perusing some of the backlog, I had to make a quick vote. I looked for the most recent official tally (which was 6-3) and voted for Hyperbola as it was who I was leaning towards anyway and my vote seemed inconsequential regardless.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 21 2010 03:47 GMT
#821
I initially wasn't very convinced about chaoser, but seems a little more suspicious now to me.

Still, not enough to win a vote. Still plenty of time
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 21 2010 04:09 GMT
#826
I really hope the people who voted earlier read my defense and unvote, or at least defend their vote in light of what I've said.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
July 21 2010 05:19 GMT
#829
Is kinda weird, considering you aren't convinced about any of the candidates.
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