Voting an inactive seems the best option as someone else pointed out. Keep the most active playing, makes a more entertaining game.

Since I'm new at Mafia games (at least online), I've got a question.

What if the inactives play decisive roles? It kind of fucks up the balance right? Any previous experience here, where inactives left too little or too mania Mafia?

edit: It still seems best to vote an inactive, big list to choose from.

for now I'll pick RaGe since I can then brag on how I got him killed on IRC, but I'm open to suggestions!

IntoTheWow

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April 18 2010 20:46 GMT

#391

On April 19 2010 05:42 Ace wrote:
If you're inactive it doesn't matter if you have a good role. If you are inactive when the time comes to make a major contribution people won't listen because you haven't been doing much most of the game. Players that try to coast end up costing the town as we can currently see by activity levels.

I see. That answers most of it.

What about previous experience, did you ever get too little townies because of inactivity?

On April 19 2010 05:42 flamewheel91 wrote:

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Remember that you can't edit your posts. If you need to correct something, just post again (mafia forum is apparently where it is okay to double post ) ITW, for voting please visit this thread and vote in the fashion ##Vote [playername]

Oops, I even read the rules, but somehow it slipped my mind. Old habits die hard.

IntoTheWow

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April 18 2010 20:58 GMT

#397

On April 19 2010 05:50 Ace wrote:
What do you mean by too little townies?

Let say the game starts, you have 30 townies, 8 mafia and other roles.

If you get 10 inactive people and all of them or 9 or 8 are townies, then you got yourself 20 townies vs 8 mafia (+ others). So the game shifts into the direction of the mafia since they have less things to go on, they have to get more suspicious of everyone and they have less time until they are all killed (unless I'm missing something).

IntoTheWow

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April 18 2010 21:57 GMT

#426

I raise. We lynch you today, then if you were right, we lynch nai.protoss lol

IntoTheWow

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April 18 2010 22:07 GMT

#437

Yeah, the more I read, the more Caller seems to keep his calm, while Ace jumps on him more and more. I don't know what to do now. I originally voted Caller just cause of inactivity, but as he's posting now, I thinkk I'm going to change my vote.

IntoTheWow

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April 19 2010 02:46 GMT

#516

Right now it seems like anyone making a plan is getting lynched. We should definitely learn a lesson from this : p

As Radfield said, we should make a plan right now and set a basis not on who to vote, but how to. Based on what, or with what in mind.

IntoTheWow

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April 19 2010 03:06 GMT

#520

No, on the contrary, I'm just saying everyone is trying to disband any plan brought up.

On the other hand, I don't know if I missed some posts, but some people questioned stuff about your plan and you ignored their posts (AcrossFiveJulys I think was one). Care to explain?

I'm all in for following a strategy, at least early on when we have nothing to work on, but we need to be consensus, not just ideas thrown around.

To be honest I don't think we can use Assassins to our advantage, unless not early on. When they start rolling with role checks and kills maybe we can read them better.

My idea right now is that we should vote an inactive, to keep the game more fun of course, but also because it's safer. You might end up killing an inactive townie, but at the same time you could kill an inactive mafia OR a mafia playing it quiet and disguising himself as an inactive. If you are a townie, you should be definitely be joining the discussion.

The question of course is what inactive to lynch. I picked Caller initially, because he knew the game rules about modkill and everything, but he decided to stay quiet. He's talking now (after getting a good number of votes, don't know what to make on that yet), so I'm going to change my vote probably to follow the strategy I think works best for now.

From the rest of the list of inactives I don't know how many of the others played before since this is my first time at TL Mafia.

Ok, the ball is rolling, anyone has any ideas? previous game information on who on the list should be active but isn't?

IntoTheWow

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April 19 2010 03:06 GMT

#521

On April 19 2010 12:02 Jugan wrote:

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yay <3 incognito.

I think the plan should be to lynch that KF91 guy.

Reason?

IntoTheWow

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April 19 2010 03:21 GMT

#524

Hard to take you seriously

IntoTheWow

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April 19 2010 03:26 GMT

#526

I agree as I said in my post in the previous page (that maybe got lost there :p)

Anyone has been checking who the inactives are as of now?

IntoTheWow

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April 19 2010 03:55 GMT

#530

Ok I went throught the list of players and searched this thread for posts by them. I no particular order, people who make no posts, or only one liners in it:

KF91 (barely posted, always 1 or 2 lines)

RebirthOfLegend

Jugan (all 1 liners)

Scaramanga (couple of 1 liners, pre-game)

RaGe (only sign up post)

[NyC]HoBbes (2 posts, with 1-3 lines)

Fulgrim (1 post, 2 lines)

JadeFist

krndandaman

nbtnbt5 (only 1 post asking how get info on day 1)

Incognito (just subbed in, said he would make a big post)

love1another (only 1 or 2 posts, and he already voted)

jpak (only 1 post: "see you on day 1" when it was already day 1)

motbob (only 2 posts, 1-2 lines)

Ok, so I think picking one of these guys is the best course. If they have any previous server experienced, or were active in other parts of the forums but missed this, anything that's making them be quiet, etc.

IntoTheWow

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April 19 2010 04:36 GMT

#536

Cute, but this is the longest post you have made in all the thread. Trolling around, having a foul mouth, and writting stuff no one gets here and there doesn't contribute at all. If you are going to bash on my work, then you might as well show me where's it's bad or provide something better yourself.

IntoTheWow

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April 19 2010 04:55 GMT

#547

I considered that option of course. If anything my call for inactives can make those people 'getting the feel' to post more, which is a good thing. No communication = town loses. Not like they are going to get lynched actually, at least that's what you said.

IntoTheWow

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April 19 2010 05:02 GMT

#551

Well, that's why beside listing inactives I also wrote more or less what they posted. I opened the thread on "all" pages and CTRL+F every nickname on the player list.

Yours came out to be mostly 1-2 liners, without actually saying nothing in most of them, hence why you were on the list.

About your attitude, it was not me who pointed it out, but a mod, you can ask them for an apology.

IntoTheWow

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April 19 2010 05:28 GMT

#563

On April 19 2010 14:12 Jugan wrote:
Your posting and change of story seems extremely suspicious, and you have now been put #1 on my suspect list.

On April 19 2010 10:11 Jugan wrote:

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OH NOES!!! ANYTHING BUT THAT!!1!111!1!!!ONE!!11!

IntoTheWow

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April 19 2010 05:45 GMT

#577

On April 19 2010 14:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

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If you compare his start to the game (one liners) to now, you would see the difference already, and wouldn't need to draw it out. I would even excuse most of his one liners as well, don't need much for the point or b) lack of real posting so far.

Well at the point in which I made the list he had lots of 1-2 liners with little substance, save for 1 post. Most of those posts contained jokes/trolling/random crap. It could be very well be interpreted as a way to keep his name in the active people list without saying anything.

I even asked him for reasons for his vote, and he said "my vote is as serious as it gets". Not like I didn't give him a chance.

@ Jugan, I already explained some reasoning besides voting inactives. But since the thread seems to be kind of derailed, I guess I'll give you more, with the consequence of running some luring: accusing inactive might bring the silent mafia out.

I don't know how many of you guys have played real life Mafia, but basically you pressure people into giving information. Since online they can take all the time they want to create a persona and what not, I figured making the list would bring some info up (excuses for not posting, counter-accusations) or at least fuel some discussion on what to do.

Also someone mentioned, not asking for information, so I figured I would search all the info myself. If you disagree with my analysis you are free to open up all the thread like I did and read all the posts user by user to try to get something.