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NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-29 14:51:46
March 22 2010 06:59 GMT
#1

[image loading]


Notes:


I'm not sure if anyone has noticed, but I've not really been active since the OSL/MSL finals last season. (I've been off since January.) After almost three years of reporting and photographing eSports I've decided to go into (semi) retirement.

It's been a bit of a crazy journey which included times when I had no money at all and yet reported seven days a week and others when I've gone to events covered in band aids and still had an amazing time.

I actually feel terrible about this, but working the events is a lonely, sometimes thankless and incredibly tiring job. I was spending over $40 a week just to cover one event and $80 if it was two. I need to start socializing so I'm sorry to everyone. I loved my work and the chances I've been given, but I need to think about my own life right now.

I will be reporting the odd event (selection nights, finals and Proleague from time to time.) but my days of weekly coverage are ending.

I will also attempt to finish all outstanding projects such as 100 Messages and the impending card for Flash during my Mum's three week stay. (I need a helper!)

It's mainly because of health and money concerns. I still love eSports, but the passion I had to report it constantly has been dulled by finding a wider spectrum of things to do and *finally* making some new friends after losing a large portion of the ones I had before.

Thank you to the following people for all their help, support and the good times we've spent together;

Everyone on Teamliquid.net (Especially Lilsusie, Pholon, Scaramanga, Kerotan, Zuries, Plexa, GoSu, Rekrul, Midian, Artosis, Tasteless, Mani, Chill, June, Sohee, Smix, Konadora, GTR, Peanut and the rest of the staff.)

Hwanni, all the teams and players who I've worked with.

Special thanks to; Sungeon, Jungho, Jaedong, Sangho, Ingyu, Yeongchul (I miss you -_-) Chanwoong, Jaeyoon and Yeongsu. Eugine from Nexon, Bangpok, Magyecain and the other DF league players, the boys from Kart Rider, Fomos, Fifo, Sora from Daily eSports, everyone at Kespa and everyone else who has helped me.

I'll be around so please don't forget me ^_^

****
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
March 22 2010 07:00 GMT
#2
Noooooooooooooooooo =(
KT_Violet
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
March 22 2010 07:03 GMT
#3
thanks for all your hard work
Official Entusman #21
FoieGras
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada270 Posts
March 22 2010 07:05 GMT
#4
=(
Thanks for everything and good luck in the future.
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
March 22 2010 07:06 GMT
#5
i already miss your progamer photoshoots

good luck on whatever you plan on doing in the future
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
March 22 2010 07:07 GMT
#6
how much did u earn for doing this in korea?


i miss ur work too.......
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
March 22 2010 07:09 GMT
#7
On March 22 2010 16:07 justiceknight wrote:
how much did u earn for doing this in korea?


i miss ur work too.......


For eSports, absolutely nothing in over two years. I can't be paid due to my visa so everything was voluntary. I work as a teacher mainly so that was my income to support my work in eSports.

If it's any consolation I will be covering MSL selection night on Thursday evening. I won't be doing OSL though (;_;) because it clashes with a concert I've aleady booked tickets to ages ago.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
March 22 2010 07:09 GMT
#8
I miss you already...

I always thought your work was incredible and under appreciated. Best of luck in the future~
this is my quote.
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
March 22 2010 07:10 GMT
#9
Hope you still enjoy e-sports in your own way. Don't take it that "professional".

I've already start missing you and your awesome photos.
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
March 22 2010 07:13 GMT
#10
wow you did so much for us..thank you ^^
[ReD]NaDa and fnaticMSI.SEn fighting~! ::POlar @ UC Irvine::
win8282
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)454 Posts
March 22 2010 07:14 GMT
#11
On March 22 2010 16:09 NeverGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2010 16:07 justiceknight wrote:
how much did u earn for doing this in korea?


i miss ur work too.......


For eSports, absolutely nothing in over two years. I can't be paid due to my visa so everything was voluntary. I work as a teacher mainly so that was my income to support my work in eSports.

