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On June 22 2010 12:41 bumatlarge wrote:
Of that list, the only people I dont know are storm and durak, im very certain the others are very active
On June 22 2010 12:41 bumatlarge wrote:
Of that list, the only people I dont know are storm and durak, im very certain the others are very active
You weren't too active yourself, but you were mafia. Brownbear had spurts of activity, then cut off randomly. LaXercannon and Zyrre were somewhat active, if I remember correctly they made some decent posts. Moocow was killed in a most amusing fashion early on, so not sure what to say about him. Here is our (most recent) game if someone who wasn't in it cares to evaluate: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=127781
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@chezinu
why do you want to reveal radfield/korynne if (by your recent posts) you seem to think that they are more likely a blue role? I cannot see that as beneficial for the town or you.
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On June 23 2010 05:43 LaXerCannon wrote:
For the possible DT: I think checking the teams of three would be a good start as one of them flipping red would mean the rest of the team flipping red (unless I've misinterpreted the rules)
not to say don't check us, but this logic is wrong. I would think it to be easier to read three people rather than just two.
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On June 23 2010 06:14 MooCow wrote:
@Jspazz can you post what you translated that made you believe that BM/chez is blue?
yeah we're too lazy to do translate it ourselves
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I think I need another day of argument between L/Ace/team8 and such to see what I think of them. As far as I can tell BM/chez are barely helping the town, and team 7 has provided the least content. I'm not sure whether we should lynch the team that spams or the quiet team. I think that if team 7 was mafia then they would at least make some attempt to appear active, but that is not the case. Going to put my vote on team 2 for now.
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On June 24 2010 01:06 YellowInk wrote:
Is there enough time left to pressure team 9 into doing the same?
nope 
give me some time to read through all that was posted last night
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so this is where the votes stand now:
+ Show Spoiler +Votes for Team 2 (15)
Ace (Team 4)
meeple (Team 7)
BrownBear (Team 8)
johnnyspazz (Team 8)
DCLXVI (Team 9)
Nikon (Team 7)
Zyrre (Team 7)
Votes for Team 3 (6)
YellowInk (Team 5)
Bill Murray (Team 2)
Votes for Team 7 (13)
Chezinu (Team 2)
LaXerCannon (Team 3)
Divinek (Team 9)
Durak (Team 5)
stormtemplar (Team 8)
Votes for Team 8 (6)
L (Team 6)
bumatlarge (Team 3)
Votes for Team 9 (3)
DarthThienAn (Team 4)
Ace has been suspicious of Teams 2 and and less so 6
Stormtemplar has split from his team and voted for team 7, but the rest of team 8 is still on BM/chez
Team 7 is rationally voting for team 2 now since anything else would lose them the vote
my team is split, and I think moocow left the game
New crusade against team 3 by yellow and BM (also known as suicide for BM). Some suspicions presented in the thread.
Now that the anti-inactivity bandwagon against team 7 has ended it would be good to look at who stayed on and who recently joined for what reasons as well as who left for what reasons.
L had some suspicions on team 8 early on, but I have no idea why bum just switched
I think that Darth just wants team 9 to post more.
I can't wait to see who gets lynched, since it will give us some great insight on the rest of the teams. Now that BM has started to post some decent arguments (well at least better than before) I am not sure if hanging him would be the right option. I don't say this because I think that he is less likely to be mafia, I just think that we would get more information out of lynching another team, say team 3 or maybe 8. Bum's recent posting and voting has me confused and a little more suspicious so I'd rather team 3 than 8 get lynched, but I'm not certain.
Time for work, will probably get back in time to change my vote if need be.
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@radfield
I am not sure why my last post "screams mafia" since you didn't bother to elaborate, but sure...
Yes we have been inactive and that is our fault, I just wanted to see where day 1 went and see who would be lynched. Apparently that only works for experienced players. We posted slightly less content than team 1 who is quiet all day, then they accuse us so that they look active.
One question to all of you: What will you gain by lynching a quiet noob team? We have not made many opinions or sided with anyone. Yes that can sound scummy, but we would have to be obscenely stupid to do that if we were mafia. I would expect mafia teams to accuse other teams and throw around suspicion especially if they are in the spotlight. If you lynch us then you get absolutely no information when we flip green. Maybe you can go after team 1, but I think they'll just hide behind the 'lynch the inactive' excuse. I thought the point of the day 1 lynch was to find the role of a team that had supporters and suspicions on people, but apparently I am wrong.
