TL Mafia XXVIII

On July 07 2010 09:51 Foolishness wrote:


Isn't it you only lose the bomb if the player was lynched and had a bomb on them? And then bombs are refunded if the target was killed at night.

On July 17 2010 07:44 citi.zen wrote:
How is it that these things always start on weekends?

21. DARTH THIEN AN

On July 17 2010 12:04 d3_crescentia wrote:

oh so is that how it goes

##Vote: DarthThienAn

On July 17 2010 12:10 d3_crescentia wrote:

genocide is your only option

On July 17 2010 12:18 citi.zen wrote:

Fake roleclaim medic on day 1. That should take care of it.

On July 17 2010 12:24 citi.zen wrote:
No problem.

## vote Darth

On July 18 2010 05:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
The game of Mafia has begun, and its time we get it going properly.

Some decent idea's have been laid out and we can consider them viable.

We have a few basics to remember in a setup like this. Trust no one. For all of the newer players. Stay out of PM land. If by god you go there, please only do so after the person your talking to has been confirmed. The chances for a minor slip up is enough to get you sniped if your blue, or give out information that you may have if you have it.

Secondly, we should set up potential lists of people to watch out for until they can be confirmed. I would start with

BloodyC0bbler
Foolishness
DTA
YoungMirii
Citizen

I believe us 5 should be under the most scrutiny at the beginning of this game.
Next we need medics to protect intelligently. Protect people you think will get hit. Analyze what people are saying then think if its something that would warrant mafia hitting them. IF so, put them on a list. Do this a few times and you have yourself a medic list to protect off of.

Next, day 1 lynch we have a few options
a) vote for the most inactive player
b) Vote for someone to RNG a player then vote on them
c) Vote for someone whos scummy (bad idea)

Now, with that all said and done, Lets get this party started.

On July 18 2010 05:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Pretty safe bet, you are kinda sketchy looking with your darthvader like lightning

On July 18 2010 17:34 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
My thoughts: hyperbola is prolly just a quick trigger townie; I'd think a mafia would be too skittish to CONTINUE with it, especially when voting is so thin at this point. Mafia wouldn't have to be desperate as of now. Townie or red, hyperbola is obviously desperate now, with so many votes against him. But the desperation started and caused the bandwagon (according to Pandain). When the hyperbola bandwagon started, voting was evened out so there wouldn't be a need for mafia to bandwagon on someone. Mafia don't really tend to bandwagon anyone day one, at least they don't start the first bandwagon. They might start a second bandwagon to save someone's ass. Doesn't really help prove anyone innocent but I think hyperbola's behavior could be townie and the voting against him could be townie too. In better words, neither action really stick out at me as suspicious but no one's exonerated. Maybe if a team of people desperately work to save him there could be something going on.

I'd like to hear why foolishness is so quiet this game. I've seen him in games as green and games as blue (DT). Both times he was really active and talkative and was somewhat of a leader with plans and so on. I've never seen him quiet and I've never seen him red. Could be an irl thing, could be something else.

Darth...'s plan to "maximize" deaths on Day 1 strikes me as poor thinking. I get that it gets us information, so this could certainly be a townie sentiment. However, I've been red in many past games and I often got pissed off at how much harder it could be to win with just one more townie alive at the end, due to a non-lynch or something similar.

At this point, my vote really is between Darth and hyperbola because it seems too late to rally the town anywhere else. Hyperbola strikes me as green running mouth. The reactions to that at least give the town something, even if he's red. Darth's hanging back and saying something that could be a subtle red move or a legitimate townie move.

Yeah I double checked his other posts, and everything else is Darth clown spamming. As someone nicely put it: he's playing like Chezinu. So I can't be made to feel guilty about voting for him.

##unvote
##vote DarthTheinAn

On July 19 2010 04:53 tree.hugger wrote:

Essentially. Voting lists are one of the best ways to catch mafia. They spread out across them in predictable patterns, and once you catch one mafia, you can gain a ton of information by looking at the voting lists. It's much better than post analysis, which is always touch and go. If you give people an out by establishing an abstain bandwagon, then you're just handcuffing the town.

And you may still be convinced that your strategy is the right one, but it's obviously not going to happen, and it's time you dropped the issue, so the town can move on. Wasting space, and distracting people from the task at hand is counter productive for obvious reasons.



That's a fourth alternative. Also, for everyone's reference, this is a vote moved from Subversion.

So we have
Hyperbola (5)
Darth (3)
youngminii (4)
Ketomai (2)

I believe BrownBear, Subversion, and Ketomai have not yet voted.

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At this point, I think people who have not voted for one of these four people (and in particular, the first three) should reconsider their votes, and select one of these players to lynch. Optimally we'll have three lists, and everyone on one of those lists, which should make mafia spotting a little easier. Again, I'd like to push a lynch on Darth. He's smart, and he knows he's not under the cosh yet. Hyperbola and youngminii have tried to defend themselves, but Darth hasn't lifted a finger, which I think it smart. If you're winning, leave well enough alone. But I'd like to punish him for it, and I encourage others to join.

On July 19 2010 00:53 Amber[LighT] wrote:
##vote: abstain.

Haven't read the thread and won't ve able to
Until later

On July 19 2010 06:00 d3_crescentia wrote:

Hey guess what - people can be as "helpful" as they want so long as they themselves aren't being targeted. Someone can run the whole active townie gig for an entire game and still be scum so long as they lead the rest of the town in the "right direction" by virtue of their calm-and-collected persona. Some scum will play more actively to maintain the appearance of a model citizen. You've done it; I've done it; everyone's done it (that is, if they've played as mafia more than once). "Laying low" is just a playstyle and not an indication of mafia.

But hey, if you wanna lynch me, let's get this ball rolling. The way I see it you stand to lose much more than I do.

The people we should be trying to pin down and confirm should be our most active, most valued posters. I know nothing about youngminii but that s/he did excellently in a previous game, and so we should keep an eye out. I find it interesting that BC's earlier list did NOT include infundibilum, and I'm wondering what THAT's about. I'm NOT suspicious of Foolishness because usually he would have checked in at this point with some abrasive comment or other.

On July 19 2010 07:12 citi.zen wrote:

There are no death posts or coroners in this set-up. Roles are revealed by the mod.