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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-09 03:20:39
June 02 2010 05:04 GMT
#7
I AM THE GODFATHER.

RESERVED FOR SOMETHING YEAHHHHH.

...Wait?
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 02 2010 18:56 GMT
#25
Also hmm.

I don't know.

Hey it's raining.

Oh god Chez.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 02 2010 19:50 GMT
#29
On June 03 2010 04:16 Korynne wrote:
I don't get it. xD

It was just us sticking out to the end with Foolishness. =P (Hopefully he'll play too? xP)

Foolishness mafia.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 03 2010 21:59 GMT
#46
I just realized there was a Day Vigi :3
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 04 2010 23:58 GMT
#71
On June 04 2010 12:39 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2010 11:44 Incognito wrote:
On June 04 2010 07:40 Radfield wrote:
On June 04 2010 06:59 flamewheel wrote:
I just realized there was a Day Vigi :3



maybe... not necessarily... But I lets hope so. It's just so entertaining.

I really hope I get Veteran, I promise to get some use out of it. Probably Night 1.... : )


How bout I make you a Veteran and I give mafia aligned dayvig to someone who has a grudge against you?


or give mafia a night kill. stack kills, ezpz. lolol.


flame's playing in this game. I want to play with cute flame :[.

=[=[=[

>.>

I can't say that I'm a good player. That would be a lie and we don't lie in this sub-forum!
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 05 2010 00:31 GMT
#74
On June 05 2010 09:03 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2010 08:58 flamewheel wrote:
On June 04 2010 12:39 DarthThienAn wrote:
On June 04 2010 11:44 Incognito wrote:
On June 04 2010 07:40 Radfield wrote:
On June 04 2010 06:59 flamewheel wrote:
I just realized there was a Day Vigi :3



maybe... not necessarily... But I lets hope so. It's just so entertaining.

I really hope I get Veteran, I promise to get some use out of it. Probably Night 1.... : )


How bout I make you a Veteran and I give mafia aligned dayvig to someone who has a grudge against you?


or give mafia a night kill. stack kills, ezpz. lolol.


flame's playing in this game. I want to play with cute flame :[.

=[=[=[

>.>

I can't say that I'm a good player. That would be a lie and we don't lie in this sub-forum!


It doesn't matter cuz ur so cute :3.

That may be true...
Or it may not be...
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 06 2010 01:46 GMT
#82
Awesome.

I've... graduated.

Should have more time now.

I think.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 08 2010 04:17 GMT
#93
On June 08 2010 12:34 Incognito wrote:
^You can only play in one game at once.

Anyway, I'm going to wait one more day till signups close. The game will start on Wednesday.

Wait what with only 15?
Dead players from my game can play right?
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 09 2010 03:08 GMT
#104
Incognitooooooooooooo!
I got you another one :3

(Love me)
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 09 2010 03:13 GMT
#108
On June 09 2010 12:12 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2010 12:08 flamewheel wrote:
Incognitooooooooooooo!
I got you another one :3

(Love me)


hey you asshole you better not have told mafia to kill me ! :D

That would go against some vaguely defined ethical code :3
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 09 2010 03:35 GMT
#110
:3

I propose that Incognito keep a cute counter in this game as well!
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 09 2010 03:51 GMT
#113
On June 09 2010 12:44 Foolishness wrote:
So just to be clear, PMing is allowed in this game yeah?

Edit: Can we also get an explanation of all the Detective/Medic variants and such?

Normal: Saves as usual. Everybody's favourite paramedic.
Weak: Dies if he/she protects anti-town player.
Paranoid: Protects and roleblocks target.
Naive: Protection is ineffective.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 09 2010 07:40 GMT
#119
Rofl oops Ace?
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 09 2010 21:51 GMT
#129
Whoops I'm so confused.
Also darn.

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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 09 2010 22:19 GMT
#139
On June 10 2010 07:14 Radfield wrote:
OK, lets talk balance for a sec.

With 4 mafia vs 13 town aligned, and given that the mafia might have both a roleblocker and godfather, I would guess that we have a decent number of blue roles in the game. My guess at the moment would be at least 5 blue roles, plus possibly a town aligned day vig?

I'm thinking 1 cop, 1 medic, 1 watcher/tracker, 1 vet and 1 vig/mad hatter. Also likely 1 Miller and the Day Vig. That leaves 6 townies(7 with the miller).