Now we must become one of those wishy washy teams that have been moving their vote to keep themselves out of danger (2,7)
-flamewheel
will we still get 1/3 of a vote even though moocow opted to take himself out of the game?
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wait quick rules question: if it is 15-15 for the votes, but team 2 got to 15 before team 9, who dies?
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On June 24 2010 11:32 johnnyspazz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2010 11:15 Korynne wrote:
Well BM, I can't save you, I was already voting for the tied team. So the best I could do at that point was to make sure nobody pulls anything shifty at the last minute.
It's like, if we needed majority to lynch and voting was tied, I would vote switch just to make sure lynching happened. I mean, this case it wasn't like no lynch was going to happen but I still didn't like that uncertainty hanging around.
Also like, team 9 has been posting more, and people have expressed wanting to leave them around for longer, especially since they're relatively new. You and Chez spam up the thread like no other so like, meh, s'okay to see you go. your last minute vote seems awfully fishy to me. you say you voted to no one pulls anything shifty at the last minute but i would consider your vote pretty darn shifty. what "uncertainty" did you not like? perhaps you wanted to guarantee the death of team 2 because you were protecting your mafia teammates and you knew team 2 would flip green? haha i'm probably over thinking this 
Lol I was going to bring this up but it saved me... which makes my team look even worse. Korynee protected us against chez coming back in time to sway the vote, but didn't do much else. This means that Korynee wanted to save my team or kill BM/chez, and since she(?) wanted BM/Chez around for another day, that puts it more likely on saving me/divinek. The other option is that Korynee wanted to prevent any successful vote swings by other teams. This would not be a smart move for the town since a last minute vote swing would cast the vote changer under heavy suspicion and the saved team under some suspicion too. The town would want to see a vote swing happen for that. If Korynee is mafia then a mafia would not want to see a vote swing because my team is mafia... I don't like where this is going. Korynee's action puts both of us under suspicion and I suggest the town think about lynching kory/rad to see if my team is red or not.
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On June 24 2010 11:45 Korynne wrote:
Like honestly, if I was mafia:
1) BM/Chez innocent, team 9 innocent: switching last minute makes no sense whoever dies means the same. If BM/Chez live it's probably better because everyone hates them whereas team 9 looks like they're making a comeback.
2)BM/Chez innocent, team 9 mafia: If I knew team 9 was my mafia buddies then Radfield pushing so hard to get them lynched would've been a really bad idea when so many other people supported lynching Chez/BM or bumcannon. Me voting for them before leaving for dinner not knowing when I'd come back would also be rather ballsy.
DCLXVI, I don't like how you're pushing to lynch us rather than you. So far we have not been under suspicion, and you guys have, not to mention Radfield basically pushed for your lynch all along. I also don't like how you're hinting at the fact that if we get lynched and we turn out green someone that implies that you guys are more green.
Well I don't understand why you would prevent a vote switch as a townie or a mafia unless you want to put more suspicion on us (as well as yourself). As I pointed out someone vote switching would only help the town in the long run, and you tried to prevent that? I think I implied that it is likely that we are the same alignment from a town perspective, please point out where I am wrong with that logic. Since I know that I am town and Radfield did nearly kill us, that makes me think that you are mafia and you wanted the town to think that we are the same alignment. Therefore if the town lynches us next and we show up green, then you could look very pro-town. That is why I want you lynched first, since you did the actions that make both of us look scummy.
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Either I didn't word my posts correctly or you just misunderstood, but I don't believe that we are the same alignment. I said that you saving T9 makes it look like we are both scum. If you are townie then you just made a pointless switch. The town would want to see a vote switch because yes, it would heavily implicate a team. No townie team in their right mind would do that. Your team pushed to get T9 killed by started up the bandwagon. You also stated that you would like to see BM/Chez around for another day. Then you decide to prevent chez from saving his team while saving mine in the process. How is this beneficial for the town at all?
You just created chaos in the town by doing a pointless vote switch - why? Why would a town team try to create chaos for no change in the outcome?
Lynching you would not prove that t9 is green, I just think that you are red. You stir up commotion for no apparent reason while casting suspicion on my team.
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ok question to all the experienced players:
is it now time for me to claim I was "just fishing" to see who would jump on with my ridiculous scheme and now start pointing fingers at L?
