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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
March 09 2010 18:30 GMT
#47
Sign me up~

Hope things turn out well this time!
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
March 11 2010 05:00 GMT
#318
I have nothing substantial to say right now; been sick and following the thread but not paying too close attention.

Though, I guess I can point the FOS on Abenson, for the following post:
On March 11 2010 10:47 Abenson wrote:
Reading the posts above, I have come to conclude that the town does indeed need a pro-town mayor/pardoner, whether they be blue or not. Therefore I propose that all the veterans make a few posts explaining their reasoning about how this game will work, and to also give the more inexperienced players (like me) someone to vote for.

Is he just being lazy, or is he mafia trying to get the town locked into a plan? WHO KNOWS?!
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
March 12 2010 02:15 GMT
#407
If we all vote before then, does the day get to end early?
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
March 13 2010 06:47 GMT
#540
Okay, wait.

In this game, why SHOULDN'T a GF more easily be able to fake DT, if rolechecks aren't returned until morning? Wouldn't GF be able to "check" a corpse after everyone else has found out about it? Obviously it would start to seem less of a coincidence as time goes on but the number of scum tactics is far from exhausted - claiming Bus Driver shenanigans, sacrificing their own members, etc.

This is why I don't like the idea of public check lists - it gives the mafia more information to play with and manipulate us with. I'd rather the DTs do an arbitrary check - say, the player that is two spaces above their name on the first page (crossing over to the bottom if they're near the top) OR SOME OTHER ARBITRARY SYSTEM, don't really care. There's such thing as organization without disclosure.

The other thing that I'm sort of surprised about is that the sheer importance of the DT role should make us very, very suspicious of our elected officials, no matter how good/bad their plans are for town. It's inconceivable that at least one of our candidates (myself excluded) isn't scum, and the fact that all three of them are strong players with some pretty shady tactics during the election should beg closer scrutiny in the days to come.
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
March 13 2010 06:50 GMT
#541
On March 13 2010 15:33 Zona wrote:
I would like to call out L, nemY, and Bloodycobbler for voting for d3_crescentia.

Not being allowed to abstain in votes is a huge plus for town members as votes reveal information that can be used to evaluate a player later in the game.

Yet the three of you subvert that by essentially abstaining by voting for someone who has basically not participated in the game so far. Explain yourselves - why can you not commit to helping the town by leaving a paper trail of your opinion?

Easy answer - because they didn't like/trust any of the other candidates. Why would anyone jeopardize their own chances at winning by voting for your own rival, mafia or not? It's not very smart.
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
March 14 2010 02:40 GMT
#627
So Incognito, when are you planning on that roleclaim?
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
March 14 2010 03:23 GMT
#631
BC why don't you post a list of people under the FOS first so we can debate while we sit here? I'd be ever so glad.
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
March 15 2010 00:47 GMT
#711
BC, I was super-active in your game because I didn't have a job then and could thus afford to post like mad. I have a job now, and missing out on that job from being sick for 3 days makes for a lot of makeup work. That aside, I think you make a good point about my activity level. It's not stellar; I'll step it up.

Here's what I think regarding the rest of your list: XeliN is still pretty noob and he doesn't think his thoughts through - though his claim to improvement/election now strikes me as a little too eager. Likely he's still town. I agree with Abenson; he's been playing the same way for the last few games, and I wouldn't mind lynching him. I don't know what to say about ~OpZ~, because whatever he's posted so far just seems like crap.

Quite frankly it's also a bit frustrating to be playing with the mafia vets. All of the discussion in feels pretty exclusive when half of the conversation is dickheadedly dominated by L, BM and citizen calling each other names. Why haven't we considered people like nemY, or even l10f? If you want to nail someone for being an inactive-mafia, there's also Malongo. He says a few lines early game to vote for L, then promptly disappears forever.

I'm going to go vote for Abenson now, unless there's a better target.
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
March 17 2010 04:31 GMT
#1119
Dear town, please don't waste a lynch on me. I don't mind being killed by mafia, but I would be very sad if you wasted your lynches on me.

There's something not right about Xelin right now. What bothers me isn't his inconsistent behavior in this single game... but in that apparently he feels much, much better about his mafia-detection in this game, enough that he would run himself on a platform in the early game. The fact that he defends BM is irrelevant to me - BM plays so ridiculously that he could be anything. It's not enough to make me think, "yes, Xelin is as RED as cherry pie" but obviously if the town decides to lynch him and prove me wrong I won't say a word. I think the case with Iaaan is similar - he wouldn't be trying retarded PM-traps unless he was town. Then again we can lynch him too and see what happens.