If it's any consolation I will be covering MSL selection night on Thursday evening. I won't be doing OSL though (;_;) because it clashes with a concert I've aleady booked tickets to ages ago.


Damn... As an econ major I can't understand this one little issue...

WHY?

Why did you invest so much when the returns were minimal at best? Sure, you may get a serotnin kick now and then while doing what you love... but that is not sustainable with no $$ (which I imagine you know better than anyone @ TL...). Plus, I know how hard it is to live in Korea, even more so (I imagine, since I'm not a foreigner) for foreigners. Teaching was prob. a bitch too. I've done it once(private tutoring though) and it's a bore. 수고하셨습니다...

Cheers NeverGG... I hope for the best for you.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
March 22 2010 07:15 GMT
#12
Thanks for all you have done for us. You will never be forgotten, that's silly. Even if you're not covering esports, I hope you will still share you wonderful photography. All the best.
FiBsTeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States415 Posts
March 22 2010 07:16 GMT
#13
In my opinion, you have no need to feel terrible about your decision, as you put it. You have done all of us here at TL a fantastic service all this time, driven only by your own motivation! What more could any of us have asked for? Thanks for everything you've done for this community and good luck in all your future endeavors!
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
March 22 2010 07:18 GMT
#14
On March 22 2010 16:14 win8282 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2010 16:09 NeverGG wrote:
On March 22 2010 16:07 justiceknight wrote:
how much did u earn for doing this in korea?


i miss ur work too.......


For eSports, absolutely nothing in over two years. I can't be paid due to my visa so everything was voluntary. I work as a teacher mainly so that was my income to support my work in eSports.

If it's any consolation I will be covering MSL selection night on Thursday evening. I won't be doing OSL though (;_;) because it clashes with a concert I've aleady booked tickets to ages ago.


Damn... As an econ major I can't understand this one little issue...

WHY?

Why did you invest so much when the returns were minimal at best? Sure, you may get a serotnin kick now and then while doing what you love... but that is not sustainable with no $$ (which I imagine you know better than anyone @ TL...). Plus, I know how hard it is to live in Korea, even more so (I imagine, since I'm not a foreigner) for foreigners. Teaching was prob. a bitch too. I've done it once(private tutoring though) and it's a bore. 수고하셨습니다...

Cheers NeverGG... I hope for the best for you.


Because as I explained it's not possible for me to be employed by a Korean company due to my visa. I did it out of passion and having not much else in my life at the time. I'd have liked to have been paid considering eSports has cost me in excess of $4000 not including event transportation, hotels etc. However, it was never the priority for me.

I'm still remaining in Seoul and still teaching until at least January 2011 so we'll see how it goes and I'll try to make it to some of the important events in the Summer, but nothing near as much as I used to cover. I will of course go to finals - since I adore photographing them above everything else Thanks.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
MisteR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands595 Posts
March 22 2010 07:20 GMT
#15
:0

We'll miss you more!
Nal_Ra/Much/Horang2/Flying fighting!~
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
March 22 2010 07:20 GMT
#16
take it easy and have a nice rest nevergg

your work will be missed
HEY MEYT
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
March 22 2010 07:23 GMT
#17
thanks for the pics. good luck in your future endeavors. nest wishes for a bright future.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
March 22 2010 07:24 GMT
#18
I hope you will still post your lovely photographs from time to time, even if it's random pictures inside your room. Always liked your photos. Best of luck in your future endeavors.

Oh yeah and thank you, especially for doing those message to progamer projects.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
March 22 2010 07:26 GMT
#19
Good-bye in a way, NeverGG. I'll it simply because I feel it's the most truthful. I will miss you and your photos, they were an awesome part to be connected to e-sports. Good luck to your future! ^ ^
Jaedong
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
March 22 2010 07:27 GMT
#20
You did this all without even getting paid? You deserve the break, glgl
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
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