Hope you all are happy that I started talking
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On June 26 2010 01:53 BrownBear wrote:
Team 9: Here's the team I'm now a little concerned about. Divinek had a LOT of posts day 1, but very little content to them, and it looked more like he was trying to establish himself as an active player, WITHOUT actually adding anything to the town discussion. That's disturbing to me. DCLXVI I have barely seen at all, except for a few posts targeting Korynne... He wanted her lynched, and she wanted him lynched. Now she is dead. Unlike L, I don't think Team 9 would have the experience to hold back on killing someone they'd had a public argument in the thread with...
It's a little shaky, but I think Team 9 looks the most suspicious to me right now.
Even if you were to assume that we were dumb enough to do that, you would also have to assume that the mafia team we are paired with is stupid enough to go along with that...
If you go by the reasoning that team 4 and L are smart enough to hold back from lynching each other, then it is reasonable that one of them is mafia. The mafia would probably rather hit one of the two major townie teams arguing than the two inactive and suspected teams. If neither team 4 or 6 were mafia, then surely the mafia would want the town jump on the one not killed.
I don't suspect L right now because Caller dropped out and L argued against team1(rad/kory),4 recently, sort of supporting the ever scummy team 9.
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On June 26 2010 03:27 Nikon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2010 02:22 DCLXVI wrote:
I don't suspect L right now because Caller dropped out and L argued against team1(rad/kory),4 recently, sort of supporting the ever scummy team 9.
Unless he just got them out of the way so they won't argue with his posts later on. I don't know why supporting a scummy team would be a good thing in your book.
Did you read my entire post? I said that on the assumption of a certain level of playing from L, that he would not do something as obvious as kill a team he was arguing with.
To my point of view it looks good for him to support my team because I don't think a mafia team would openly support a scummy looking townie team.
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On June 27 2010 06:44 Nikon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2010 04:34 BrownBear wrote:
Since Nikon doesn't think my posts are worth reading, apparently, I'm going to ask one more time, and he has until his next post to answer me before I change my vote to him.
Nikon - please explain exactly where I can't distinguish between 1 and 2. You really have to answer people's questions if you don't want to appear scummy. Show nested quote +On June 26 2010 05:04 BrownBear wrote:
Even if you were to assume that we were dumb enough to do that, you would also have to assume that the mafia team we are paired with is stupid enough to go along with that...
If you go by the reasoning that team 4 and L are smart enough to hold back from lynching each other, then it is reasonable that one of them is mafia. The mafia would probably rather hit one of the two major townie teams arguing than the two inactive and suspected teams. If neither team 4 or 6 were mafia, then surely the mafia would want the town jump on the one not killed.
I don't suspect L right now because Caller dropped out and L argued against team1(rad/kory),4 recently, sort of supporting the ever scummy team 9.
It was about this snippet - how is ragekilling team 2 even remotely relevant when they got lynched? I hope you guys are online right now, there's loads of fun to be had.
LOL I wrote that not BB (even if - scummy team 9)
Catching up on the thread nowish post more late, just wanted to point out this obvious JEEP if thats what you call it
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On June 27 2010 07:14 DarthThienAn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2010 07:11 Nikon wrote:On June 27 2010 07:05 DarthThienAn wrote:
Everyone that posted on the last page - LaXer, Nikon, BB, DCLXVI - what exactly are you talking/arguing about, and what's your point? I don't know, if Laxer bothered to provide a solid arguement, we might've had a point. So your point is? That LaXer doesn't have a point? And you think he accused you of being mafia?
nah, i think it is that nikon said the BB mixed up teams 1 and two. BB asked how and did not think that nikon responded. Nikon misquoted and provided my text instead of BB and I pointed that out. Neither Laxer nor Nikon are really providing an argument against each other as far as I can see.
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I want to see L and ace argue for another day. I would love to see them both be mafia, but I doubt it. putting my vote on 7 for now for inactivity. Bad reason, but w/e.
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wow I didn't realize throwing my vote on an inactive team to make sure I wouldn't get modkilled would look so scummy. I suppose I should have said that, but you guys seem to love last minute bandwagoning T9...
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So I have to love how Darth innocuously drops the "what do you think of this" and then waits to see everyone's opinion before siding with the majority.
Has team 7 even voted yet? are they going to get modkilled and we lose if we mislynch?(and they are not mafia)
My post was stupid because I didn't clarify and was in a rush, but now I have to vote for 6 or 7 to stay alive. I suppose it is partly my fault for the hasty post, but you guys do overreact quite a bit.
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