I think Foolishness is a much stronger candidate to lynch, given he hasn't really said anything in recent memory and could very well be GF. I'm also wondering about Nemy, who's been relatively silent throughout the game as well. l10f is a pretty bad choice for lynch, because as far as I know ALL of the games he's played in he's stayed on the down-low, even when he was blue/green. The time to root out inactives is now, yes - but we've got to pick the right ones.

Incog, have you explained WHY you switched sidesprang and L? That's the part that bothers me the most at this point, because while your abilities aren't in question your alignment still is. At this point I'm thinking it might even be beneficial for a mafia-aligned Bus to perform some pro-town actions in the beginning.
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
March 17 2010 04:47 GMT
#1130
On March 17 2010 13:34 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2010 13:31 d3_crescentia wrote:
Dear town, please don't waste a lynch on me. I don't mind being killed by mafia, but I would be very sad if you wasted your lynches on me.

There's something not right about Xelin right now. What bothers me isn't his inconsistent behavior in this single game... but in that apparently he feels much, much better about his mafia-detection in this game, enough that he would run himself on a platform in the early game. The fact that he defends BM is irrelevant to me - BM plays so ridiculously that he could be anything. It's not enough to make me think, "yes, Xelin is as RED as cherry pie" but obviously if the town decides to lynch him and prove me wrong I won't say a word. I think the case with Iaaan is similar - he wouldn't be trying retarded PM-traps unless he was town. Then again we can lynch him too and see what happens.

I think Foolishness is a much stronger candidate to lynch, given he hasn't really said anything in recent memory and could very well be GF. I'm also wondering about Nemy, who's been relatively silent throughout the game as well. l10f is a pretty bad choice for lynch, because as far as I know ALL of the games he's played in he's stayed on the down-low, even when he was blue/green. The time to root out inactives is now, yes - but we've got to pick the right ones.

Incog, have you explained WHY you switched sidesprang and L? That's the part that bothers me the most at this point, because while your abilities aren't in question your alignment still is. At this point I'm thinking it might even be beneficial for a mafia-aligned Bus to perform some pro-town actions in the beginning.



We swapped sidesprang and L for a few reasons.

Sidesprang we felt was semi fishy for day 1. He is also a player that if he was green and died we could most likely live without. The bus would save L from any night hits to give him a chance to lay his bombs.

Seriously, that move is self expainatory.

He could still be the mafia bus driver, but with this much pressure on himself, hes more likely to just get offed with every other bus driver.

So somehow you all just magically knew that the other two were blue? That's what bothers me.

I'm surprised the mafia wouldn't run any of their own, unless they KNEW how powerful DTs could be in office, and thus would rather have them in than out, and hope to stack hits on BGs so they can eliminate the offices. But it seems odd so far that they'd waste hits on Vivi and Fulgrim before moving onto BGs. This either suggests to me an inactive/disorganized/noob mafia. In this respect Xelin and Iaaan come to mind, with Xelin being the stronger suspect. I still feel that Iaaan is being very much Iaaan, but if he is mafia bus driver he'll be ineffectual unless he gets his hands on some private information.

Here's where I'm going to trust the counsel of our wise town leaders and vote for BM despite my doubts. I'm of the belief that he's consistently inconsistent with his reasoning, but I don't see any better analysis out there.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
March 17 2010 05:22 GMT
#1137
On March 17 2010 13:54 citi.zen wrote:
Also, the "other DT" who happened to choose sidersprang, then did not go to L, whom he supposedly checked, but instead chose Incognito to reveal himself to.

So connect the dots for me here, citizen - what is it that you're exactly trying to say? That there's still something fishy going on? Or are you going to make an actual accusation and lead with your votes? We don't have a better story to believe, so it just seems like you're kicking shit around without actually saying anything.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
March 18 2010 23:35 GMT
#1291
On March 19 2010 08:28 L wrote:
Anyways, once night falls I'm going to explain what our strategy for upcoming lynches is.

For the last time, I kinda want to know who the vig is, because we need an extra hit for tonight. We're kinda about to head into a section where we carpet bomb people with certain shared characteristics, so we need all available KP, hence the double lynch.

Maybe there is no vig?

Considering we have 2DTs, yourself as Hatter, and (potentially) 2 Bus Drivers, it seems like quite a lot if we throw in another Medic...
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
March 18 2010 23:37 GMT
#1293
For who to advertise a role? Flamewheel91? Or do you mean to claim said role?
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
March 20 2010 03:20 GMT
#1418
Good luck town.

Also I am a man, though I guess I can be a woman...
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