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ElyAs
Profile Joined December 2009
France205 Posts
June 29 2010 20:18 GMT
#76
Just died in the Harry Potter game. Need experience to become a better player. Sign me up. :3
ElyAs
Profile Joined December 2009
France205 Posts
July 01 2010 07:54 GMT
#314
Wow, sorry about being in europe and needing to sleep at night.

Gonna read all of this before saying more.
ElyAs
Profile Joined December 2009
France205 Posts
July 01 2010 09:08 GMT
#330
Okay, I want to talk about a very important role that I didn't see anyone talk about in depth.

How is the coroner going to use his ability ?

I do believe he needs to use it when we kill someone we are almost sure to be the Godfather. However it shouldn't be used too early as it gives a damn lot of information.
I think if we manage to catch the Godfather before day 3 we are in a good situation and day 3 would be a nice time for the coroner to use his ability if we think the godfather has been caught. This way we know if we are safe (he is killed, 3 mafia+ traitor max) or if we are in trouble. Else if we don't have certainties, do we want to wait and risk losing the coroner or do we ask him to use his ability mid-game to be sure ?
I do agree that our first goal is to kill the Godfather but I want to add that we need to make sure that it's really him.

What are your thoughts about that ?
ElyAs
Profile Joined December 2009
France205 Posts
July 01 2010 15:36 GMT
#357
On July 01 2010 18:31 Korynne wrote:
Doesn't really matter ElyAs, just pretend we didn't kill the GF and after a couple nights if KP doesn't really go up we're kind of okay. I would say one coroner check after 3-5 days?




Yeah, I agree on that for now. Things can change between today and day 3 so we'll have a choice to make, whether we ask the coroner to do its job or to wait.

Moving on, the fact that we have 100% reliable DT checks is huge, but we might want to think about a plan to avoid DT check overlapping (something like "check the guy above you the 1st night then climb up the list and if you find a DT, start again with the guy below.")

Plus, in theory, the DT should only reveal himself if he finds the Godfather. But if mafia has a KP of 3, is it worthwhile to pinpoint a mafia to roleblock him and gain time for the DTs to do their job ? I believe if Mafia KP reaches 3 there will be less chances of town still having a roleblocker, a jailkeeper and a DT at the same time so we might want to think about this kind of scenario...
ElyAs
Profile Joined December 2009
France205 Posts
July 01 2010 16:15 GMT
#366
On July 02 2010 01:02 youngminii wrote:
So if a DT checks someone that gets recruited on the same night, it's pretty much a wasted check?
:O



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You have the ability to make night investigations. Once per night, starting on Night 2, you may ask for the role of any player. I will PM you the results at the end of the night (the results will reflect that night’s recruitment).


No, the DT will see mafia so it's not wasted.

I don't agree with your plan Korynne, but only on the DT check. I think we have more than one DT and if they both check the guy we've voted for, we lose in efficiency.
The godfather will try to blend in the town so if he is a good player it's gonna be quite hard to find him on scumtells.

That is why I want to defend a DT check plan like the one I proposed earlier. It seems random, but it maximises the efficiency of our DTs.
ElyAs
Profile Joined December 2009
France205 Posts
July 01 2010 19:14 GMT
#401
On July 02 2010 03:48 Korynne wrote:
Oh also, voting for ElyAs in the other thread because he's still inactive.



On July 02 2010 01:22 Korynne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2010 01:15 ElyAs wrote:
On July 02 2010 01:02 youngminii wrote:
So if a DT checks someone that gets recruited on the same night, it's pretty much a wasted check?
:O



Detective
You have the ability to make night investigations. Once per night, starting on Night 2, you may ask for the role of any player. I will PM you the results at the end of the night (the results will reflect that night’s recruitment).


No, the DT will see mafia so it's not wasted.

I don't agree with your plan Korynne, but only on the DT check. I think we have more than one DT and if they both check the guy we've voted for, we lose in efficiency.
The godfather will try to blend in the town so if he is a good player it's gonna be quite hard to find him on scumtells.

That is why I want to defend a DT check plan like the one I proposed earlier. It seems random, but it maximises the efficiency of our DTs.


You bring up a valid point. I think if a dream catcher gets DT, he should check whomever he wants until the first DT dies. Same with dream catcher getting jailkeeper. But I think he shouldn't roleblock randomly because that screws up the lynch thing.

I don't think we'll get two DTs from the start... The thing is, we want to be able to know for sure if someone isn't GF, so we move on to lesser suspects. So I think that might be more important than making sure DTs don't overlap. Otherwise we might have suspected the GF, our new system would not have the DT checking that guy, and then we'd move on with our lives as if that guy was checked and not the GF.


Sorry ? You respond to me and you say I am inactive ? What is this I don't even

On topic, I think the one proposing the plan should be checked. Most of the time it's a good way to stay under the radar. And at least if we know you are not the GF, we know you weren't trying to break the game in your favor.

So :

##GF : Korynne
ElyAs
Profile Joined December 2009
France205 Posts
July 02 2010 22:45 GMT
#593
I'm sorry and I want to explain myself.

First, I'm okay with you lynching me. It's a mislynch, but well, better me than a blue role.

Why ? Because today I couldn't be in front of my computer until now. The same will happen this week-end because I'm having some trouble I didn't expect.

Sorry for wanting to participate in this game and not being able to do it (especially for the host, I'm feeling pretty bad about it tbh.) Next time I'll make sure I can be active in a mafia game before signing up.

going to vote for a blank mainly to avoid modkill. (but if you want to modkill me, Darth, I think its legitimate)

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