Does this seems likely to other people? Thoughts?

I'm putting out my thoughts on balance. Will compare in a second.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 09 2010 22:20 GMT
#141
Hmm...
Semi-open setups are tricky, since we know what roles there can be but not the number. However, since there is a given number of mafia we should be able to roughly estimate what kind of blue powers (and/or extraneous mafia powers) there are in the game.

17 people and four mafia, so the mafia comprise 23.5% of the town's population. Normally in Incognito's games, the mafia comprise a flat 20% of the total population and blue roles are adjusted based on that, and given the fact that there are more varied roles than in these more 'standard' games, I'd assume we'd have some of those. Let's see...

Incognito likes Mad Hatters. I can't remember if that is his or Qatol's (perhaps both?) favourite role, but most likely there will be one Hatter.

Obviously, it'd be ludicrous to say that there isn't a medic, though the question is whether or not there's one medic or two. I'm split between the numbers, since either could work... A self-saving medic is way more powerful, and that would mean there would probably only be one medic. However, Incognito has ninja'ed in the fact that medics cannot save themselves, so two medics is probable.

Between the Watcher/Stalker and DT there's more likely to be a DT. Watchers and Stalkers are cute roles, and I'd count them as half a blue role. There'll probably be one of either.

There is a Veteran, most likely. Since it is a passive blue role, I'd count it as a half.

Because you can't have too many blue roles without balancing Mafia powers as well...
There will probably be a Mafia-aligned Day vigilante, and perhaps a town-aligned one. If there are two medics (or two of anything) I'd find it more likely that there'd be a roleblocker. Probably to throw off the DT, there will be one, at most but probably not, two Millers.

Of course, this is all conjectural based on how I would potentially balance a game.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 09 2010 23:06 GMT
#150
Rofl Qatol is blue.
I say a few hours, Incognito.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 09 2010 23:08 GMT
#151
I'll be back in a few hours, going to do some eating and studying.

Also I'll just throw it out there that I'm all for lynching an inactive at the end of this 48-hour day, since it's very unlikely that a mafia member will slip up. Way more often (and by way more often I mean every case I've seen) a bandwagoned first lynch is just a townie that made a mistake and the mafia jumped him.

Also if an inactive dies by first lynch, I request him to be struck by lightning Incognito.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 10 2010 01:35 GMT
#164
L, correct me if I'm wrong but it says you are aligned with either Town or Mafia, not a third party.
Oh, just realized that Mafia KP was one (forgot about this, automatically assumed #/2 rounded up).
Which means yeah, only one medic.

I'm for roleclaiming since it's lulz.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
June 10 2010 01:38 GMT
#166
On June 10 2010 09:55 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2010 09:45 Radfield wrote:
On June 10 2010 08:14 Vivi57 wrote:
This should be fun.

Also, is lynching an inactive really best? We've done that since forever and people are so used to the strategy that I don't think it'll give us as much in the way of vote lists and voting patterns to analyze.

I say that we make everyone talk then analyze behavior and if someone appears scummy, we shouldn't insta go for the inactive.


I think I agree with this. Usually I'm a champion of inactive lynching, but theoretically in this set up there should not be anyone blatantly inactive. I mean, the invites were sent out solely based on activity. If we're having a problem with activity, by all means, but for now lets try to analyze.

Face the facts, mafia who try to coast by are lame, mafia who play hardcore are sweet. Like Incognito in Mafia XXII; that was well done.



Despite what I said earlier about being skeptical that people could be forced out of inactivity... we might be hard pressed to find a true inactive. In the short time that this game has been open, there's only 6 people that haven't posted.

6. Chezinu
7. citi.zen
8. Foolishness
10. RebirthOfLeGend
14. johnnyspazz
15. LuDwig-

And of these, I expect that they will show up soon.

If it continues like this, and we get tons of active people and lots of posts to analyze then it might very well be more advantageous to skip the inactive lynch.

Being inactive doesn't just quantify people who don't post. There are people who will post nothing or go on generalities, and thus can still be considered non-contributers. Also if there are a ton of posts, a townsperson is just as likely (maybe more so) to slip up than a mafia member, though we'll see. Game's technically only 37 minutes old.
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